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sparhawk said:You know what,? it makes some logical sense to me. Thanks. This point of view is very interesting. Not sure if I will ever be able to dare switch line results but I think is useful as another perspective. As a corollary, I wonder if these reactive/proactive biases --let's call them "big picture biases"-- are cyclical in any way...
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sparhawk said:BTW, Chris, is that POV anywhere in your site notes?
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lightofreaoson said:From the IC+ perspective super determinism is a dead end, sterile, corrupt and in need of 'correction'
lightofreason said:Thus the determinism IS present in the IC but the error is in not recognising these representations as ideals. What the questions method does is bring in 'micromanagement' by allowing the 'random' consciousness to mediate and so be more proactive in achieving a goal (or allowing one to change goals to some degree!)
Chris.
martin said:... As the Sufis say: every book can be used as a pillow to sleep on.
lightofreason said:if you believe this then there is no need to use the sticks at all. Super determinism 'says' that all is foreseen, even the act of questioning superdeterminism is foreseen ;-) This is REALLY reactive, passive stuff - it means do nothing since all will be done no matter what you try to do to express 'freedom'.
dobro said:... But the freedom (or lack of it) is in the person and how they use the Yi; it isn't in the Yi itself. The Yi's a very flexible mirror.
frank_r said:So I don't see a very big difference, if you use a questionairy or at random. it is both a mirror of your state of mind. They are both working, your method and also the at random method.
frank_r said:The only reason more people think that a questionairy is better is because that has the Mandate of heaven at the moment and at random not. Science only needs a paradigme shift to see that on a certain level at random also works and for some area's even better.
lightofreason said:As in any mirror, It is a closed system - you cannot go outside of yin/yang... Chris.
dobro said:Sure you can. Cuz you're the observer of the snapshot in the mirror. You know there's more to you than that. .. .
dobro said:What's a questionairy? Cuz if it's anything like a questionnaire, I'm not interested. You're not a telemarketer, are you?
frank_r said:Yes, I'm such a huge guy, with a grey beard and wearing socks of wool and sandals.
lightofreason said:The problem with superdeterminism is that it allows for fundamentalism, literal interpretations of texts rather than seeing the figurative. IT reflects a 'random' focus in that the present determines the future, no history considered - a common theme in fundamentalism is on being 'born again' - no history ;-) (OTHER THAN that supplied by Bible/Koran/Tora etc etc etc - all historical documents! --- OR, even better, evangelical states, direct communication with 'god' or some other 'spirit'. "God just told me to kill you...." -- lots of entries in DSM-IV for this!
sparhawk said:Hemmingway in Havana?!?!?
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frank_r said:Do you recognice me?
martin said:What on trigram earth are you talking about? What has this to do with the I Ching? You mix up everything with everything, I have rarely seen so much confusion and you are supposed to be a scientist?!
Get a hold on your Neptune man!
martin said:Lol, hello Aries!
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