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My legal battle to get my daughter away from her abusive father continues. I won't get into details now but it is to be held in consideration that I'm living in a foreign country in the deep south and Incompetence is the keyword when it comes to authorities. My case is like a hot meatball for the authorities involved and they keep on tossing it to the next office stating "This is their responsibility, our hands are tied!"
Finally this morning, due to the fathers continuous episodes of psychological abuse and violation of court sentence I MAY have convinced the Child protection who are supposed to monitor things (and they don't) that it is their duty to at least hear what my daughter has to say about her relationship with her father, i.e. the way he relates to her or treats her during visiting times. As for other proves and testimonials I've got concerning the case they just shrug their shoulders and point to someone else who then points to someone else etc.
Anyways, this morning they told me that they Probably will accept this request of mine and probably a psychologist working there will speak to my daughter and see what's up...

I asked the I Ching whether these sessions will result in something positive, i.e. if they'll ever take place and will they help to move things forward to the right direction, which would obviously mean some kind of limitation on her fathers visiting rights etc.?

Answer was: hex 22.3 changing to 27

I sort of interpret this as nothing concrete is going to happen, no matter the clear outcome. Or maybe this is saying that the sessions will not take place and what they told me this morning was just a chit chat.. only words.
I'm not sure though, any other takes on this reading?
 
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Another question I asked: What do I need to do now in order to achieve full custody and the answer was

53.6 changing to 39

As I can't really find any direct advice in this reading on What to do it seems to me like it's saying "Let go of it, ain't going to happen and move on".... Which is really depressing and I refuse to believe things are really that way. I'd be thankful for any interpretations on this one as well
 

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Dear casstone.....I don't know where you are getting your interpretations from - but I have done a 10 second overview of both your readings and both are them seems exceedingly bright!!!! Both the readings indicate that you will need to persist with your 'battle' for a while. But they both indicate good fortune in the end.

Not only that - both the readings fit in so well with your condition and query. I really don't understand your despair. And the more I read them the more surprised I am at your reaction...I hope you aren't assuming that the Relating Hexagram (the second one) is the "Resulting Hexagram" - as in the final 'result' of the change. Its not - almost never. Its the energy with which you approach the Yi, the way you relate to the query. Is that what is bringing you down??? Then worry not.

And just cool down with your readings - understand what the Yi is saying before doing these repetitive readings. The Yi can and does get pissed off...respect the reading.

I'm just wrapping up things at the office so I won't get into personal interpretive details (maybe soon) - but here are the basic interpretations from an online source I enjoy (eclecticenergies)...they are pretty self explanatory actually.


FIRST READING

22. Beautifying

Line 3:

Beautifully glistening.
Endless persistence brings good fortune.

Something enticingly wonderful. It deserves endless persistence, and things will be going well.


27. Hunger

Hunger.
Persistence brings good fortune.
Examine the hunger spontaneously seeking to fill the mouth.

Being hungry for something, having a desire or need. Things go well by persevering. It is good to examine what one spontaneously seeks to satisfy the desire. What is the actual desire? Does what you try to satisfy your desire with, actually satisfy your desire?


SECOND READING

53. Gradual Development

Line 6:

The geese gradually advance to the plateau.
Their feathers are suitable for use at rituals.
Good fortune.

The development reaches its completion and bears its fruit. Things go well.

39. Trouble

Trouble.
Beneficial is the southwest,
not beneficial is the northeast.
It is beneficial to see a senior person.
Persistence brings good fortune.

There is trouble. It is beneficial to have partners and allies, and avoid people who have different interests. Some advice or help might get one through. Things will go well if one perseveres.
(At the original place and time of the Yijing, allies were in the southwest, territory they wanted to conquer was in the northeast.)
 

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I asked the I Ching whether these sessions will result in something positive ...
Answer was: hex 22.3 changing to 27 .... I sort of interpret this as nothing concrete is going to happen, no matter the clear outcome.

Perhaps it means something will be accomplished that involves forms of some kind, maybe forms that have to be filled out, or papers that need to be completed. The line indicates a need to keep going even though something is very distracting.
 

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Another question I asked: What do I need to do now in order to achieve full custody and the answer was 53.6 changing to 39 ...

I interpret this as saying, "Take it to the highest level." Whatever that means in your situation.
 
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Well.. a little update..
What they told me that day about starting these sessions with a psychologist turned out only to be a chit chat and they did not do anything to follow up with their words. Then, 1-2 months later, for the nth time my ex had been causing me and my daughter problems so I went to this child protection office. Once there I got really mad at them for their inactivity and insisted they would listen to my daughter.

In order to make me shut up and for them to feel at peace with themselves professionally they finally "contented me" with a scheduled visit for my daughter the next day, letting me know that either way I was annoying them and this could be risky for me (!) ..

The visit was purely superficial, they did not ask her about her father in any way. They just had a little general talk with her for a few minutes. Then they told me that she appeared happy and serene and that evidently I was a good mother. They claimed that even though her father heavily denigrates me in front of her, calls me names, telling her I stole his house and everything he had, telling her I steal HER toys and clothes and that I intend to steal her as well and take her to my home country so that she will never be able to see him again, that I want to send him to prison, that I'm a really bad and evil person, denigrates my whole family and friends (naming them name by name and making up very ugly stories about them) etc etc etc. (this is only a fragment) ..they claimed that this didn't really matter as my daughter (just turned 4 yrs old) would not really listen to him or believe him anyway.... and since I am a good mother everything would be OK because I'd explain the truth to her in an adequate manner.
So basically the "outcome" was: We don't care but hey, you keep up the good work, her father's an ******* but you've just got to face it. OK bye!
This was the only visit they did and they won't be doing any others. Quite a hexagram 22. Just for the looks.
 

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Just for the looks . . . My heart goes out to you, Casstone.
 

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That's a nice illustration of 22.3; thanks for updating. (Not nice for you, obviously, but a good example of the line.)

I wonder if 53.6 here could mean something like "take the high road"? Not sure.

Is there any chance that there's really nothing the authorities can do? Speaking ill to your daughter about you - even speaking very ill, telling lies to her and so forth - may not be the sort of thing that can legally get custody and visitation rights removed, if that makes sense. Just speculation; I don't know anything about child custody laws. (Although...an option would certainly be to EXPLAIN that to you :rolleyes:. You know, something like, "We're sorry, but under the law we can't remove a father's visitation rights just because he's a first-class jerk. Here are the circumstances the law allows for: _____.")
 

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I asked the I Ching whether these sessions will result in something positive, i.e. if they'll ever take place and will they help to move things forward to the right direction, which would obviously mean some kind of limitation on her fathers visiting rights etc.?

Answer was: hex 22.3 changing to 27

Another question I asked: What do I need to do now in order to achieve full custody and the answer was

53.6 changing to 39

sounds a pretty tough situation. Can you find some other support networks that might help you ? A friend has a serious problem with courts and a small child and seems she can use external specialists and bring their report to the courts. I know she had to follow many sessions with a child-psychologist so the Psy could make a thorough report There was a lot of talking , but mainly drawing and playing.

39 seems a strong advice to go where helpers are. The coldness of 39 and NW feel like the public sector you have to work with. There is no chance to avoid it, I reckon , but maybe you can find another way resolve this issue. 39 feel like a deadlock , no easy to keep moving in that direction so you maybe can find another route.

Although you didn't got what you expected from this meeting, its helpful to remember what they said; that you do a great job providing a secure base for your child. Don't let your frustration put you off from you effort to "nourish" your family.( your 22.3>27 ?)

best wishes to you and your daughter
 

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