Hexagram 24.1 to 2 about relationship issues

[trielina]

Well,

I've been separated since feb 2017 and I was considering a reunion. So I did ask the iChing this simple question :"will we have a second opportunity for our marriage?"

I received hex 24.1 to 2.

She left and she decided to take her time... according to her words. Our communication has been zero for almost 3 months and many issues arosed during this period. However I've been trying to keep a low profile while she is involved in a strange relationship (friendship or something like this with another woman...you know what I'm talking about). But I know she's still trying to understand.

Given this info, how do you see the iChing answer to my simple question?

Thanks

G

 

[rosada]

No - don't go any further with that thought, it's going no where.

 

[trielina]

Dear Rosada,

Could you please explain me the reasoning behind your analisys? We started again to talk a bit with a low frequency (once every other day).

In any case thanks for your time.
At this point I'm litte bit more interested in learning how to "read" iChing.

Thanks

G

ps

I did repeat the same question just to have a wider perspective:

Hex 1 to 20

And applying a reverse view I did ask: "How will I know when it is time to leave totally this woman?"
Received a Hex 2 to 24

More thoughts?

 

[rosada]

Yes or no questions are always tricky because a hexagram can be interpreted either way so you have to pick the answer that seems to best fit the situation. Hexagram 24.1 Return from a short distance, means one barely leaves the path - maybe they only think about leaving the path - before deciding to return. So then you have to consider what this means in your case. Does this mean the woman returns after a short time or does this mean your thoughts of a second opportunity are off track and you need to return to reality? Because you didn't say "we've been talking every other day" but instead said you've had "zero communication for three months" I saw this as being more than just a brief time out and figured the I Ching was saying, "Thinking of getting back together is going off the path and he needs to not go further down this road." Anyway, that's where I was coming from. I hope things work out well for you two.
Rosada

 

[trielina]

Thank you Rosada,

Will try to figure out your suggestion by actually living it. The relationship, despite being on a superficial level (the wounds were enormous) has restarted a few weeks ago by a sort of investigating approach of talk (just like a "let me see how do i feel" approach) and short phone calls, a few messages every other day. She wants to talk with me in order to understand what happened.
You know the divorce could be in a few months and probably the pression is big (on both sides).

Will try to interpret better everything.

Thanks again

G

 

[rosada]

I think one of the key benefits of studying the I Ching is the fact that in order to understand the answers one has to become more and more level headed, clear and factual. For example, in your original question here you glossed over the fact the two of you were actually talking a bit and this made your IC responses difficult to decipher. In your efforts to be a better interpreter you will probably find yourself instinctively becoming more and more precise in how you frame your questions so your answers will more easily make sense. This shift in thinking - or sharpening in thinking - strengthens a willingness to see things exactly as they are in your daily life too. You'll find yourself becoming a keener observer of what's really going on and less interested in exaggeration or creating drama and particularly more inclined to pause and become calm (2.1) before responding. This can be a great help for a person's life, no matter how well they understand the IC.

I re-read this and it sounds preachy. Sorry, I don't mean to be. I'm just trying to say that for learning interpretation it's not just about knowing a lot of the textbook meanings, it's also about having a certain attitude.

 

[trielina]

Dear Rosada,

I really appreciate your clear approach and, despite being involved personally, I do understand the need for a sharper way of thinking. In a way, having studied for a while psychology and social communication as well as being involved in a profession really linked to understanding people behaviour "on the go", I guess the iChing practice does really help me in understanding the overall dynamics of events and this is amazing.

Sometimes I treat myself as a Guinea Pig in order to verify what's my perception of reality against with the wisdom of iChing.
More often than not, the emotional side can "move" the scale to one side or the other.

What I did understand is that working on the question is really half of the game.
Still, I will try to understand more about my real question and desires.

Thanks again Rosada, a real honour to learn something from you!

Cheers

G

 

[trielina]

Dear Rosada and everybody out there with more experience than I have!

I'm having hard times intepreting an unchanging hexagram 2 out of a simple question:
"how can I discern myth from reality?". Of course the question is about the main relationship I have/had? that pushed me starting this thread.

Given all the info I have, not that much at the moment (with the exception of a "I'm reflecting and please, I don't want to be influenced", while influenced every other minute by an "external force" - words written by my wife) , the point is that hexagram 2 is really difficult for me to figure out correctly.

Discerning the reality from my assumptions is really important and the 2 Hex seems to be telling me to be receptive.

What does it mean in a period of reduced communication?

Thanks everybody

G

 

[rosada]

Myth creates reality.

 

[Wondering]

Hi Trielina and Rosada,

I'm following this thread having had similar such readings with regard to a recent breakup in which I still have to maintain some level of contact for professional reasons- I received 2 UC when asking- how do I maintain health/well being in relating to this person?

Rosada, I'm curious about your most recent response to Triellina- I don't fully understand it- are you suggesting that relying on fantasy perpetuates fantasy? I understand from reading about 2 UC, it sometimes suggests surrendering to things as they are. In this case- would that mean accepting estrangement as the reality, and/or letting go of the fantasy perspective? Thanks for clarifying.

 

[rosada]

I'm seeing hexagram 2 as describing the unlimited field of potential that is activated when we create an intention. (I see hexagram 1 as representing an intention). So I'm seeing the myth as being the intention, the belief, and that then manifests as reality. In other words, reality is our belief made manifest. So to decern the difference between myth and reality we need to examine our core beliefs.

 

[trielina]

Cristal Clear!
Thanks!

G

 

[trielina]

Hello everyone,

Just a curious update: as you may read, I'm in a bit complicated situation (but of course most of us use the iChing to get a hint on personal issues).
We did return communicating in a closer way discussing our situation and other things. The mood is still of tension but I feel as it is more clear.
Yesterday I asked the iChing why she keeps hiding me from the outer world (I'm totally disconnected from her favourite media: social networks) while we daily contact each other for an excuse or the other.

I did receive a 2.1 to 24.

Then I asked "what does she want our relationship to be?" (i used the "what" on purpose")
and received a surprising 1.1.2.6 to 31

What do you think?

Thanks

G

 

[Hepzibah]

I think one of the key benefits of studying the I Ching is the fact that in order to understand the answers one has to become more and more level headed, clear and factual. For example, in your original question here you glossed over the fact the two of you were actually talking a bit and this made your IC responses difficult to decipher. In your efforts to be a better interpreter you will probably find yourself instinctively becoming more and more precise in how you frame your questions so your answers will more easily make sense. This shift in thinking - or sharpening in thinking - strengthens a willingness to see things exactly as they are in your daily life too. You'll find yourself becoming a keener observer of what's really going on and less interested in exaggeration or creating drama and particularly more inclined to pause and become calm (2.1) before responding. This can be a great help for a person's life, no matter how well they understand the IC.I re-read this and it sounds preachy. Sorry, I don't mean to be. I'm just trying to say that for learning interpretation it's not just about knowing a lot of the textbook meanings, it's also about having a certain attitude.

This is very useful for me just starting out with the I Ching