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kadams0918

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Hello friends! I asked the ching this morning if an ex would ever trust me again. I got hexagram 4. I'm not quite sure what to think. Could you guys help me? Thank you.
 
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Someone doesn't know, or is behaving childishly. Since you're the only one here who is privy to the details of your question, only you can answer. If you can't, you might try breaking your question down and presenting in a manner that avoids a yes or no answer. It can be open and broad, such as, what is the state of trust in this relationship? Or, what, if anything, can I do to earn his/her trust again?
 

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we live and learn and build on our lessons.
this ex has learned something about you
that from your perspective may want to be unlearned.
that's harder than learning.
 

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Hey friends. So I took Sooo's advice and further chinged this question. I asked "What do I have to do to have X trust me again." I got 13.5/30. Thoughts anyone?
 

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With your question being more specific, see if these text provides inspirations.

13.5: Through previous stage, subject feels sad because apparent justice is not served. But after anxiety of wars and long period of stalemates, justice shall ultimately prevail without any battle. Mutual, brotherly respect develops between opposing factions, much like brotherhood established through remote bloodlines. Such result is worth being happy about.

30: Enlightening here means to lit-up a path to steer mankind toward righteousness in a non-coercive manner, enabling subjects to move forward without obstacles. As a metaphor, if subject build up a herd of hard-working, obedient cows, symbolizing garnered resources to sustain the enlightenment effort, outcome shall be auspicious.

For some augury method, 14-5 is used for reference: Abundant wealth is secured and sustained. Subject shall exercise humility, honesty, and sincerity in interactions, thus winning respect and prestige from others instead of being defensive to protect the status. The outcome shall be auspicious.

I think these literial translation of original Chinese text articulate your described situation very well, and provided directions for the next move. I have nothing to add.
 
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From an experiential view of 13.5, I've learned to acknowledge it as a possibility providing both are willing to live up to a higher standard and only if both want the same end result. It does not guarantee success nor provide unconditional trust or love just because one receives this line. But it is possible, providing each lives up to their potential, and they mutually desire it.

30 itself is a conditional state, as fire continues to burn and give heat and light only so long as fresh fuel is available to it. Left to itself, fire extinguishes or destroys what is left.
 

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