Hexagram 44

[jesed]

Hi Val
"The commentary you've quoted was, of course, added much later in history, and I don't find it useful to understanding 44"

That's Ok, I just want to add that I'm talking from experience with the Hexagram in real cases, not only from "text analysis".

In my own practice, several times 44 was actually saying "you should meet her/him" and nothing harm the consultant later.


I think in late years are an obssession about "original text". Of course study the "original text" is important. But ignore everything else seems to me like an excess. But, that's jus my idea

Best wishes

 

[cal val]

Hi again Jesed...

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That's Ok, I just want to add that I'm talking from experience with
the Hexagram in real cases, not only from "text analysis".<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>

As am I... and as are most people who post here Jesed. Just a quick memory refresher of what I posted. Since you wrote the above, it would appear that you either missed it or forgot it:

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Again... experience has been my best teacher, and one of my recent experiences with 44... blah blah blah... After that reading on top of some other experiences I've had with 44, I interpret the hexagram statement as saying... yada yada yada.<!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
Additionally Jesed, I'm happy to say I have very strong intuition and have no trouble using it to read the Yi. I was very strongly intuitive when I saw what 44 meant for the woman here at work, and my reading last night was strong intuition (see my post about it this morning):

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/I_Ching_community/messages/48/5103.html?1125425803

I've been open to and paying especially close attention to 44 ever since I came to this forum two and a half years ago. It's one of the two hexagrams I came here enquiring about in my very first post. And the reading I did for the woman here at work recently really pulled it all together for me.

Love,

Val

 

[cal val]

Hiya Bruce...

Rolling dice... gambling... a very good image of 44.

I don't know if they had gambling. I'm going to guess they probably did... ... until I find out I'm going to guess, of course... *grin* Do you suppose they had 12-step programs too? Or maybe they had 44-step programs? What do you think?

Love,

Val

 

[bruce]

lol, maybe a 64 step program!

 

[hilary]

Some 'strong women' of our own culture:<ul>[*]Lady Luck (Fortuna) <LI>the Fates <LI>the Sirens <LI>Eve <LI>Mary <LI>your Muse[/list]

 

[RindaR]

...my future step-daughter! (about whom I drew a 44, just before this thread started!!!)

Rinda

 

[bruce]

Hi Hilary,

Can you say more about the Fates? And if I understand 'your Muse' correctly, that was a 'he', I think. Are you saying a man can represent the strong woman of 44 to a woman, or that 44 is the strong woman to the Muse?

A little confuzzled.

 

[hilary]

Erm, I wasn't trying to say anything hugely specific... (insert blurry smilie here)

If I remember rightly, the Fates are crones, spinning or cutting the threads of individual lives. You were talking earlier about 44 and 'destiny', and how that might disrupt or sabotage daily life. Hm - second thoughts, maybe the Fates themselves don't fit enormously well.

I thought Muses were generally female? (Can't answer for yours, of course.

) But the arrival of inspiration, conceiving a new life, and again the possibility that this might turn everything else upside down - all seems very Muse-like, and very 44-ish also.

44 is the inner core of 33. People retreat into caves to be visited by spirits, or into garrets to be visited by Muses.

 

[bruce]

Thank youuuu.

 

[cal val]

Bruce...

Absolutely... a 64-step program! What do you suppose it's called. I kind of doubt it's called it "Friends of Bill".

Love,

Val

 

[heylise]

I got 44 many times (more than 12 or so) when Yi advised me to work together with a man. So inspiration or whatever it was, can be a woman, even when it comes from a man.

It was a great creative cooperation, but I had to be very careful not to lose myself in it. He was kind of overwhelming, so it was hard to stay on my own feet.

LiSe

 

[cal val]

Hilary...

Muses? Or Sirens? I do love the story of the Sirens and Muses.

Love,

Val

 

[bruce]

I call it "Friends of Bruce".

 

[bruce]

"..it was hard to stay on my own feet."

Having four makes it easier.

 

[ithaki]

I like Bruce's dice. A gamble with fate?
An exciting adventure that can be dangerous. But without danger there is no excitement .. without risk no win.

?

Btw, if it's hard to stay on my own feet (it sometimes is!) I simply sit or lay down.

 

[martin]

Great common sense, Ithaki!
Reminds me of a book I once saw in a shop, "The lazy girls guide to enlightenment" or something like it.

Of course I didn't read it. Too lazy.

 

[micheline]

The lazy man's Guide to Enlightenment is a GREAT booK!!! that was my fated text....i found it in my youngersister's room one day after I was hung over from a party.......and the whole world opened up in that book
It was one of those "student is ready, teacher appears" moments......AH! a 44 moment!

 

[ithaki]

I'm getting that book!

Thank you, Martine, for seeing the wisdom in my words..

 

[cal val]

Well I read Martin's post and went googling for the book he mentioned. I found these two books which I'm seriously contemplating buying:

"The Lazy Girl's Guide To Good Sex"
"The Woman's Guide to Enlightenment Through Shopping"

But I couldn't find the one he recommended. Then I came back to ask for an ISBN number and read Micheline's post. I found it!

Thanks.

Love,

Val