Hexagram 53>52

[yxeli]

I asked the Oracle 'Should I wait for him to approach me if I see him out?'

53: Gradual Progress

I think this is fairly straightforward to understand;

''THE IMAGE

On the mountain, a tree;
The image of DEVELOPMENT.
Thus the superior man bides in dignity and virtue,
In order to improve the mores.''​

Yes, I should definitely wait for him to approach me?

The changing line

Nine in the fifth place means:
The wild goose gradually draws near the summit.
For three years the woman has no child.
In the end nothing can hinder her.
Good fortune.

The summit is a high place. In a high position one easily becomes isolated. One is misjudged by the very person on whom one is dependent – the woman by her husband, the official by his superior. This is the work of deceitful persona who have wormed their way in. The result is that relationships remain sterile, and nothing is accomplished. But in the course of further development, such misunderstandings are cleared away, and reconciliation is achieved after all.​

I fear that this line is describing a problem that i've had with this relationship since the start, I lost my voice around him with nervousness when we were together, and as a result I think he may have leaned too heavily on the advice of outside parties to understand. ( it also made me paranoid and very much dislodged from my centre in social situations)Would you agree with this interpretation of this line for me?

The Hex. changes to 52

KEEPING STILL. Keeping his back still
So that he no longer feels his body.
He goes into his courtyard
And does not see his people.
No blame.

True quiet means keeping still when the time has come to keep still when the time has come to keep still, and going forward when the time has come to go forward. In this way rest and movement are in agreement with the demands of the time, and thus there is light in life.

The hexagram signifies the end and the beginning of all movement. the back is named because in the back are located all the nerve fibers that mediate movement. If the movement of hese spinal merves is brought to a standstill, the ego, with its restlssness, disappears as it werew. When a man has thus become calm, he may turn to the outside world. he no longer sees in it the struggle and tumult of individual beings, and therefore he has that true peace of mind which is needed for understanding the great laws of the universe and for acting in harmony with them. Whoever acts from these deep levels makes no mistakes.​

I'm not sure what exactly the interpretation of this hexagram is, any insight would be a huge gift.

Thank You :bows:

 

[Trojina]

The thing with 53 is....when its says 'gradual progress..' I think most of us don't quite appreciate just how gradual progress is here

If I get 53 I get ready for along wait...well its not just waiting progress does happen...but its gradual

In January the people in the flat below moved out. I guess I prefer people to be there and I asked Yi about how it would go withits re letting etc I got 53. What happens is the flat is being renovated by the landlord......very slowly...its still empty,,,theres progress as in maybe a builder comes in once a week I might add this is not a problem for me at all....its just a very slowly developing thing. ^ months down the line and its nowhere near ready for new tennants.

You ask should you just wait for him to ask you....and yes it seems like this is something thats going develop slowly.....but how slowly can you take.

I don't much understand 53.5 since I never yet saw the thing it promises materialise...I think the time span could be so long in coming about one forgets the question


So its up to you.....you may have to be alot more patient than you think and I have not alot of faith on waiting on the basis of 53.5 since I never saw one instance for myself in my readings or anyone elses readings where they said "oh yes I waited and watched etc and in the end my project came to fruition like 53.5 said". As I say it could be by the time the project came to fruition they may have forgotten what the question ever was

So if I had your reading I think I might prefer to move on to something with a bit more pace


However see what others say...maybe someone has found 53.5 delivers what it promises.

Seems no use relying on book commentaries with this line if it just doesn't play out as it says in anyones actual life.

 

[white owl]

Hi Yxeli,

I like what Trojan says. I am thinking that this hex is talking more about you & your eagerness for this relationship to happen and you need to remain calm if any approaching is to happen from either side. I get nervous too in romantic situations sometimes too, especially when its new. Try to really build yourself up when you know you will be around him or going to talk to him, with positive affirmations. "You are an amazing person Yxeli" breathing also helps..take a deep breath count to 8 then release it slowly counting backwards 8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1.

 

[yxeli]

Trojan, thank you for this, if anything that this relationship has taught me, its patience, It has been on and off for over two years now.

White Owl, Your very right, my inability to remain confident brought things to a standstill. And everytime we met i would hope that it would be different, over and over for 2 years, and yet i still couldn't relax and remain 'still'. It caused me to lose even more self confidence over time because I couldn't change my behaviour. And its the first time i have ever felt so close to anyone. This made me feel like i could never really ever be vulnerable/confident in myself enough to love and be loved.

The changing line seems like an almost impossible task. But there is noone else that i have remotely felt so strongly for, There's noone else who would stick around for two years because he had faith in me, i think he understood my soul,and wished to help me along. But the worst realisation is that i couldn't let him in, which brought my self confidence lower and lower. This is why I have been so sad about this for months and months.


I asked the Yi this morning; ' What is the Greatest ill in this relationship?' because Pocassin seemed to nail my problem on the head in this thread http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=13063

It answered again with 53, with 2 lines changing this time:

Nine in the third place means:
The wild goose gradually draws near the plateau.
The man goes forth and does not return.
The woman carries a child but does not bring it forth.
Misfortune.
It furthers one to fight off robbers.

The high plateau is dry and unsuitable for the wild goose. If it goes there, it has lost its way and gone too far. This is contrary to the law of development.

It is the same in human life. If we do not let things develop quietly but plunge of our own choice too rashly into a struggle, misfortune results. A man jeopardizes his own life, and his family perishes thereby. However, this is not at all necessary; it is only the result of transgressing the law of natural development. If one does not willfully provoke a conflict, but confines himself to vigorously maintaining his own position and to warding off unjustified attacks, all goes well.

and

Nine at the top means:
The wild goose gradually draws near the cloud heights.
Its feathers can be used for the sacred dance.
Good fortune.

Here life comes to its end. A man’s work stands completed. The path rises high toward heaven, like the flight of wild geese when they have left the earth far behind. There they fly, keeping to the order of their flight in strict formation. And if their feathers fall, they can serve as ornaments in the sacred dance pantomimes performed in the temples. Thus the life of a man who has perfected himself is a bright light for the people or earth, who look up to him as an example.

The Hexagram changed to 8

HOLDING TOGETHER brings good fortune.
Inquire of the oracle once again
Whether you possess sublimity, constancy, and perseverance;
Then there is no blame.
Those who are uncertain gradually join.
Whoever comes too late
Meets with misfortune.

What is required is that we unite with others, in order that all may complement and aid one another through holding together. But such holding together calls for a central figure around whom other persons may unite. To become a centre of influence holding people together is a grave matter and fraught with great responsibility. it requires greatness of spirit, consistency, and strength. Therefore let him who wishes to gather others about him ask himself whether he is equal to the undertaking, for anyone attempting the task without a real calling for it only makes confusion worse than if no union at all had taken place.

But when there is a real rallying point, those who at first are hesitant or uncertain gradually come in of their own accord. Late-comers must suffer the consequences, for in holding together the question of the right time is also important. Relationships are formed and firmly established according to definite inner laws. Common experiences strengthen these ties, and he who comes too late to share in these basic experiences must suffer for it if, as a straggler, he finds the door locked.

If a man has recognized the necessity for union and does not feel strong enough to function as the center, it is his duty to become a member of some other organic fellowship.

I've always found Hex. 8 difficult to understand. I think the lines of 53 make sense, but now i don't know what the Yi is trying to say.

Thanks you both for replying
Yx

 

[sooo]

r.e. 8: You are the means to keep it together, once it has gathered together. I'd take 52 as allowing things to settle awhile, and the same with 53. Allow nature to do its thing. There's beauty in what abides in peace and dignity together.