Hexagram 56 > 52 and 1 > 25

[HealingSpirit]

Hi all,

I have been close with a guy for 3 years, we were very good friends and became work partners a while ago. Recently our friendship evolved to be more romantically inclined and when I decided to open my heart and try, things started went downhill for him and put him into a stressful period (he lost his job and almost lost the visa, although now he is already in his new job but the money he lost couldn't be recovered) that eventually affected our relationship. In my eyes, he changed a little bit and started to keep things to himself (he usually shared everything with me).

The peak of it all was I found out that he lied on me over a phone call and I confronted him right there and then at my place. He then left and never talked to me ever since (he usually the first to talk to me whenever we fought and we always talk every day without fail for years). It's been 10 days now, the longest streak of us not talking. And I just found out two days ago that he moved house a while ago without telling me. We had disagreement over this few months ago and he never brought it up again ever since.

So I asked Yi 2 questions:

Why did he not tell me he was moving house? The answer I got was hexagram 56.4 52

"The wanderer rests in a shelter.
He obtains his property and an axe.
My heart is not glad."

I hardly got hexagram 56 before and somehow this line is very apt because it talks about property. My take was because it's temporary and he still feels lost (hexagram 56 - wanderer) and even though he has moved to a bigger place, his heart is not glad (because he lied?). Change to 52 - hence he keeps quiet, for now.

When will he start talking to me again? The answer I got was hexagram 1.2.3 25

Again, I never got hexagram 1 so this is really puzzling. I really can't decipher the meaning and I went through some people's past readings, one of them mentioned that why should you wait and not take action? Is this hexagram really saying that he will never talk to me first if I don't start this time?

Any help and comments on these readings are greatly appreciated.

 

[HealingSpirit]

Anybody can help me with this please? Would really appreciate it...

 

[diamanda]

Hi HealingSpirit,

Why did he not tell me he was moving house? 56.4 > 52
Because he wanted to keep it quiet and private. The line says that he's got both property, and a weapon, and he stands still and alone. Perhaps he lied about more things, because there's no loss of property here.

When will he start talking to me again? 1.2.3 > 25
He will appear at some point again (1.2), but you are very right to worry (1.3). Resulting 25 shows 'no sex'. It can also show disaster. The hidden line is 13.3, which speaks of hiding weapons (!).

Sorry to say this but it's not looking good... Also, I Ching apart, relationships which are meant to flourish do so straight away, not after three years and lies and arguments.

 

[HealingSpirit]

Hello diamanda,

Thank you very much for your reply. May I please check what do you mean by the "weapon" on both readings? How did you see it? And "loss of property"?

Also, resulting 25 as "no sex", how did you decipher that and what are you trying to say with no sex?

Sorry I am still learning appreciate if you could help to elaborate a bit more.

Hi HealingSpirit,

Why did he not tell me he was moving house? 56.4 > 52
Because he wanted to keep it quiet and private. The line says that he's got both property, and a weapon, and he stands still and alone. Perhaps he lied about more things, because there's no loss of property here.

When will he start talking to me again? 1.2.3 > 25
He will appear at some point again (1.2), but you are very right to worry (1.3). Resulting 25 shows 'no sex'. It can also show disaster. The hidden line is 13.3, which speaks of hiding weapons (!).

Sorry to say this but it's not looking good... Also, I Ching apart, relationships which are meant to flourish do so straight away, not after three years and lies and arguments.

 

[my_key]

Hi HealingSpirit
I don't see anything untoward in the response from Yi for you to worry about

Why did he not tell me he was moving house? 56.4 > 52
He did not tell you because he does not tell everyone everything about his life. He is looking for somewhere that will be safe for him and that he can call home, He is not sure that this new house meets his total needs or he may be feeling it is a wrong move so he has remained silent about it.

When will he start talking to me again? 1.2.3 > 25
At the moment he is looking for conversations that are different than to those he normally has with you. So he is keeping away and when he is ready he will initiate the conversation.

...or it may mean nothing like that at all.

Good Luck.

 

[HealingSpirit]

Hello my_key,

Thank you very much for your reading. Do you mind telling me how you reached that conclusion for hexagram 1.2.3 > 25?

Hi HealingSpirit
I don't see anything untoward in the response from Yi for you to worry about

Why did he not tell me he was moving house? 56.4 > 52
He did not tell you because he does not tell everyone everything about his life. He is looking for somewhere that will be safe for him and that he can call home, He is not sure that this new house meets his total needs or he may be feeling it is a wrong move so he has remained silent about it.

When will he start talking to me again? 1.2.3 > 25
At the moment he is looking for conversations that are different than to those he normally has with you. So he is keeping away and when he is ready he will initiate the conversation.

...or it may mean nothing like that at all.

Good Luck.

 

[Lavalamp]

Why did he not tell me he was moving house? 56.4 > 52
52 as context. Keeping still and not seeing anybody. He didn't want to ask you over sounds like.
56. The Wanderer. There was a song "They call me the wanderer."
56.4 The way I understand the progression of hex 56, in line 3 the wanderer loses his servants - or dumps his girlfriend or loses her - because he is insensitive and has greater ambitions and they don't fit into the plan at the moment. He burns his bridges and moves on.
In your 56.4 line which is what happens next, he has regained lost money and has means and temporary shelter but despite that is not satisfied. He has not found the happiness he is looking for yet. He could still lose everything, the position is tenuous.
He is worried about all that. It could go either way for him.

When will he start talking to me again? 1.2.3 > 25
25 as context. Being yourself/being natural is a foundation for personal progress. Pursuing goals you would like, aim of any kind could make you go against your feelings, and not be natural. That would not be advantageous for you.
"When" is a hard question.
1.2 Dragon appearing in the field. When he comes into his own and is recognized for his greatness.
Alternately "When the sun comes up" - the dragon in the field is like the sun that has just come up.
1.3 ".. the superior man active and vigilant all the day, and in the evening still careful and apprehensive."
So - or in the afternoon or the evening!
"Confucius/Legge: This refers to the treading of the proper path over and over again."
Ok - If you want to talk to him, you could just plan to run into him somewhere. But be yourself and don't try to manipulate things.

-LL

 

[diamanda]

May I please check what do you mean by the "weapon" on both readings? How did you see it? And "loss of property"?

Line 56.4 mentions 'axe'.
Line 56.4 says 'he has his property'. So having property means you have not lost your property.
You yourself copy/pasted these in your original post, so not sure why you're asking me.
Hidden line 13.3 mentions 'weapons'.

resulting 25 as "no sex", how did you decipher that and what are you trying to say with no sex?

25 is innocence. From many years' experience, I have consistently seen that in relationship readings 25 means don't expect any sex with this person, it's just not going to happen.

 

[my_key]

Hello my_key,

Thank you very much for your reading. Do you mind telling me how you reached that conclusion for hexagram 1.2.3 > 25?

Yes sure.

At the moment he is looking for conversations that are different than to those he normally has with you. So he is keeping away and when he is ready he will initiate the conversation.

My interpretation is based on something like this -

The hexagram names give 'Initiating' ' Without Falsehood'. The question is directed to understanding the situation from his perspective: "When will he start talking to me again? "

Hex 25 also named as 'Disentangling' so his behaviour and the situation for him is one of stepping back from the old patterns of the conversations that you normally have, or thinking about it now it might be the conflict in your recent conversations. Something has initiated an inner conflict for him as Hex 25 means that 'disaster has come from inside'. He is mulling a lot of things over at the moment (1.2) and not everything is fitting neatly into place for him (1.3).

The guidance for the junzi in Hex 1 says something like 'first you have to make yourself strong' . So when he has things properly figured out for himself - without falsehood - he will initiate talking to you again.

That's about it, really.
As always ...... it may mean nothing like this for you .

 

[my_key]

25 is innocence. From many years' experience, I have consistently seen that in relationship readings 25 means don't expect any sex with this person, it's just not going to happen.

Hi Diamanda
Wilhelm's translation as Innocence for Hex 25 paints a strong picture of truth and that when humans are without guile, then the movement (change) follows the laws of heaven. When the motivations for having sex are aligned with innocence and are bereft of guile then I can see no reason why it can't be part of the relationship, Given time attitudes and motivations on both sides of the relationship might change.

Saying 'it's just not going to happen' based on your experiences of doing readings over many years is like saying just because it works out for me in this way in a reading it's going to work in this way for you too. That's a sweeping statement and could be coming forward from the place of a self fulfilling prophesy.

For me, the conditions in the relationship do not favour sex at the moment however I cannot see from this response that it is 'just not going to happen'. At some point in the future it might or it might not - depends on the level and balance of innocence and guile in the relationship.

 

[HealingSpirit]

What a pleasant surprise, I didn't realise I have few more replies from kind people like you all! Thank you very much and I will digest every answer. Will also update when I have the answer in the future, if ever