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Hexagram 56 - unchanging, regarding marriage?
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56...the travelling stranger ? I wouldn't have thought it the most auspicious casting for accepting a proposal would you ?
But Yi isn't a Chinese cookie fortune telling thingy. To get full answers from others give what you can first, and give some idea of the situation.
But Yi isn't a Chinese cookie fortune telling thingy. To get full answers from others give what you can first, and give some idea of the situation.
The text in Chinese
【旅卦占婚姻】
婚姻运势
十分凶险，婚姻难成，即使成也不幸福。你们整天在一起，互相太了解了，完全没有刚认识时的感觉。结婚以后更是面临着油盐酱醋等现实问题,从恋爱时的虚幻到生活的现实，两者的反差太大。
In English, this means that the marriage will not solidify, nor will it work. You must face the materialistic reality as a couple. This is different than dating.
In general, hex 56 is not a good indication of the future.
神煞：天乙—卯巳 福星—卯 日禄—亥 羊刃—子 驿马—申 桃花—卯 华盖—戌
干支：甲午年 癸酉月 壬午日 癸卯时
旬空：辰巳 戌亥 申酉 辰巳
六神 伏神 离宫：火山旅（六合）
【本 卦】
白虎 ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟己巳火
滕蛇 ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙己未土
勾陈 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财己酉金 应
朱雀 官鬼己亥水 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财丙申金
青龙 ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟丙午火
玄武 父母己卯木 ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙丙辰土 世
The man is line 3 hidden behind another female. Both line 3/4 are two different females. The relationship line is under line 1 (hidden). It is hollow under the house of marriage. For 2014, host line is chen earth which is hollow under the year and time of reading. Money is a problem. This is what you do not have or entitled to.
3 yang line + 3 yin line means triangle relationship. Someone has to leave (line 6) before there are two people left to sort things out.
Hex 56 is equivalent to Knight of wands in Tarot. His thought about you just comes and goes. He loves himself more than anything else and he likes to boost his ego by gaining attention from women. In short, you are just one of the many women he has been dating.
Conclusion: run...do not commit because the relationship (a) will not last; (b) there is another party.
【旅卦占婚姻】
婚姻运势
十分凶险，婚姻难成，即使成也不幸福。你们整天在一起，互相太了解了，完全没有刚认识时的感觉。结婚以后更是面临着油盐酱醋等现实问题,从恋爱时的虚幻到生活的现实，两者的反差太大。
In English, this means that the marriage will not solidify, nor will it work. You must face the materialistic reality as a couple. This is different than dating.
In general, hex 56 is not a good indication of the future.
神煞：天乙—卯巳 福星—卯 日禄—亥 羊刃—子 驿马—申 桃花—卯 华盖—戌
干支：甲午年 癸酉月 壬午日 癸卯时
旬空：辰巳 戌亥 申酉 辰巳
六神 伏神 离宫：火山旅（六合）
【本 卦】
白虎 ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟己巳火
滕蛇 ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙己未土
勾陈 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财己酉金 应
朱雀 官鬼己亥水 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财丙申金
青龙 ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟丙午火
玄武 父母己卯木 ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙丙辰土 世
The man is line 3 hidden behind another female. Both line 3/4 are two different females. The relationship line is under line 1 (hidden). It is hollow under the house of marriage. For 2014, host line is chen earth which is hollow under the year and time of reading. Money is a problem. This is what you do not have or entitled to.
3 yang line + 3 yin line means triangle relationship. Someone has to leave (line 6) before there are two people left to sort things out.
Hex 56 is equivalent to Knight of wands in Tarot. His thought about you just comes and goes. He loves himself more than anything else and he likes to boost his ego by gaining attention from women. In short, you are just one of the many women he has been dating.
Conclusion: run...do not commit because the relationship (a) will not last; (b) there is another party.
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What does hex 56 - unchanging say due to accepting a proposal?
56 unchanging
Are you marrying for money or love, that is, erotic satisfaction. If you want to be hugged and kissed twenty times a day, get this settled now. Do you want to be awakened each morning by your breasts being kissed? Get this settled now. This is no small matter, because many women enter into marriage and for the rest of their lives feel that they are being neglected. Don't let it happen to you. Make your needs knows now. If your partner agrees, marriage is good.
Hexagram 56 is the hexagram of the man who cares for and supports his family (my view). It is auspicious for a marriage that has already occurred. However, if your partner is a workaholic, you and offspring, if any, may expect to be neglected for business.
56 unchanging
Are you marrying for money or love, that is, erotic satisfaction. If you want to be hugged and kissed twenty times a day, get this settled now. Do you want to be awakened each morning by your breasts being kissed? Get this settled now. This is no small matter, because many women enter into marriage and for the rest of their lives feel that they are being neglected. Don't let it happen to you. Make your needs knows now. If your partner agrees, marriage is good.
Hexagram 56 is the hexagram of the man who cares for and supports his family (my view). It is auspicious for a marriage that has already occurred. However, if your partner is a workaholic, you and offspring, if any, may expect to be neglected for business.
Franne,
Hexagram 56 is composed of Fire over Mountain. Mountain is stillness, holding back, and represents your inner state. Fire is clarity, understanding, conscious knowing, and represents your outer state.
From my perspective, this seems to be saying that you are holding back on your decision, waiting for clarity, waiting for some piece of the puzzle to fall into place. So your decision-making "wanders" to and fro, between yes and no, between hopes and fears, waiting to arrive at some lodging place where you have a clear standpoint from which to make a decision.
Until this piece of the puzzle falls into place, perhaps you should remain "wandering between". You shouldn't have questions when it comes to accepting a marriage proposal.
All the Best
Hexagram 56 is composed of Fire over Mountain. Mountain is stillness, holding back, and represents your inner state. Fire is clarity, understanding, conscious knowing, and represents your outer state.
From my perspective, this seems to be saying that you are holding back on your decision, waiting for clarity, waiting for some piece of the puzzle to fall into place. So your decision-making "wanders" to and fro, between yes and no, between hopes and fears, waiting to arrive at some lodging place where you have a clear standpoint from which to make a decision.
Until this piece of the puzzle falls into place, perhaps you should remain "wandering between". You shouldn't have questions when it comes to accepting a marriage proposal.
All the Best
Hello
Thank you all for your answers
They all surprised me for looking sontrue, but I'm kinda confused now
How cone they are so different? I mean the ideas?
Based on long yi's, he is a cheater? But does it mean he is cheating on me or he will ge cheating on me if I marry him? you mean he does not love me?!
And pocossin says it will be about money, yea he is not rich now because he is about to start a new program and a big change, but I don't care, or does it mean he is materialistic or want a marriage for mobey???
Ans hsin I guess you are also right I am waiting for the last piece of the puzzle to come to me!
But can we conclude something here?? I am so confused??????
Thank you all for your answers
They all surprised me for looking sontrue, but I'm kinda confused now
How cone they are so different? I mean the ideas?
Based on long yi's, he is a cheater? But does it mean he is cheating on me or he will ge cheating on me if I marry him?
you mean he does not love me?! And pocossin says it will be about money, yea he is not rich now because he is about to start a new program and a big change, but I don't care, or does it mean he is materialistic or want a marriage for mobey???
Ans hsin I guess you are also right I am waiting for the last piece of the puzzle to come to me!
But can we conclude something here?? I am so confused??????
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Seems like the best thing to do would be to call the guy and talk to him....we don't know.
56uc for me would likely indicate something impermanent. That is how it has shown in my own readings. This is just something passing through. So how can that be good for marriage ?
However I don't believe we can tell you much better than he could himself. What does he say ?
56uc for me would likely indicate something impermanent. That is how it has shown in my own readings. This is just something passing through. So how can that be good for marriage ?
However I don't believe we can tell you much better than he could himself. What does he say ?
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Have you met in person? Or, is this a long-distance internet romance? I am skeptical of long-distance internet romances because I have known them to turn out badly. People seldom get what they have been led to expect.
Thank you trojina
Well he says he would like to marry me and be with me and is waiting for the good time in like several months, I know he has some problems now, he is not lying but about cheating or not loving me for myself, no one would say if you ask them
And
Thank you pocossin
You are right, it is a long distance but he says he will come to my city as soon as he can, I just want to know if I coyld trust him for real feelings...
Well he says he would like to marry me and be with me and is waiting for the good time in like several months, I know he has some problems now, he is not lying but about cheating or not loving me for myself, no one would say if you ask them
And
Thank you pocossin
You are right, it is a long distance but he says he will come to my city as soon as he can, I just want to know if I coyld trust him for real feelings...
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Hi Franne,
What Exactly did you ask?
(You said "the same question" but what was the question?)
(And was it Exactly the same when you asked a second time?)
What Exactly did you ask?
(You said "the same question" but what was the question?)
(And was it Exactly the same when you asked a second time?)
According to Rosemary Burr (Lover's Iching)
The relationship can be fun and frivolous. Don't expect commitment. Enjoy what is an offer and then move on. It is easy to draw onto the wrong people through a moment of lust or loneliness.
According to Ma's Iching
It is an unstable marriage if there is one.
There are problems with residency.
There will be separation afterwards.
It is a very unstable relationship, with one or both parties changing their mind.
Friends and relatives are not supportive.
It is easy to give up.
One party may move on to find someone else.
>99% chance that the whole thing is just a lust. There is no long term outcome.
In addition to my last post to this thread, you take control of your own destiny and decide what to do. As a result, you cannot blame anyone if the whole event turns sour at the end. You have been warned.
The relationship can be fun and frivolous. Don't expect commitment. Enjoy what is an offer and then move on. It is easy to draw onto the wrong people through a moment of lust or loneliness.
According to Ma's Iching
It is an unstable marriage if there is one.
There are problems with residency.
There will be separation afterwards.
It is a very unstable relationship, with one or both parties changing their mind.
Friends and relatives are not supportive.
It is easy to give up.
One party may move on to find someone else.
>99% chance that the whole thing is just a lust. There is no long term outcome.
In addition to my last post to this thread, you take control of your own destiny and decide what to do. As a result, you cannot blame anyone if the whole event turns sour at the end. You have been warned.
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Should I marry him? 1 unchanging
could it be that it's telling you that you're being too yang, too impulsive?
56 usually comes out with me when I'm dealing with people from other countries so I bet he's from another country
could it be that it's telling you that you're being too yang, too impulsive?
56 usually comes out with me when I'm dealing with people from other countries so I bet he's from another country
I could be very off-base here, but I see 56 a bit differently than a lot of people. I'm something of a gypsy and I rarely stay anywhere long enough to truly set down roots. When you live like a traveler, you take everything important with you. There aren't a lot of things that retain enough importance to hold onto because your physical space is limited and moving a lot of things takes a lot of effort - enough to bog you down. So, you get creative. The only thing you have, really, is your own strength when you relocate somewhere new. You don't know anyone or where anything is. You may not even have a form of income. So, you set off immediately to Do Stuff in creative ways.
Now, how does this apply to whether or not you can trust/should marry this man? Are you comfortable with having a life full of challenges that you create for yourself? Relying on your own strength (or the strength of your relationship). 56s image says "Above the mountain is fire: Travelling. A noble one is clear and thoughtful in administrating punishments and doesn't draw out legal proceedings." If you're going to act, then act. Do so thoughtfully, but be clear and swift. 1s image says "The heavens move ceaselessly. A noble one in his own strength does not pause." Again, it's a call to quick decision and action. You have to decide whether or not you have the strength, thoughtfulness, and clarity to live the life you want alongside this man.
Now, how does this apply to whether or not you can trust/should marry this man? Are you comfortable with having a life full of challenges that you create for yourself? Relying on your own strength (or the strength of your relationship). 56s image says "Above the mountain is fire: Travelling. A noble one is clear and thoughtful in administrating punishments and doesn't draw out legal proceedings." If you're going to act, then act. Do so thoughtfully, but be clear and swift. 1s image says "The heavens move ceaselessly. A noble one in his own strength does not pause." Again, it's a call to quick decision and action. You have to decide whether or not you have the strength, thoughtfulness, and clarity to live the life you want alongside this man.
Hello suivis
Thank you for your opinion. To be honest I know it's gonna be a challenge due to re locating and money and everything, so I guess you are kinda true, but my only concern here is loyalty and cheating, since it used to be a long-term relationship and sometimes I was suspicious if I am not the only one in his life. But niw after this, it looks he has made his decision so I was wondering if I could trust him! I just asked this because I wanted to know if he is going to be loyal afterwards!
Due to what long yi said I was not sure
Thank you for your opinion. To be honest I know it's gonna be a challenge due to re locating and money and everything, so I guess you are kinda true, but my only concern here is loyalty and cheating, since it used to be a long-term relationship and sometimes I was suspicious if I am not the only one in his life. But niw after this, it looks he has made his decision so I was wondering if I could trust him! I just asked this because I wanted to know if he is going to be loyal afterwards!
Due to what long yi said I was not sure
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There is no way on earth you are ever going to know if he is going to cheat on you. One thing I do know is if someone here says a reading tells you he will cheat then that is not true !
We don't know ! You cannot get the answer you want here. No one here actually has the faintest idea of whether you can trust him or not.
If it were my answer I'd wonder if I were using this as a kind of temporary solution. The traveller would not be looking to make commitments to anyone...It says clearly in 56 the traveller avoids prolonging lawsuits...he doesn't want to get enmeshed he needs to move on.
Is it you that needs to move on ? Are you seeing him as a way of a difficult situation ? You know marrying him to get away from your country or something ?
Anyway I advise you give up asking if you can trust him as no one here has the faintest idea.
We don't know ! You cannot get the answer you want here. No one here actually has the faintest idea of whether you can trust him or not.
If it were my answer I'd wonder if I were using this as a kind of temporary solution. The traveller would not be looking to make commitments to anyone...It says clearly in 56 the traveller avoids prolonging lawsuits...he doesn't want to get enmeshed he needs to move on.
Is it you that needs to move on ? Are you seeing him as a way of a difficult situation ? You know marrying him to get away from your country or something ?
Anyway I advise you give up asking if you can trust him as no one here has the faintest idea.