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Hexagram 59.1.5.6 >19 Provide rescue? Stay away? Or be more approachable?

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Cast the Iching in regards to a relationship situation. Long story short, had a brief relationship with a man last year. He was immature and "mercurial" (he wanted to be together, then he didn't, then he did). I loved him but it was so complicated and exhausting I just let it go and moved on. I still think about him alot but I didn't feel it was worth putting more energy into this. He had reached out a few times in the past few months but I again kept my distance as I wasn't too eager to get with someone who is not certain about his feelings.

Yesterday I happen to see him out and about and he looked absolutely miserable. Broke my heart to see him so down. I asked Iching, "How should I proceed with him at this point?" and got 59.1.5.6 > 19.

I get the impression from 59, lines 1 and 5 that I should "rescue" him or make some kind of effort to "end dispersion" between us but then line 6, mentions "staying away." Since the changing hexagram is 19 "Approach" is the Iching maybe telling me to be "rescue him/end dispersion" by being more approachable (but at the same time protecting myself from danger/heartache)?

Would appreciate any feedback on this reading. Am I on the right track in my thinking?

Thanks,

inky86
 

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Hi Inky86
"How should I proceed with him at this point?" and got 59.1.5.6 > 19.

Hex 59 means breaking through: Hex 19 means someone reaches out.

Rescuing is a very energy consuming activity and and one which can easily become a sticky mess for the person who steps in un-invited. It's not clear if the person you saw made any contact with you and asked for your help, either in the initial contacts or when you met him in the street. If he did ask then he is reaching out for help and that is not necessarily rescuing, If he didn't ask then you are the one who is reaching out: you are reaching out towards these thoughts of rescue. I wonder, in the latter case, if you can put your finger on what it is you are really reaching out for?

So in this wider context of reaching out, you should proceed with a view to making a breakthrough. At the root of the matter rests within you a long held yearning, and you need to find the strength to scatter this (59.1). A part of you wants to strongly follow the yearning. However difficult it may be, gather your forces around you to correct the situation. Try something different to what you habitually do in these sort of situations (59.5). Acting from this new place of strength will dispel the conflict within you in, keeping you safe now (59.6) and showing you, for the future, that a new you is approaching (19) .

Of course this is my interpretation and is different to the one you made. I'm not saying mine is right but offer it as food for thought.

Good Luck
 
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Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post. I saw him a few days ago at a distance and he did not see me. The last few times we did see each other face to face (months ago) he was very flirty and trying to engage with me, but I was fed up with his back and forth and kind of blew him off. I wasn't mean or rude to him, I just wasn't particularly friendly or responsive either. Which is why I was wondering if the Iching is saying, "hey the ball is in your court, if you want to fix things, you're going to have to be the one to approach him."

Which honestly at this point I don't know that I really want to. I like him alot but at the same time my rational self is telling me "if he really wanted to be with you he would..." so why pursue this further. I guess seeing him down in the dumps incited some kind of reaction in me to want to "save him."

But thanks for the feedback, I do appreciate it.
 

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I just asked now "how will this situation proceed between us at this point?" and got 60.5 > 19. Again 19 is coming up. I need to maybe focus and meditate on the message of 19.
 

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I think that compassion is very all right with hexagram 59. Your feeling is overflowing! A dispersion situation is not a rescue situation, though. You probably can't rescue, and even though your heart is full, there is, with 59.6 an advice to keep yourself away from danger and untie. The relating hexagram 19 shows a situation of nearing. So this might be a chance to give way, forgive, clear things …
All the best, Mandarine
 

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Interesting, 59, then 60. There are certain limits in nearing - and this is auspicious …
 

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I just asked now "how will this situation proceed between us at this point?" and got 60.5 > 19. Again 19 is coming up. I need to maybe focus and meditate on the message of 19.
Yes, pay attention to any hexagram which pops up a second time!

I always use DeKorne’s website and meditate on changing lines commentary:
60 Line-5
Legge:
Line five, dynamic, shows its subject sweetly and acceptably enacting his regulations. There will be good fortune. The onward progress with them will afford ground for admiration.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Sweet limitation brings good fortune. Going brings esteem.

Blofeld: Voluntary restraint -- good fortune! Advancing now wins praise. [Presumably this means that we have rightly exercised restraint and that the time has now come for us to continue our advance.]

Liu: Sweet limitation. Good fortune. Undertakings bring honor.

Ritsema/Karcher: Sweet Articulating significant. Going possesses honor.

Shaughnessy: Sweet moderation; auspicious; in going there will be elevation.

Cleary (1): Contented discipline is good: If you go on, there will be exaltation.

Cleary (2): Contented regulation is auspicious. To go on will result in exaltation.

Wu: There is optimal regulation. Auspicious. Wherever he goes, he will succeed.

 

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Thank you all for taking the time to respond. I'm trying really hard with this situation to practice non-action and let things come and go as they will. I feel in the past I have sabotaged relationships and situations by rushing to try to save and fix things and ultimately this just causes more pain and suffering. Which is why initially I just let this relationship go. But I find it interesting that no matter how much I try go out of my way to avoid this person, situations keep arising where he keeps popping back into my life.

That being said, if we are supposed to reunite, it will happen on its own without me forcing contact. I'm hoping that hexagram 19 means that eventually there is going to be a situation where approach will happen effortlessly. I think the advice of 60.5 is most relevant, to continue being reserved with him. Not with malice. I will continue to be cordial and pleasant with him but I don't think I will go out of my way to try and recover what has dispersed. He ended the relationship initially, he can approach me and discuss reconciliation if he sees fit.

I'll keep you guys posted on any updates! But thank you all very much for the insight. It definitely helped me gain some clarity and think things through more critically.
 

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