His opinion of me and Yi's answer 48.6 to 57.

[MeltingPot247]

Hi all,I asked 'his opinion of me' as I've been seeing someone for 8 months but we don't talk about our thoughts or feelings of one another too often. Compliments here and there, we cook for each other etc, I've gone to him more often as I only recently got a place of my own.48.6 changing to 57, for me his opinion of me is that I am deep and sincere, and that I subtly approach things in life, including him...What do others think?Thank you

 

[kttuan]

This hex is not creative: he feel hesitate to express that he has nothing to do with you.

 

[MeltingPot247]

Thank you Kttuan... it makes sense that he is hesitant to express, due to his background - but I'm not sure about the wanting 'nothing to do' with me part.I was asking for his opinion of me, which is maybe not a good question but I couldn't figure what else to ask. My interpretation above was because I was thinking of myself in the context of 48.6 to 57 - 48.6 suggestsletting the source flow uninhibitedly. Don't cover it, don't hold back. Which is probably what I am doing at the moment but looking at 57 Gentle penetration again, I might not be acting or behaving as subtly as I think- and he might want to spend a little less time with me. He is somewhat introverted, but friendly and was upfront with me at the start about what he is about, what he wants and I am comfortable with how we are, I asked this question now because I'm going to try hold off contacting him for a while. All the time we've spent together so far, has always been good but I have a new house, new job and other friends/ family that contribute to my happiness as well anyway.

 

[marybluesky]

Hexagram 48: the Well.
According to Liu: "The superior man inspires people to work diligently, and advises them to help each other."
You inspire him. The Well contains the notion of nourishment. You have a psychologically positive effect on him. He likes you two doing things together.
Line 6: "The well is clean, without a cover. There is confidence that water can be drawn. Great good fortune."
There is trust that can increase by "uncovering" more of yourself.Then he will see you as his confidant and reliable companion.Hexagram 57: Penetration. "Willing submissiveness" and "penetrating influence".
"Small success. It is beneficial to go somewhere. It is beneficial to see a great man."
Opening up, you can increase your influence over him slow by slow. You can also get help from others.

You have the means necessary to win his trust and devotion. Work on it.

 

[moss elk]

His opinion of me and Yi's answer 48.6 to 57.

He sees you as a great resource, a wellspring.

 

[Trojina]

Hi all,I asked 'his opinion of me' as I've been seeing someone for 8 months but we don't talk about our thoughts or feelings of one another too often. Compliments here and there, we cook for each other etc, I've gone to him more often as I only recently got a place of my own.48.6 changing to 57, for me his opinion of me is that I am deep and sincere, and that I subtly approach things in life, including him...What do others think?Thank you

This sticky might help with further relationship questions


https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/fri...42-Blog-post-Advice-for-relationship-readings

 

[MeltingPot247]

RE: Willing submissiveness and penetrating influence - I should probably add this is my first and I believe the only D/S relationship I've had and will have. I've been single my whole life, celibate most of that time - and so that has probably contributed to the wellness he gets from me, but I have been open and vulnerable with him about my feelings or insecurities over that time - and basically he knows I'm exploring and learning from/with him. All the questions of mine people see on this forum actually stemmed from my one thought that I should hold back a little for the time being and so I asked "What will happen if I stop initiating conversation with him" - knowing im the back of my mind, he likes to lead . The answer I received was 26.4.6 > 34 great love inner wisdom > the infinite power of love.26.4 Restraint builds power26.6 Accept the noble destiny

 

[MeltingPot247]

Hi Trojina,I definitely like the advice not to ask multiple questions as a newbie, which I have done in the past 24 hours but I wont do so in future. I'm a very curious person and avid reader, so I went overboard this first time around - and missed some of the stickies.Thank you.

 

[sylvia1ching]

199The reference I use is The I Ching or Book of Change The Richard Wilhelm Translation
Bollinger Series XIX
Third Edition, 1997
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QUESTION; What is his opinion of you after 8 months of relationship?

HEX48: THE WELL
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[SUP]You arethe source. The well is the foundation upon a city is built. It is abundant isits resource and it is a basic need for all of life.

THEJUDGEMENT
THEWELL. The town may be changed,
But thewell cannot be changed.
Itneither decreases nor increases.
They come and go and draw from the well.
If onegets down almost to the water
And therope does not go all the way,
Or thejug breaks, it brings fortune.

The wellwithin itself is consistent, dependable, and is loyal to its location. What isbuilt around the well will change but the shape and position of the well doesnot. It is the source of the most basic needs. It is the foundation upon whichlife thrives.

Thefoundation of mankind be it social or political requires that one must be ableto reach down to the very foundation of life. Water has no form and takes itsshape in whatever container it is held.

In orderfor him to truly appreciate you, he must be willing to reach down to the depthsof you to what makes you ... you. If he is only reaching to the surface of thewater or does not reach far enough he has not yet understood the depth of you.The assumption what is at the surface is all there is but there is source tothe water that comes from the bedrock.

Human nature are basic characteristics andattributes that all human beings share. NON-UNIQUE "Humans differ in theirdisposition and education" (Wilhelm, 1997, pp 186) UNIQUE. Disposition is used to describe how an individual or group of peopleview life.
Education is unique tothe individual.

The divine nature of man islike the well it is abundant and inexhaustible. It is up to man to seek out thedivine in his nature. It is at the moment of choice/free will that man candecide to how to act or respond. He can embrace the lower consciousness that isfounded in the ego and the ego's needs OR he can aspire to his higherconsciousness and be drawn to the divine within and approach enlightenment/God. In seeking out the divine in all men he must be able to "penetratethe real roots of humanity"[/SUP]

(Wilhelm, 1997, pp 186) ​

[SUP]How does this apply to your question? For him to truly know what tothink of you he must be willing to educate himself about you. Humannature that is defined by disposition, traits that are common to all men isfound at the surface. To truly know you is, is to know the divine with inyou. The first one can be easily observed at the surface from your basicresponses. The second takes a willingness to learn the depths of you that takesmore work. The divine is an education that requires a initiative throughconversation and observation.

THE IMAGE
Water over wood: The image of THE WELL.
Thus the superior man encourages the people at
their work,
And exhorts them to help one another.

KAN-water over SUN-wood. Like a plant with all of its parts pulling from the ground water and nutrients that benefit the entire plant. Human society works in the same way. We all source the basic needs that sustain us and shelter us. It is important that man works together to develop and support human society.
Working together such that all humans can benefit from one another.

In relationship it is the same way, it is important that each person supports and encourages the other to sustain and benefit the relationship. It takes the both of you to know what each of you think of one another. It is not just up to him to know you it also takes you teaching him and encouraging to know you. Just as it is up to you know him. In this way this initiative is equally beneficial and equally proactive in the progress of the relationship.

Line 6:
Six at the top means:
One draws from the well
Without hindrance.
It is dependable.
Supreme good fortune

This is known and not assumed. The well is for everyone regardless who comes. The water is abundant and is dependable. The source that feeds the well is a natural spring that never dries up. “Therefore it is a great blessing to the whole land.”[/SUP]

(Wilhelm, 1997, pp 188)​

[SUP]

Just like the well, you are inexhaustible in your “inner wealth”[/SUP]

(Wilhelm, 1997, pp 188)​

[SUP]. The divine nature within you is apparent, without limits, blessed and is available for those who seek out to know you. Those who want to know you will draw from this beautiful essence of you and it you will see it in how they respond to you. Actions speak than louder words. It is often in not what is being said the most powerful words are spoken.

If you want to know his opinion of you, you listen to what he says and what he does not say. The way you can recognize his understanding of who you are and what he takes from you will be in the subtlety of his actions and the way he treats you. He will reflect back authenticity, sincerity, powerful, beautiful, giving, loving if you source that. If you do not see this or experience this then either he cannot and will not see you OR it is something that is holding you back from sharing these parts of you.

HEX57:THE GENTLE/THE PENETRATING
[/SUP][SUP]SUN-gentle/penetratingwind/wood. Two light lines above a single dark line. Like the earth the dark principle is “rigidand immoveable” [/SUP]

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[SUP](Wilhelm, 1997, pp.220) but the two light lines gently penetrate the rigidity and dissolvethe dark principle.[/SUP]
[SUP]WOW.You are powerful. Your gentle yetpenetrating personality can break up any darkness that is before you…be it inhim or others.

THE JUDGEMENT
THEG ENTLE. Success through what is small.
It furthers one to have somewhere to go.
It furthers one to see the great man.

The penetrating effect of the wind makes small and inconspicuous effects. Like winderosion on the mountains, the wind will gently breakdown the rock andeventually wear down of the height of the mountains.
Thiseffect that an individual has of slowly penetrating ones heart and thoughts. Itwins him over without force and the effect is enduring.

THE IMAGE
Windsfollowing one upon the other:
The image of THE GENTLY PENETRATING.
Thus the superior man
Spreads his commands abroad
Andcarries out his undertakings.

Theconsistent yet gentle and penetrating is effective because it is driven by yourauthenticity, sincerity,
Kindness.Thiseffect is not overwhelming and it is subtle and easy to receive. You arepowerful because you reach the heart through your divine nature. What you show to the world to him is receivedbecause it is not abrupt and it is consistent.
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[MeltingPot247]

Wow Sylvia1Ching - I had to go away and come back after reading this the first time. This part specifically stood out:"If you want to know his opinion of you, you listen to what he says and what he does not say. The way you can recognize his understanding of who you are and what he takes from you will be in the subtlety of his actions and the way he treats you. He will reflect back authenticity, sincerity, powerful, beautiful, giving, loving if you source that. If you do not see this or experience this then either he cannot and will not see you OR it is something that is holding you back from sharing these parts of you."He has been tender and affectionate with me every time that we are together. The one minor disagreement we had, resulted in him physically reaching out for me, the very next morning. I also remember one opinion he shared was that he has not met someone who is as free-spirited as me, even as he noted that I seem free even while taking care of my responsibilities/commitments i.e family/study/work. I believe this freedom has come from tapping into a divine source of unconditional love.I guess the YI and all of you that have posted, have encouraged and confirmed the unspoken for me. I will continue to be a true friend to him, and also open up more over time, as he is a true friend not someone that would hurt me, like I would have thought in the past with others. I do recall feeling very safe with him the first time we met, as he had a strong, protective vibe.

 

[sylvia1ching]

MeltingPot247

My experience of you as I wrote the interpretation was a gentle calm beautiful spirit. You come across that way to me. If you were not being the person you are the interpretation would be different even with the same lines and hexagrams.

You are very welcome. Good things are coming your way. Be like the wind gentle and penetrating the right way.

Sylvia

 

[Freedda]

MeltingPot247My experience of you as I wrote the interpretation .... Sylvia

Sylvia, in your last entry, can I assume some is drawn from text or a translation you were quoting and some is your own words? If so, is there any way to edit it so we know when you're quoting and when it's your own words? I'd be interested to know. Thanks.

 

[sylvia1ching]

I will correct by citing the reference and putting quotes. Thank you for bring my attention. Plagiarism is not cool. Thank you again. The interpretation was long I failed to go back and check.

 

[Freedda]

Plagiarism is not cool.

Plagiarism is not my issue. What I'm trying to know in your different posts is which are your words and which are from a translation. I can always go online or to my library for a translation; but that doesn't let me know what you're saying here.

 

[sylvia1ching]

Right now my library is in storage so the book I am using is and the one quote now

The I Ching or Book of Changes
The Richard Wilhelm Translation 1997

I have used different ones in the past
I started with Legge and Wilhelm, I have included Sharnessay (sp)

Laws of Change: I Ching and the Philosophy of Life, Balkin

Does this help

 

[sylvia1ching]

Everything on this forum i have been quoting

The I Ching or Book of Changes
The Richard Wilhelm Translation 1997

Right now that is the only one I have in my presence.

I pull from many sources and most of them you can find on this website
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[marybluesky]

MeltingPot247 reading your latest posts, I assume that your relationship is a respectful, trusting one all in all - as I perceived when I read your first post about it-, whether it's turning to be long-term or not. It has quality, even if the time you spend with each-other is limited. I totally understand the warm vibe a guy can have in the first encounter, which makes the woman feel safe, & him stand out. It is a good happening in your life.

 

[MeltingPot247]

Hi Marybluesky,You are so right and spot on about how I feel about the whole situation. Even in my other thread where I asked 'Is he still interested in me', I already knew that it was a 'sexual' interest more than anything in the first place and wanted to know if 'that' was still there, and somehow others seemed to think I was expecting some other kind of interest too. Putting that response of interest with this one of his opinion of me however, does provide an overall picture of what I have seen and experienced with him during our time together, mutual respect and high value. Quality is more important to me than quantity. So, thank you - I think you get what I'm saying