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Hi friends,

Well just now after reading Long Yi's interpretation of one of my previous posting concerning my empty love life. I did another reading and asked if I will be able to get into a relationship these next few months and got:

56.2 > 50!

This look too good to be true....
If you look at my most recent reading: http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/frie...e-Wanderer-who-goes-nowhere-Hex-56-unchanging
I asked about where my life is takeing me and I got hex 56 with unchanging lines!

I feel hopeful but a little scared too. Any interpretation would be appreciated here.
 
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起卦时间:2013年04月13日08时31分
起卦农历:癸巳年三月初四日辰时
神煞:天乙—子申 福星—未 日禄—午 羊刃—巳 驿马—亥 桃花—午 华盖—丑
干支:癸巳年 丙辰月 己酉日 戊辰时
旬空:午未  子丑  寅卯  戌亥

六神  伏神    离宫:火山旅(六合)     离宫:火风鼎
         【本 卦】           【变 卦】
勾陈       ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟己巳火     ▅▅▅▅▅ 兄弟己巳火  
朱雀       ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙己未土     ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙己未土 应
青龙       ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财己酉金 应   ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财己酉金  
玄武 官鬼己亥水 ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财丙申金     ▅▅▅▅▅ 妻财辛酉金  
白虎       ▅▅ ▅▅ 兄弟丙午火  ×→ ▅▅▅▅▅ 官鬼辛亥水 世
滕蛇 父母己卯木 ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙丙辰土 世   ▅▅ ▅▅ 子孙辛丑土  

If we evaluate the big picture, the key points are:
1. The female is not defined. This means that this female is not a person with an name or nickname assigned to it.
2. This situation is abstract and Iching technique is not the proper tool to deal with an abstract question.

3. Hexagram 56 has 3 yang lines (3,4,6) and 3 yin lines (1,2,5). The problem is that 3 yang/3 yin line means a triangle relationship. This is a situation that you do not want.
4. Hexagram 56 has two females at line 3 and 4. They can be the same female or two different females.
5. Line 3 female shen metal has a man behind her (officer line hai water). This means she is attached in a relationship (steady one).

6. Line 4 female is the one you considered as a prime candidate, her soul chen earth (line 1 host line) in your heart and in your mind (line 4) “you “ metal are coupled together. However, this is how you feel about this female and not how she feels.
7. Line 3 and 4 are the door position. This means nothing real for the female.

8. Line 6 si fire (a third party man) is strong in his position, line 6 produces line 5 female soul or a child (depends on situation) wei earth then line 4 you metal. I do not think the female is available.
9. Line 6 third party si fire (man or woman) is in conflict with the man (man hai water) hidden behind the line 3 female. These two persons conflict is present. The third party may be a rival or even an in-law type older parents.

10. Who is who? Long Yi does not know because this is an abstract question.

Now , a quick overview of the bigger picture
Female: you metal: 56.3 50.3, 50.4; and shen metal 56.4
A third party (assume man or even an older female):
56.2 wu fire and 56.6 si fire; 50.6 si fire.
A child line (soul of a female or a child);
56.1 chen earth, 56.5 wei earth
50.1 chou earth, 50.5 wei earth

Please note that line 4-6 does not change in both hexagram 56 and 50. External conditions remain unchange.
Let’s look at the internal conditions (line 1 to 3)

Line 1 in 56.1 is child line chen earth with a relationship line (parents line mao wood) hidden behind the line 1. 56.1 hidden relationship set 56.4 female “you” metal in motion. Sine line 1 is the host line, this event gets you thinking about a relationship.

56.2 is the change line third party (probably man wu fire) changes into officer hai water. Thi s hidden man appeared into the open to show an interest.

56.2 you hai metal is in conflict with the man or female in line 6 (50.6) si fire. In between these three line, two females line and one child line (meaning money, or child or her soul).

Since hexagram 50 refers to a triangle relationship, usually one winner and one loser. The picture may show one to two female and one man plus one more man or female.

This abstract question is quite complex. Therefore, please first identify a clear target as a potential girl friend before you consult the Iching. In my experience, hexagram 50 is triangle relationship with no clear winner because the heart is torn between the two.

This third party does not have to be a love rival. It can be a mother or someone who interferes with what you plan to do or the relationship.

The upper trigram is li fire and the lower trigram is sun wood. Wood produces fire. This implies the means attempt to produce the desired results. This is not a good situation.

There is no marriage or relationship in sight soon. If anything happens, the situation will cost you dearly. It is better to wait for a better time. 50.2 is movement star for the man in line 2. This implies an unstable situation if you involve yourself in a relationship at this time.

It is important that you find a clear possible candidate with an associated name before you consult the oracle. Otherwise, the situation is too complex to decode.
 

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Thank Long Yi,

I kind of knew it was too good to be true. Though I feel a bit dissapointed I think it is better to withdraw. The last thing I need to get involved in some kind of love triangle with someone who doesn't really love me anyways. There is already enough fear and sadness in my life.
Thanks.
 

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You want my opinion ? No ? Oh Well I'll give it anyway.....this totally fatalistic attittude to answers as you discussed in another thread is going nowhere ...it totally defeats the object of consulting Yi in the first place which is to actually make wiser choices not to sit back and accept someone's word on what the future will be !


Unless you engage and think and work with your answer you may as well not consult the Oracle. I don't think 56.2 means you can't have a relationship. As for the love triangle, is there one ?

If there is one then fine but if one doesn't exist there is nothing in 56.2 to refer to that.
 

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56.2 shows one finding a good helper a good friend on the journey and i have certainly known this 'friend' to also be a lover, a partner. For how long who knows but it is a journey.

You have to make a journey, you have to go on it to get somewhere. You can't sit about sadly asking other people what your fate is but do nothing to discover and embrace your own fate.
 

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Thanks Trojan,

To be honest, I am not in a good state of mind and haven’t been for a long time. Long yi’s readings are always very revealing. Also I didn't intend for only Long Yi to comment on my reading. I am actually thanking him for the last 2 readings.

No there is love triangle and there is no one in particular. I just asked if I could be in a relationship in the next several months. I myself read the hexes and changing line and saw nothing but good but then again, I’m not very good at it. To me it means that I am currently wandering and on this journey I will meet a friend who will become very devoted and loyal to me and together we will go somewhere great. Long yi's reading seemed very much to contradict this.

And yeah, my confidence in myself and my faith in the universe is pretty much totally gone.
 
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If there is no love triangle then I see nothing at all in this reading that predicts a love triangle. 56.2 is a nice reading to get....it's shelter, warmth, friendship, a break. So cheer up. You are making your future in every single moment in every thought that you have. Yes there is likley an element of destiny and karma for us all and yet at each moment we also create the next within that framework.
 

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56.2 from The lovers' iching textbook:
You have the opportunity to create a relationship with someone with rather different from your past choices.
As long as you are sincere, you will have no regrets. Don't let friends or family interfere with your love life.

As stated, triangle does not always have to be a love rival, it can be someone else, example an older woman or other parties.

Ma's Iching on Hexgram 50
You can find a person with common interest, but a very strong rival will appear, resulting in jealousy between the two parties. There will be problems with the written communication.

long Yi's opinion:
As stated, one winner and one loser in the final picture. One must be prepared and figured out how to win.

Hexagram 50 composes of the upper trigram li fire (4-6) and the lower trigram sun wood (1-3).

The original text in the Plum Blossom Iching stated the following:
占婚姻以體為主,用為婚姻。體生用,婚難成,或因婚有失。
This means it is quite difficult to reach a deal for marriage or the marriage will result in loss.
Plum Blossom Iching is a parallel method to predict outcome than the six line method.

Hexagram 50 is equivalent to ten of swords in Tarot.
There is nothing more daunting than its imagery; 10 swords pierce into the back of a man who lies face down. When it comes to matters of the heart, the Ten of Swords can indicate the end of a relationship or a betrayal.

Since you are in the healing and recovery stage, it is quite unlikely you are ready to trust the next person easily. However, you are ready to move on. Nothing will happen soon (same as Blossom Iching analysis).

Conclusion: It takes time to find the right person, and also to overcome the obstacles, rivals and family members or friends who object to the new partnership.

If you predict a freezing rain storm, you leave the house and drive in the middle of storm, you may find it difficult. However, if you wait until the road is salted and the temperature rises, the trip is perfectly safe.

Iching does not tell you directly your time of departure, but it tells you the odds at the present stage and immediate future only.

Line 3 and 4 are "you metal" for the female. "You metal" is the month of September 4 - October 3 2013. In Chinese Astrology, a person washes away the bad luck or good luck from previous year by August 8. Nothing will happen before August 8. You can be your 56.2 until such time. From Iching learners who only know the line text meaning, they are correct.

Iching is the book of change. Time is associated with it. Six line method allows one to guess the time of event happening, but not the outcome at this time. In your case, you have no target defined for the female. The other readers are right. Status quo for now with 56.2 on your own (next few months because it is now April).

It is wise to believe in something positive. One must learn to ask the word "when" when events unfold, regardless whether it is positive or negative and design a strategy to create a positive outcome if possible. This is the basis of book of change.
 
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Hi friends,

Well just now after reading Long Yi's interpretation of one of my previous posting concerning my empty love life. I did another reading and asked if I will be able to get into a relationship these next few months and got:

56.2 > 50!

This look too good to be true....

How can love can comes to you when you have no space for it ? This is what you have said in your other thread about what entering in a relationship means for you. If love will bring so much sorrow and pain in your life , do you want it ? if love is only that , why someone would wish to be in love ?

" Its too good to be true... " , in your words.

i think i can understand those two conflicting feelings: avoid love/ need love. Its totally normal to feel that way. You asked a "when" questions and my impression is that Yi gives the conditions that "when" can be fulfilled. May Yi says take care of your inn, find a place to relax and rest , do some cooking (50)
 

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I did another reading and asked if I will be able to get into a relationship these next few months and got:

56.2 > 50!

My impression is that the first and most important love relationship to foster occurs within yourself. Love doesn't always come to you unless you prepare to receive it; as anemos said: to make room for it. Preparation and refinement occur within the cauldron. Then, if that someone is attracted to you, they will appreciate you for what's really inside. It's not easy to live with a wanderer, but if you find such a companion who will, you need to let them inside; and consider your companion's cauldron as well.
 

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Friends,

I want to thank all of you for your words of wisdom and concern. Last weekend was really rough. I had a nervous break down went into a negative spiral and stayed in my room all day Sunday and just drank till late night. Monday I was having anxiety attaqcks all day till the end of work. Ever since I got suspended from that place I have been dreading coming in every morning. Today is better since I am less stressed and just feeling melancholy. I can live with melancholy.


Yeah so I am the wanderer right now...okay...whatever the hell that means.
Yeah it would be nice to meet someone. Even just as light hearted friends. It would be nice to meet someone who can treat me just like how I want to treat them. I just want to be able to feel relaxed around someone and be able to let my guard down.
Actually, long yi's original reading kind of stressed me out a lot. the situation he described trigured a lot of horrible memories and sensations from the past. There was so much hatred, games, disrespect, meaness and betrayal during that time then and it got into me big time. I just want peace and tranquility.

Thank you.
 

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