How can I stop being an obsessive person?

[Sennnn]

17.2.5>54
For me it means, stop paying attention to other people or external stupid things you don't have 2) and more to yourself and divine? (5)

 

[my_key]

If this had been my reading I'd have pretty much interpreted as you had.
My words would be: Step away from the things over which you have little or no control. Feed the white wolf more than the dark wolf. Follow the path that makes your heart sing.

Good Luck

 

[mandarin_23]

Hi Sennnn, interesting that both the hexagram relate to following. In a very different way, though ... but with 17, there is following, or even pursuing, maybe what a suitor does, and with 54, there is a young marrying girl's obedience.

Actually, both hexagrams show the same trigram, thunder and the lake. In 17, there is thunder below, a strong initiative which has to be awaited and taken, and the lake above - and in 54, it is the other way round.

Maybe good to think about what this means in your life. Maybe 17 is also - stalking. Pursuing. Taking initiative. Maybe good to learn how to await developments to come. Read the signs and listen.

It will be a matter of confidence, in the end? 17.2 can be immaturity. Maybe looking after children, maybe nurturing some fancies. And 17.5 - to be true and confident in excellence. You are good!

All the best, Mandarine

 

[Sennnn]

Hi Sennnn, interesting that both the hexagram relate to following. In a very different way, though ... but with 17, there is following, or even pursuing, maybe what a suitor does, and with 54, there is a young marrying girl's obedience.

Actually, both hexagrams show the same trigram, thunder and the lake. In 17, there is thunder below, a strong initiative which has to be awaited and taken, and the lake above - and in 54, it is the other way round.

Maybe good to think about what this means in your life. Maybe 17 is also - stalking. Pursuing. Taking initiative. Maybe good to learn how to await developments to come. Read the signs and listen.

It will be a matter of confidence, in the end? 17.2 can be immaturity. Maybe looking after children, maybe nurturing some fancies. And 17.5 - to be true and confident in excellence. You are good!

All the best, Mandarine

Do you mean that 17 is following in an active way and 54 in a passive way?
I get 17 a lot but I still don't get the whole meaning.
Maybe 17.2 could be about my ex because he's younger than me but I don't know. I think you are right about the lack of confidence maybe I have to start following myself

 

[rosada]

I got these lines when I asked how to make progress teaching myself to play the piano. I interpreted the lines as saying that I tended to continually practice what I knew well enough already - what I needed todo was to stretch myself and attempt more advanced pieces, maybe even find a teacher to follow. As a response to how you can stop being obsessive I see these lines as saying something similar.
17.2 You keep fussing with projects
17.5 Even when they're good enough already..
54. Are you avoiding moving up to a higher position or is this your way of taking baby steps?

Altogether it seems to say you're stuck in a habit and need to step up to a higher vision of what you could be doing with your time.

 

[Sennnn]

I got these lines when I asked how to make progress teaching myself to play the piano. I interpreted the lines as saying that I tended to continually practice what I knew well enough already - what I needed todo was to stretch myself and attempt more advanced pieces, maybe even find a teacher to follow. As a response to how you can stop being obsessive I see these lines as saying something similar.
17.2 You keep fussing with projects
17.5 Even when they're good enough already..
54. Are you avoiding moving up to a higher position or is this your way of taking baby steps?

Altogether it seems to say you're stuck in a habit and need to step up to a higher vision of what you could be doing with your time.

I think you are SO right because I tend to repeat the same things over and over (for example on guitar) and It's very difficult to me to create new habits. Maybe I need to do another things and I will stop being bored and obsessed thanks!

 

[mandarin_23]

About 17 and 54 ... I think that 17 is a man (the oldest son, thunder) following a girl (the youngest daughter, the lake), more active and purposeful, and 54 is a marrying girl following her new husband in their new home. So in 17, there is some activity. Interesting what rosada writes ... that it might be good to follow higher standarts! I'll think about this as well!

 

[Sennnn]

About 17 and 54 ... I think that 17 is a man (the oldest son, thunder) following a girl (the youngest daughter, the lake), more active and purposeful, and 54 is a marrying girl following her new husband in their new home. So in 17, there is some activity. Interesting what rosada writes ... that it might be good to follow higher standarts! I'll think about this as well!

I didn't have a clue that 17 was a guy following a girl! Iching is so complex . I feel like I don't know anything but I've been using it for one year!

 

[diamanda]

Actually in 17 the male asks / encourages / causes the female to follow him, so that means he takes some sort of initiative, in a direct or indirect manner. That's when 17 is unchanging. When 17 is changing, the lines describe what kind of action the female actually takes. In 17.2, the woman chooses to follow an immature man - and your next line, 17.5, shows that you then attach great importance to that immature man, as if he was something excellent. This results in 54, second best, a love triangle, a lesser position. So to answer your question, perhaps you're obsessing because you attach too great importance where it's not deserved?

 

[mandarin_23]

Interesting! So this 17 hexagram person really makes a choice - and 17.2.5 really tells you to choose well. There is some wooing. In 54 the connection has already be made, the girl is in a weaker position.

Interesting idea that a mesaillance - a partner or job or a habit which is not up to your level - might make you feel inferior yourself, which might be the essence of being obsessive.

 

[Sennnn]

This is so interesting because when I asked about my ex feelings about me I got 17 ... Also he's younger than me and makes me feel low self esteem but I didn't ask about it. I asked in general, could it be that this has an impact on my whole life?
I just asked why I get so attached and obsessed and I got 24.4.5>17wtf

 

[Sennnn]

What should I do to stop being in this inferior position?
9.1>57
Return to your path = how is this wrong?

Mmm my interpretation could be that I would tame the "big ones" by being myself and penetrating???

 

[mandarin_23]

Taming power of the small ... there is a huge range of meaning. A soft, gentle approach is indicated with 57. And maybe just to keep things simple - stay with yourself, with everyday life, to seed and grow and harvest, and turn back to what you like doing and what you are good at.

 

[rosada]

As Mandarin says, to get over him and stop obsessing, just stay with yourself and your everyday life.

Consider that 9.1 follows 8.6 the line about the time for Union being over. So it seems to be saying that when a relationship is over, when what ever business you had with another person is done, it's time to 9.1 return to being your self-sufficient self.
I got this line one time when asking about continuing a friendship with someone I had met at a week long retreat. We had recognized each other as kindred spirits and had a great fun together. We spoke of trying to meet again but she lives thousands of miles away and so nothing more came of our meeting except an occasional joke exchanged on Facebook. But that's okay, and it was kinda reassuring to get 9.1, to know that the meeting had been a grand 8.Union but that it's time was passed and I didn't need to stress trying to keep in contact. Better to 9.1 Return to my regular life and maybe have a 57. small message from time to time.

 

[Sennnn]

As Mandarin says, to get over him and stop obsessing, just stay with yourself and your everyday life.

Consider that 9.1 follows 8.6 the line about the time for Union being over. So it seems to be saying that when a relationship is over, when what ever business you had with another person is done, it's time to 9.1 return to being your self-sufficient self.
I got this line one time when asking about continuing a friendship with someone I had met at a week long retreat. We had recognized each other as kindred spirits and had a great fun together. We spoke of trying to meet again but she lives thousands of miles away and so nothing more came of our meeting except an occasional joke exchanged on Facebook. But that's okay, and it was kinda reassuring to get 9.1, to know that the meeting had been a grand 8.Union but that it's time was passed and I didn't need to stress trying to keep in contact. Better to 9.1 Return to my regular life and maybe have a 57. small message from time to time.

Sad but true! Thank you!