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I read the other threads that resulted in the same hexagrams, but I'm having a tad of difficulty applying the meaning to my question.

THis is regarding the same young man as my other recent thread, in which I had not heard from him and finally emailed, which got me an instant reply. He picked me up and took me to this sporting range where we practiced (took a lesson) for two hours, had lunch and then he drove me to my next appointment. All in all it was a fantastic Saturday.

However I still don't understand my place in his life. Are we just friends, is he interested, is there a possibility of something more developing -- *how does he see me*? I am now thinking this question should be *how should I behave towards him gonig forward* but I will ask that next.

So the hex 56 lines 5 and 6, i read a great deal about those. I get that the wanderer/traveller has maybe finally come home, "Maybe the TRAVELLER finally came back to his own home or maybe he found his true home in strange lands. Maybe geting home is always at the end of the long juorney."

Notes:
56.5 changes to hex 33 Retreat (or Flight in the sense of an airplane taking off). This would imply that the Wanderer manages to get his mind clear and his affairs in order so that he takes control of his situation (tactical retreat rather than becoming chaotic, dropping one's shield and sword and running away) and is able to change his aimless rambling into a search for a suitable situation.

56.5 - The pheasant is a symbol of yang energy , all the sunny things and actions that are going on in the outside world. Having been unsettled in the shelter and wanting to move on, we have a bit of an about turn. The traveller shoots them down with his first arrow (the direction pointer). So he gains potential sunny nourishment (the pheasant) from the shooting down of outward activity - Losing the wanderlust, we settle inwardly for what we have.

This is perhaps a sort of acceptance of what is around us for what it is and because he has made this huge step forward in understanding the wanderer gets a big pat on the back, a massive reward and recognition from those on high. "Thus he finds friends who praise and recommend him, and in the end the prince accepts him and confers an office on him." In some ways a new acceptance of and by the wanderer that wandering isn't actually wandering.

= The 5th line the line of the king is changing from yin into yang. Fire is changing into heaven, from rationality to creativity. Here we see what the deeper grounds of somebody are. Because it is the sign of the wanderer we see his/hers positive and his/hers negatives sides.

as Lise is writing; Just do the best you can and your soul will feel satisfaction and ease.

And Nigel Richmond: He takes his own feeling about his reality as only a small part of it. He has hit upon something that will nourish him well, the idea is like a seed that leads him on to many things.


*what is that seed*?


LINE SIX:
The bird's nest burns up. The wanderer laughs at first, Then he must needs lament and weep.Through carelessness he loses his cow. Misfortune. In the end he hears nothing.

The strong line at the top, whose movement moreover tends upward, loses its foundations. Thus all gaiety leads only to losses, because the line neglects all too much the duties of a wanderer, and even injury does not make it wiser.

56.6 is simply taking support for granted, not valuing it and hence losing it...
It may be to do with burning bridges but sometimes burning bridges feels a very good thing to do. I have the feeling Lise refers to this angle of it.

Maybe its that the burning of bridges feels good at the time, hence at first the traveller laughs, its only later he realises "you don't know what you got till its gone". Maybe a warning here is not to be too hasty in burning bridges however gratifying or expedient it seems at the time.

= The positive side of hex 56.6 is that it is a Yang line in the 6th place of transition to the Next--whatever its problems it is actively expressing and exhausting itself bringing about the end of this current timing and the dawning of that which develops from here on.


So he is a traveller in a foreign land (this is a fact -- he's not American, and I'm in AMerica now). and he maybe is realizing what he wants now? (??)
 

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I am still not clear how he sees me and I want to get to the bottom of that reading. But I just asked my related question, "How shall I behave towards him?" I ask this because I want to let the Man be a Man and not be chasing him across the room like a desperate schoolgirl. "how i behave" dictates frequency of contact and tone and level of interest I give off etc etc.

How shall I behave towards him?
58.1.5>40. Hmm.

58 generally: Progress and attainment. Advantageous to be firm and correct.

line 1: the pleasure of inward harmony. There will be good fortune.

line 5: The subject trusting in one who would injure him. The situation is perilous.

Significance of 40: advantage will be found in the southwest. If no further operations be called for, there will be good fortune in coming back to the old conditions. If some operations be called for, there will be good fortune in the early conducting of them.
The superior man ... forgives errors, and deals gently with crimes.



I gather from this the following:

"be firm/correct. Be innerly harmonious. But judge against peril. Forgive procedural errors."

The last part I get from 40 -- that i should forgive him any procedural errors heretofore and be open. OKAY but this part, "If some operations be called for, there will be good fortune in the early conducting of them" throws me off. Because I cannot know if there should be early actions until after I wait and the "early time" has passed, and he has taken no action (there has been no action taken) and by then it's usually no longer "early." So what does this mean? In concrete terms? If i have not heard from him, do i email again and take initiative/ Or is that venturing towards peril?

Is there any possibility that 40 refers to someone else in the "love rectangle" that this situation is comprised of? ie not him but the wife of his friend who is trying to prevent our...developing friendship? Thats teh first thing that came to mind when i saw it, at least.
 

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What if i do not contact him this week unless/until I hear from him?
48.2>52.
BIZARRE! It's telling me not to take correctness to the utmost. This goes against courting dating rules i typically follow and FEELS like i'm chasing him. I dont get it.

However 52 contradicts line 2, saying "The superior man does not go in his thoughts beyond the duties of the position in which he is." If i dont let my thoughts go forward, then i will not contact him if he doesnt contact me... So which is it: line 2 or 52??
 

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56.5.6 etc

In reading these I'm not convinced that the initial 56 is indeed to be read thru the eyes of the other person. Might I suggest that 56.5 describes where you are in this situation: traveling thru some new territory in this relationship?

Line 5 is the ruling line, so place your attention there. "Shooting a pheasant, one arrow is lost. Ultimately one is lauded and given a mandate." This confirms the general sense that you are entering new territory here, making a name for yourself. You have to give up something in order to get something bigger.

The resultant 31 looks very positive, variously named "attraction," "wooing," and "sensing." Generally, moving toward some mutual accord.

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Second reading 58.1.5 Joy > 40 Deliverance

In the context of a generally cheerful hex, that changing 5th suggests to me that the problem is that you're thinking way too much about this -- the "inferior" is your own ego plotting and planning. Disengage, dissolve the self, stop structuring responses. Once you get past all the plotting and planning you will be "delivered."

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Third reading-- dare I suggest you are wasting your gifts? -- shooting fish in a well, your jug is broken... Ask another time and the dreaded 4.4 may be in your future, if it hasn't appeared already....
 

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Hi Elias,
Thank you for the replies and input. That makes sense that the first reading is about me and not him...certainly this is a new relationship in my life and new territory. It also doesnt fit the pattern of anyone else I"ve ever gotten to know before.

For the second reading: yes I'm thinking alot, but it's because I'm so fearful of making a wrong move, saying the wrong thing! I have to try not to chase so it's important how I react -and hence a need to udnerstand wehre he is in this process so i dont push or pull or overreact or underreact...etc... Bc it is important to me.

For the last reading: do you mean wasting my gifts on this man? Or in doing the I Ching readings? I just looked again at that line: "This represents a man who possesses good qualities that he makes no use of. He associates with inferiors and gradually deteriorates until he can no longer accomplish anything. "
What are those good qualities? (??) Who are the inferiors?? This man? I truly hope not. I can't see that....

The well: solid, stable, foundation. People gather. (Each meeting with this Guy has been w/his two friends, a couple). The well leaking (line 2) -- strength/energy being dispersed. But to what or for what? is this saying the relationship is a waste of my time? Or questioning it is? Or is this a commentary not on the relationship but on my life in general (?)

(4.4 hasn't appeared yet and I won't be asking again if it may come!)
 
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Shooting fish and broken jugs

Sorry-- should have been a bit clearer. It seems to me that the IC is telling you that you're pushing this issue too hard, "going to the well" too often for wisdom you already possess. In this circumstance I don't see it as a negative assessment about the object of your inquiry.

I am excruciatingly familiar with the issue you're working thru. A helpful little mantra "Everything is where it needs to be; every one is where they need to be."

And remember that "green apples have no value." When the time is right the relationship will progress. Not before.
 

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Thanks Elias. That makes sense (thank God it is not a commentary on the subject of the inquiry! Phew!). I LOVE that green apple metaphor. I"m going to put a picture of a green apple (hm or maybe a really red one) on my wall! ;)
 

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Yr welcome. "Green apples" comes from Carol Anthony, who I recommend so much that people probably think I'm getting a kickback.

Hope a big red apple is in your future ;->
 

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