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How should I proceed to have a fulfilling, serious relationship? 64.5.6 >47

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Hello friends!

I asked "How should I proceed to have a fulfilling, serious relationship?" and got 64.5.6 >47
I asked the same question seven weeks ago and got Hex 2 unchanging. I don't think it's too soon to repeat it;).
My take: Hex 64 indicates "Not yet across"= not being in such a relationship yet: that's the current situation. Now how should I proceed?

Line 5: "Continuing -- good fortune. No remorse. The glory of the superior man wins the confidence of the people. Good fortune."
I should keep on my current path of life- there's nothing wrong with that; meet people, let them know me, and win their trust by being open and sincere myself...

Line 6: "He drinks wine with confidence. No blame. When his head gets wet, he loses confidence."
And I should be confident of my ability to relate with people; however:
"When one wets his head while drinking wine, it is because he knows no moderation"
I have to learn the moderation- admittedly, it's a hard task for me. I tend to be really passionate when attracted to/in love with someone, and lose the sight of what is really happening. I really get "drunk"- that's how I've felt after reading my messages to previous love interests after calming down:D. Also:
" He does not know how to submit to the proper regulations."
I should keep my rebellious, wild side in check. I'm really bad at playing by the social rules:duh:.

But what does mean the relative hexagram- 47? " The lake with no water symbolizesOppression.The superior man would give up his life to achieve his purpose." Am I going through a time of drought? Do I need to sacrifice many things in order to achieve my purpose- the serious relationship? Or have I better to maintain morale until the hard time is over, then to act?
"Oppression. Success. Persistence. Good fortune for the great man. No blame. If one indicates with words only, no one will believe." I should to be correct and respect my values despite the external hardship. And should rely on the actions, not mere words.
I am somehow puzzled by the meaning of Hex 47.

I'll appreciate your comments.
 

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Hmm... Is it possible that in some past experience you vowed never to fall in love again? 64.6 Describes toasts and good wishes at some sort of Farewell Celebration but then getting drunk and saying what one REALLY thinks - this suggests a scenario where you might have graciously exited a failed partnership but then under your breath muttered "Jeez, what a jerk. I don't ever want to fall in love again!!" and now you are under this "spell"?
 
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How should I proceed to have a fulfilling, serious relationship?
64.5.6 > 47


Your understanding is clear, you know what the situation is (64.5).
But when you get drunk (literally or metaphorically) then you lose your head (64.6).
The result is barrenness and oppression.

So when you know that a situation is a no-go, don't get carried away because it won't work.

The hidden line is 6.6. It speaks of someone who stubbornly fights for something they don't own, and they end up losing anyway. So if you would like a fulfilling, serious relationship, go by your first understanding of the situation. Does the guy look like a fulfilling and serious guy? If not, at first assessment, then no matter how much you get 'drunk', or persist, it just won't happen. Trust your first instincts.
 

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Hmm... Is it possible that in some past experience you vowed never to fall in love again?
I never vowed not to fall in love, but not to enter any serious relationship- which is the topic of my post. Today I know that the casual relationships don't satisfy me. They lack something- loyalty maybe? However the memory of serious relationships I experienced, that ended fast, make me feel suffocated. I wrote about it in another thread. They seemed "unnatural": neurotic, controlling, oppressing (and my relative hexagram is Oppression!! Wow! I hadn't thought about it this way!), as if there was a predetermined scenario with a role I had to play strictly, not something developed during the natural course of love.
Now, given my wish- a fulfilling serious relationship- & the I Ching answer, what's the advice? How should I break this spell?
 

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Hi again!
Today I asked the I Ching "Please give me insight into... who my suitable partner is". The answer: 49.2.5 > 34
Line 2:
'Your own day, so make radical change
And set out to bring order: good fortune, no mistake.'

Someone who isn't afraid of the radical change (love? commitment? letting oneself being shaped by the relationship instead of resisting/controlling it? or ... breaking the patterns? challenging the status quo? Anyway, someone courageous) and is able to bring order (has leadership abilities?);


Line 5:
'Great person transforms as a tiger.
Even before the augury, there is truth and confidence.'



A brave person who doesn't hide his real self, so is easy to trust. It crossed my mind that the tiger may indicate someone who's born in Chinese tiger year. Could it be relevant??

And, a man of "Great Vigour" (Hex 34).
What do you think?
 

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Dear Mary,
You asked me in a private email if I could say more about my reference to 64.6 and spells and how you might break the spell.
Perhaps I was being overly dramatic to use the word "spell". I meant that 64.6 and the image of a person become drunk and foolish and possibly saying things they didn't mean made me wonder if when your last relationship ended if you had made some exaggerated proclamation either aloud or to yourself that you were going to avoid all relationships in the future, and that this intense gut level intention has somehow programed you like a hypnotic suggestion or "spell" to indeed be without partnership. If you have had some sort of strong belief like "relationships never work out for me" such ideas could be oppressing you and thus to be able to now create a good friendship the I Ching may be advising you to look at these unquestioned beliefs and overturn them. The easiest way I know of to negate a negative suggestion is to look at it very consciously, bring it out into the light of day and if you decide it has no merit then intentionally do things that prove it is untrue - for example, if you broke off with your last partner swearing all men are liars and cheats, now remind yourself of the times he actually was a decent guy and bring to mind the men you know who also are decent folks, not liars or cheats at all. So you can often "break a spell" by simply not going along with it. (If you are dealing with something deeper and more intentional - like if you feel someone has actually cursed you - then google "spells" for more elaborate rituals for breaking them.) Perhaps getting hex.2 initially in answer to your question was advising you that you need to clear your mind, become a Receptive, neural open field, so you did not recreate old patterns in new relationships.
As to what the I Ching may be saying as an insight to a suitable partner, 49.1.5 -34 sounds like you should watch for someone who takes responsibility for themselves, a stable, self-made man. Or perhaps it is saying that a suitable partner for you is one that matches these qualities in you - and thus it would be wise for you to develop your inner 49.1.5 -34 (that is, transform yourself to be the person you want to be. irregardless of a partner) in order to draw such a soulmate to you.
Best wishes, Rosada
 

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Hmm... Is it possible that in some past experience you vowed never to fall in love again? 64.6 Describes toasts and good wishes at some sort of Farewell Celebration but then getting drunk and saying what one REALLY thinks - this suggests a scenario where you might have graciously exited a failed partnership but then under your breath muttered "Jeez, what a jerk. I don't ever want to fall in love again!!" and now you are under this "spell"?
Wow... this just immediately reminds me of a scene in the Fellowship of the Ring where Bilbo has his farewell speech at his birthday.


Toasts and good wishes at his birthday which is actually his farewell. But the Shire doesn't know that. Then he puts on the One Ring and falls under it's spell.

😱
 

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Oh you reminded me that it never happened.

64> 47 should mean that you'll never cross this river; you remain confined forever.
 

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Hi Mary,

you mean you never got into a serious relationship? Remain confined forever... I hope I am getting this wrong? What do you mean exactly?

PS I posted the reference at 3 am because I woke up from a troubled sleep and asked a question (not love related) to the I Ching with the same outcome. When I read Rosada's comment I had this aha-moment with the LotR reference. But please take it with some salt and a lot of creative interpretation. I was half-dreaming when I wrote it.

However I do get what Rosada is saying as I find myself in much the same place as you were when you posted back in 2018. Alone, tired of casual relationships and looking for a fulfilling relationship. I think I might might have 'sworn' never to make my moms mistakes when it came to romantic relationships back when I was a teenager. Meaning never to become as dependent as my mom.

Perhaps I will google 'spells' later today 🧐

All the feels!

Johanna
 
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you mean you never got into a serious relationship?
Yes.
Of course the lines are good. No pitfall. No disaster. Instead radiance, nobility, good fortune, drinking wine. Nothing bad.

And it may not mean "confined forever" for every one.
 

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