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I made 3 castings with the same question about different people and the question was: "how will it evolve between me and X until the end of the summer?" the casting for this first person was: 52.4.5 to 33.Line 4 of 52 says:" keep the torso still, no fault". The book says it is required to forget about the Self.Line 5 says: "jawbones must be still. The words have an order. The remorse disappears." here the book says that no jokes and no petty words are allowed and one must keep calm and be careful with words...So the situation is that he ignored a message and i dont know what will happen next, he is actually having fun on holiday with his family right now but he stays online, he comments things, he just ignored my message. It's a new" friend" who didn't make a move towards me for 10 days so then I was the one to make a move towards him. 33 is about running away so I guess he doesn't want to come back for the moment. But why? He was interested, he even said i should have written to him.I think the line about words is about connecting with him, it will happen despite the "withdrawal" But i'm confused by hex 33which is about not coming back. I for sure won't write to him again. Second question: how will things evolve between me and Y during the whole summer? 24.5 generous returning, no remorse. It may be physical comeback, because he is foreign and is now living in a city of my country. This one is an online friend and I'm not sure if to see him for real because he's too much mysterious and creepy. We met because he added me with an excuse and then he disappeared from social media for like months, then since i was in the mood of adding people i added him on another social media and he remembered. He wanted to see me for real but i said not now, too quick. Then i slowly moved afar, but he initially looked fine with just talking... My friend also was protective about that and convinced me not to trust him at all. He has a creepy temper. But i sometimes ask myself (since I was a little bit curious and drawn by his attitude!!!) if i can trust him or if there is risk. Last question is about the playboy guy who never behaved gentleman with me and who ghosted me for a year because i had ghosted him first ,lol! and he came back with such an impudent approach (after just asking if i was free a few evenings he only waited for the moment my friends left me alone just to jump on me!!!!!!) after one year (last june!) and we had never had a friendship before, like, he never tried to get to know me a little bit first!!So the casting was: how will things evolve with him? UNCHANGING 14 Great Possession... what does it mean? reading old posts I see it was experienced as physical sense of possession. Actually I'm not seeing him and i'm not replying to him for weeks but it doesn't work, because he doesn't change his personality traits and mental values: he wants to see me in a company of people where my friends don't want to participate anymore. Also the sensation is that he is a giant octopus who treats u like if u were at his service, because he has no mental rules (i mean, jumping on me after 0 contact since last june), no inibitions (he does no efforts to get u, he just thinks u have to say yes to him). How can I be more specific than this...He insists a lot from time to time, but if time goes he's not there waiting for me, he seeks for other girls and then comes back to see if this time i accept ahaha lol. But..without making any efforts, because he didn't invite me at a reasonable hour or for different activities than drinking with friends after dinner! Basically he wants me to follow his script and needs. I was thinking to give him a date but maybe it's better to keep the thing more shallow and see him only in company, less anxiety and he shouldn't act like a squid all the time like last time (my friends helped him in the plan).
 
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how will it evolve between me and X until the end of the summer? 52.4.5 > 33

i think your decision not to write to him anymore is reflected in this cast, you’re keeping yourself still and don’t let your words be cause for any additional regret. the image: Thus the superior man keeps the inferior man at a distance, Not angrily but with reserve - could be both, about you withdrawing from engaging in communication, but also about some inner work. maybe, as you say, even if you’ll eventually reconnect, within lines of 33, you’ll know how maintain the right „space”, so to speak, in your dealings with him?

how will things evolve between me and Y during the whole summer? 24.5 > 3

Wilhelm comments here: When the time for return has come, a man should not take shelter in trivial excuses, but should look within and examine himself. And if he has done something wrong he should make a noblehearted resolve to confess his fault. No one will regret having taken this road.

does he have something to apologise for? or maybe he just needs to be given a "fair" chance? and at the same time there’s the idea of hexagram 3, difficulties at the beginning, sprouting. possibly you’ll find some connection with this person, and who knows, maybe something will grow out of it?

how will things evolve with him? > 14 uc

interesting, about mr Ghost. i like Ewald’s translation for this one: Noble presence, a foundation for progress. and commentary: Being there in a magnanimous way. This will help progress.
so maybe it’s about either one or both of you being there for the other in some new way, as if raising above the past „evil” and learning to relate from a place of kindness and generosity of some sort? and from the start of this thread - could it be about shifting the attention from what's not there, or what's missing, to focusing on what's actually of value here (as well as within yourself)? :)

btw, not sure i understand what plan did your friends help him with and why though?
 

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how will it evolve between me and X until the end of the summer? 52.4.5 > 33i think your decision not to write to him anymore is reflected in this cast, you’re keeping yourself still and don’t let your words be cause for any additional regret. the image: Thus the superior man keeps the inferior man at a distance, Not angrily but with reserve - could be both, about you withdrawing from engaging in communication, but also about some inner work. maybe, as you say, even if you’ll eventually reconnect, within lines of 33, you’ll know how maintain the right „space”, so to speak, in your dealings with him?how will things evolve between me and Y during the whole summer? 24.5 > 3Wilhelm comments here: When the time for return has come, a man should not take shelter in trivial excuses, but should look within and examine himself. And if he has done something wrong he should make a noblehearted resolve to confess his fault. No one will regret having taken this road.does he have something to apologise for? or maybe he just needs to be given a "fair" chance? and at the same time there’s the idea of hexagram 3, difficulties at the beginning, sprouting. possibly you’ll find some connection with this person, and who knows, maybe something will grow out of it?how will things evolve with him? > 14 ucinteresting, about mr Ghost. i like Ewald’s translation for this one: Noble presence, a foundation for progress. and commentary: Being there in a magnanimous way. This will help progress.so maybe it’s about either one or both of you being there for the other in some new way, as if raising above the past „evil” and learning to relate from a place of kindness and generosity of some sort? and from the start of this thread - could it be about shifting the attention from what's not there, or what's missing, to focusing on what's actually of value here (as well as within yourself)? :)btw, not sure i understand what plan did your friends help him with and why though?
Thank you so much Legume, I was anxious to understand these castings. About 3rd casting with unchanging 14 , I wrote ''plan'' because it seemed like they all knew what he was going to do and they all left us alone and a girl told me what his script was going to use since he did the same with her (she said...), she said he would have written to me and invited me to some home. She also said he had always liked me and that we are all ''bodies'' to him and the problem is his head. Actually I had the opportunity to leave, and if i knew i would have accepted, but it's over, it's past now. Another friend of mine is instead protective, she said he's not that interested and that he wants only the available person for his needs. The fact is that he never really disappeared totally from my life, and that night he didn't want to let me go.... So you are actually saying he would really change? My friend says people don't change and I have to open my eyes, I am very influenced by what she said. Actually, I think that he may not change but I may say things straight anyways, and I just don't want him to take the control over me ;)but he acts so shallow that I can't even tell him things straight. When i mentioned him disappearing he lied saying ''i worked'' (he was with some other girls cuz he couldn't afford being refused by me) and he asked me why i didnt reply to his lame short message like ''hey'' said one time without insisting XD. that was so funny and creepy at the same time.I don't know what things will be like, if he will disappear again for a while since im ignoring him or if we will have something more, he kinda scares me since he is way too physical after a lot of time he wasn't in my life.Your last sentence about what was said in a previous thread hit me inside...''focus on what you have instead of what u dont have'' more or less, so i should give him a chance, should I? and to mention u, to release from the evil past and build things up from the start? Perhaps he will be generous, even if my friend says he won't change.Maybe. I guess this is up to me right now, and I shouldnt be influenced by others. I am actually anxious because he may tend to be stubborn and insist...I need a break from him.CASTING ONE about the guy I cared about who disappeared with the sea waves (and other girls I bet): Indeed, line 4 is totally referring to me, I'm thinking about him but im trying to detach with mind and I'm trying not to be angry. I'd just have to be like all these guys in order to live better and understand them , sigh.What I'd like to know if we will reconnect, and yeh, I will keep calm and accept that behavior (lol, don't know how this will last), limiting the space though, as u said, just to show i'm not liking him if he doesn't answer my message.Actually I commented on an old post of mine on social mine, mentioning that kind of behaviour, lol, with a friend... I wonder if he will see that and understand it's about ppl like him...CASTING TWO: the return... oh I don't know if he has something to apologize for, or maybe he does a few things but I still haven't opened my eyes because I know little about him- perhaps some lie? (Or the fact he started liking pictures of half naked girls? ahah)wow, I also thought that it is about opening myself to him and rising above difficulties but I don't know if this is worth the game. Hmm it's the guy I had done a previous casting on, in which I asked if I could trust him or not(the one with 52 with some changing lines)
 

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how will things evolve with him? > 14 uc
Noble presence, a foundation for progress.
and commentary: Being there in a magnanimous way. This will help progress.

feedback: nothing, he wasn't doing efforts to reach me, he wanted me to go there with other friends to see me and flirt with me, I stopped talking to him, ignored him, ghosted him and I don't regret it. ^^So no progress = nobody was ''noble'', ''magnaniumous'', basically the opposite of what this casting could predict XD I mean, no goodness happened XD
 

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how will it evolve between me and X until the end of the summer? 52.4.5 > 33
He disappeared, so I thought about him a lot, I missed him,felt angry and tried to have fun with other people to forget about him.
 

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how will things evolve between me and Y during the whole summer? 24.5 > 3
we never talked again after a jealousy exchange of words he didn't take seriously. I wasn't interested in reaching him again since I don't even know if he is hot or not :)
 

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52.4.5 to 33.Line 4 of 52 says:" keep the torso still, no fault". The book says it is required to forget about the Self.Line 5 says: "jawbones must be still. The words have an order.

I've got a concrete feedback for this: he got graduated at university and didn't tell me. He ghosted me entirely.
 

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About option 14, he did no efforts to catch me. Probably i will see him in a while, probably not, but for sure i did without him. In addition though, a friend started making pressure on me to have a one night stand with him because she said he is so hot.
 

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24.5 > 3. Here i reconnected with him and he replied back and then kept messaging me. I always answered, i couldn't ghost him like the other guy did with me but honestly i am changing my mind on him... I just find creepy the way he speaks... He is mysterious and i dont know if i might like him or not, physically talking he doesn't make me go crazy over him. But... I sometimes looked for him to text xD it is just virtual. He actually complimented me for my appearance, for the first time. And i dont know but i get the impulse for texting him xD it's a virtual online friend. He once said to meet eachother but i still don't trust him....
 

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