Hurricane Wilma

[seeker]

The joys of living in South Florida. Once again, I am directly in the predicted path of an oncoming hurricane. My instinct says it is not going where they think it is, but yet I still have a bad feeling. I asked Yi How much concern do I need to have for Hurricane Wilma? 23.4.6 Will Hurricane Wilma hit here? 8 unchanging What is behind the sense of foreboding I have? 47.4.5

23.4.6 seems to really speak about the nature of hurricanes, as 4 talks of almost total destruction and 6 speaks of renewal. Does not seem to bode well. I am really unclear on the other two. Help appreciated, thanks

 

[cal val]

Seeker...

Evacuate!

Love,

Val

 

[seeker]

My dad and I talked about that, but there really isnt any place to go. I asked about evacuation anyway and got 26.2.5, so what should I do 21.1.2.6???

26.2.5 talks about restraint and not acting, unless I am misreading it.

But the 21 is confusing, the lines are different depending on the translation I use, but 6 generally talks of not listening.

 

[void]

Do you ever feel overwhelmed by all these readings ? Regarding life and death you would not find me lingering long over the Yi Jing thats for sure. Take your common sense and your intuition and whatever other information you have regarding this hurricane and act on that. I mean you'd have to be a very confident and learned Yi Jinger to stay there because Yi said so when all your other instincts are telling you to go.

 

[seeker]

Well, I would hardly call this a life and death situation, the hurricane is 4 days away; it could go anywhere, and my instincts are actually telling me to stay. And while I might not base my whole decision on what the Yi said, I have a tremendous amount of faith in its ability to guide me. Whats the point of using Yi if you dont trust the answers. Besides, how will I ever become a very confidant and learned Yi Jinger if I do not ask questions and see what the answers yield in regards to experience.

 

[micheline]

23.4.6 seem to be simply illuminating the situation...a hurricane is coming and you may be close to disaster, but there is a big chance you can still get away and be safe...(the rich man gets a carriage, the inferior man loses his home..yikes)
but 26.2.5 says you ain't got the wheels to get out and you better try to take strong preventive measures. This is still possible.
21 says do what you gotta do! your feet are stuck, so do what you must do to prepare if you are going to stay...and listen to the advice in the preceding readings.
It doesnt seem to bode well......but it could be reflecting the course of events as they look now.........the situation could change

 

[cal val]

You said, "Whats the point of using Yi if you dont trust the answers."

"Will Hurricane Wilma hit here?" 8 unchanging - YES

Yeah it could go anywhere as you say, but if you're going to trust the Yi's answers, you have to trust that it's going to hit there.

I don't believe the Yi is telling you you CAN'T move. I believe the Yi is talking about your attitude toward evacuating. It seems you don't want to. From Brad's interpretation on 21.6 -"Having demonstrated his deafness to words of fair warning..." That's all I'd need to hear, and I'd be packing, myself.

You know you're lucky you get warnings with hurricanes... and the opportunity to save yourself and your family. We don't get any warnings here with earthquakes.

Love,

Val

 

[jte]

FWIW, agreeing with Val that Hex 8 is, in the context of your question, about as close to a direct yes answer as you're likely to ever get out of the Yi.

"I asked about evacuation anyway and got 26.2.5"

This isn't *necessarily* advice not to evacuate. 26.5 could be the result of starting the process early with time to pack and plan. 26.2 might be what happens if you postpone too long - freeways jammed, no place to go, etc. The lines as two alternatives...

If you do stay, be sure to prep your house - board windows etc, that's another message I'm getting in all this, esp. in 23.6. The ol' literal side of Yi readings...

*Hope you're OK*

- Jeff

 

[luz]

Seeker,

I live in South Florida too and I'm watching both Wilma and this thread with a lot of interest..

Regarding evacuation, there are guidelines, no? How close to the shore do you live? Is your area very prone to flooding? Do you have shutters?

I don't know exactly where you are located but down here in Miami, it is very unlikely that we would get the kind of severe flooding they got in NO, for instance. I don't really consider evacuating because I am not close to the shore. If I didn't have shutters I would perhaps consider a shelter, but otherwise I feel like I can ride it out, so to speak. I think the decision to evacuate or not depends on all these things plus any mandatory orders for your area, of course.

Wish you luck and hope that it's not as bad as it could be for both of us!

 

[seeker]

Thanks for all the responses. Yes, I do have hurricane shutters and I am about 20 miles inland from Ft Myers Beach. Can you explain how 8 is a yes to the hurricane hitting here? Its one I have difficulty with, but I usually see it as either leading or joining a group. I know the image is waters flowing together which might denote the image of a hurricane, but it hits here it is hitting land, so I am confused as to how this hex was a definite yes. Obviously I am missing something.

 

[jte]

"Can you explain how 8 is a yes to the hurricane hitting here?"

Union - sometimes (rarely, but it happens every so often) the title of the Hex brings the main message. Union in the sense of coming together (in this case, the hurricane coming together with FL).

That's how I'd see it. I suspect Val has a similar view...

- Jeff

 

[jesed]

Seeker:
Just a little commentarie:

You wrote: "I know the image is waters flowing together "
Actually is WATER ABOVE EARTH


Best wishes

 

[seeker]

Guess it depends on who is translating. Dreamhawk says waters flowing together, and Wilhelm talks of water flowing to unite with water and filling up empty spaces. Lise translates it as stand by and says on the earth water flows, which is a bit different. She also mentions Yu conquering the flood, which I think may have some meaning in relation to my question. And while the hurricane is most likely going to hit Fla, my question was about my specific city. I see now how you interpreted it, but I honestly think there is more to it. They are now predicting it to hit Collier County which is an hour south of me. I will be putting up my shutters, battoning down the hatches so to speak. If nothing else, I think this is going to be a great lesson in interpreting the I Ching.

 

[greenowl]

Here's something Hilary wrote about hexagram 8:

"And this is very often the meaning of this hexagram in divination, especially when it's unchanging: you choose! You choose what to believe and how to understand your world; you choose where you belong in it. Most of all, you choose your relationships, which make up the fabric of your world. If your life were a blank slate, with 'the rules' and 'the priorities' erased, what would you draw?"

In the context of your question, "Will Hurricane Wilma hit here?" I think this could be interpreted as meaning that it hasn't 'decided' yet where it wants to go. Which jives pretty well with what the weather people have been saying anyway - at this point it's too early to tell, it could follow one of several tracks and so forth.

Friggin' hurricanes. I'm very glad I live where I do, in a natural-disaster-free zone, where the worst we get are heavy snowstorms - which, as a writer for our newspaper put it, "melt all by themselves, without any help from FEMA."

 

[kevin]

I was wondering about the trigrams - Water over the earth.

So I asked the Yi - Does it mean flooding.

The response was Hx.8 no changing lines.

I do wish the yi would not do this sort of thing...

--K

 

[hilary]

Brilliant!

Water over the earth, indeed - and also associated with Yu after he'd brought the floodwaters under control so people could build without fear.

It certainly is a great opportunity to learn some practical interpretation, and that's an admirably philosophical attitude. If it were me, I'd've left after the first reading, resources permitting. (Having got the car serviced first.) If you really can't leave, then I would suggest battening hatches like mad.

There, now I've stuck my neck out, and looking forward to being wrong, I hope. (I have my shiny Yu-related excuse all lined up and raring to go.)

 

[cal val]

Kevin...

You and Seeker both asked questions that require a yes or a no for an answer. You both got a yes.

Yes Jeff... union=bingo yes... yes yes yes!

Love,

Val

 

[kevin]

Good luck to you and yours Seeker.

Well Val - It was a new one to me. The Yi and I have this understanding - I nearly always get Li when I have found an answer...

I think the Yi was making a point.

Yes it is the time of Yu's rebuilding after the floods were tamed and when he set the world in order.

Living and learning

--Kevin

 

[cal val]

Hi Kevin...

I get Li as an answer too... but not usually to questions that require a yes or no answer. It's usually when I want feedback on my understanding of a situation... and that includes my interpretations. I take it as saying, "You're in communication with heaven on that one... you understand clearly."

I'm with Hilary on this one. I would have started packing actually at 23.4... so that I could be relatively assured of living to see the 23.6.

Hi Seeker...

Thanks for the location. I'm going to watch that spot on the map very closely for the next three days or so. I'm very concerned. You probably already knew that though. You know as we speak they're setting up shelters in safe areas for those who have nowhere else to go. On cnn.com they have a comparison of Katrina, Rita and Wilma. The link is on the first page, right below the feature story (which is Wilma of course), go to Gallery... then the link called Wilma, Katrina and Rita. Wilma is by far the worst of the three... she's very big and very bad. She's a bitch who is not to be trifled with.

Love,

Val

 

[cal val]

Good morning from LA...

The first thing I thought about this morning was... Harry Potter... I've been getting psyched for the fourth movie... and I was dreaming about it when the alarm went off. *grin*

The second thing I thought about was Seeker, and I asked the Yi how she is. The answer was 64.1.2.4.6 to 24. I hope that means she's safe.

Love,

Val

 

[micheline]

I was thinking of lightangel in miami...I hope she is okay too

 

[cal val]

Feedback on Seeker's answers of 23.4 and 8 (will it hit here?) from cnn.com 10/24/05 9:21pm EST.

"It looks like Lee and Collier counties are the most heavily damaged," Paulison said." Ft. Myers is in Lee County.

As to 23.6, time will tell.

I don't imagine we'll be getting any feedback from Seeker for awhile though. Or even lightangel for that matter.

Love,

Val

 

[jte]

Hopefully when the power comes back on they can chime in again. If they're not too busy cleaning up...

- Jeff

 

[seeker]

Thanks for thinking of me guys. I am here, alive and well. As usual the media is a bit off. It came ashore in Naples as cat 3, exactly as I predicted about a week ago. Collier County has some damage, but Lee County actually faired very well. I was out earlier, and though there is a lot of debris from trees and such, there is little structural damage, and last I heard no major injuries. Oddly enough, everyone in town is without power except my area. We lost it for a bit this evening, but it came back on. I spent the day with my daughter and my parents (my dad then headed to Tampa for his job and my mom is staying with me since they are still without power). From what I have heard the power outage is the worst of it. Because the scope of this one was so large, 3 x the people lost power as did with Hurricane Charley. And the other side of the state suffered some flooding. For me the worst was the trapped feeling. I actually love storms, should have been a storm chaser. I wanted to stand outside like I did with Charley (yes, I am one of those idiots who stands in the driveway in the middle of it and goes woah, cool). But the storm shutters made that impossible. Even my front door was covered because it has glass in it. The only exit was my garage door, and I am not so big an idiot that I would open it with 70 mph hour winds. Good way to watch my stuff go sailing away

So I spent several hours pacing around like a caged animal. I finally wore myself out and went back to bed. All in all, not too bad, so now I am looking at the readings and trying to figure them out. I do hope we hear from Liteangel soon, I think they got it worse than us. Thanks again for thinking of me. So, now that we know the outcome, what are your thoughts for the reading???

 

[yellowknife]

Glad you're okay Seeker,
was thinking of you and Lightangel too.

You asked what was behind the sense of foreboding you have and got 47,4,5- which seems to fit very well with "pacing like a caged animal", the confinement and being restricted.

Your exhilaration at storms is interesting.

It makes me think that although culturally there's often a big fear of change, stripping away, upheaval and upturned beds;some people are drawn to it and work best when things and people are in flux. I'm thinking about you and relationships maybe- part of you wants stability, part of you enjoys challenge.

Sorry, waffling,
just sounds like part of yourself to know, accept and rejoice in.

Sad for a prospective storm chaser to have to stay behind thick shutters...

 

[frank]

I?m very glad to hear you?re OK, Seeker.

 

[martin]

Good to hear that you're fine Seeker.
I think Lightangel I still without power but she was able to mail me yesterday (laptop on batteries & dial up) to let me know that she is okay.

 

[bruce]

Glad to hear Seeker and Angel are both safe. Thanks for the update, Martin.

 

[seeker]

Thanks again all. Wolverine, interesting thoughts, will have to ponder

 

[luz]

Hi, thanks to everyone for thinking of me. I am still without power and I even lost my phone line for a couple of days but at least there was no damage to anything and the weather is cooperating beautifully! It's been around 75 F during the day. The storm was pretty scary but I pretty much slept through it, so it wasn't that bad. I'm glad that Seeker is also safe and sound!