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This might seem like stating the obvious to older members, but I just had this insight and wanted to share: I woke up this morning and got into re-potting some of my balcony plants. Especially one of them I'm worried about cause I had to cut back a lot of it, separate the one surviving stem&roots from all the rest (plus I'm a rookie at gardening and not sure if all I'm doing is good . . I'm going at this by instinct and by whatever I remember my mum doing)

Anyways, after I finished and sat with a cup of coffee, I thought of asking about whether it would make it thru in its new pot: I thought of it in its new birth, i the dark, trying to settle in and how it might 'feel' in there, trying to gauge from outside, the 'weather', the energies in there and threw the question . .

My answer came back as 17.4 to 3 and it's at that point that hx3 felt perfectly right as an equivalent for 'putting down roots', roots as the 'helpers' that are mentioned in the text and even, the stationary troops (as mentioned in another version of hx3), the 'soldiers' hidden in barricades, entrenched within the soil, making sure this expedition is backed up and going strong . . I think 'setting down roots' will be up there in my go-to phrases for hx3 from now on! :)



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(Will my repotted plant flourish?)
17.4 > 3


Bradford 17.X:

Within the pool there is thunder
Following
The noble young one, accordingly, approaching nightfall,
Goes indoors for refreshment and relaxation

This suggests that your newly repotted plant will benefit from shade for a few days. Repotting can be serious surgery, and the plant will need less stress for a few days to recover. (I speculate that the light in Greece is now becoming intense.) I am scheduled for colonoscopy this week in which all one's night soil is displaced, so I am being repotted myself :) The text of line 4 suggests to me that you can do better than your mum did:

Bradford 17.4:
Following to achieve success
Persistence has pitfalls
Being truly on the path,
Using clarity,
Where is the error?

Did you use new potting soil? I have had better luck with commercial potting soil than with soil I compounded myself. If you are prudent, innovation can be auspicious. That is, ask what this plant truly needs, not what has been done in the past. If the past were the acme of truth, there would be no change in the world.

About hexagram 3, doesn't it refer to a sprout rather than a root? I realize that in plants the first emission from plant material (like a sprouting seed) is a root (radicle) rather than a sprout.
 
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About hexagram 3, doesn't it refer to a sprout rather than a root? I realize that in plants the first emission from plant material (like a sprouting seed) is a root (radicle) rather than a sprout.

This was my question too when I read Dora's post. But knowing her ideas, though sometimes obscure, are sometimes brilliant. So I let it rest on the back burner today. Now that I've returned to it, I can more easily picture 3 as re-potting. Even if one transplants oneself, there's a time of 3 to face. New soil, new treatment, new care, new results.

Even literally, it's a time of difficult adaptation for a plant's roots (and therefore its life) to be transplanted.

Sprouting to me is a 35 outward motion more than a 46 upward motion, and both apply to Dora's plant, with a pretty severe dose of 23 to boot. Lot of stress on that organism to overcome, but sometimes a fresh start calls for severity, and risk.
 

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hey . . thanks for the vote of confidence and the comment Bruce :blush: - crazy hectic schedule has my replies dragging here - love your frog up there ;)

Tom, I never thought I'd have to wish that to anyone :eek: but I hope everything went well with your re-potting . . I did use ready soil and hope it's worked to the best. You hit a sore spot with your comment about my mum there, as my relationship with her is going thru major upheavals the past few years - and where, yes, I hope I'm doing things better than her cause -I feel- she has failed me . . ( a whole different discussion from this one here . .). I liked how you saw the radicle as the first energy manifestation of the seed - it makes all the more sense


The notion of 'sprouting' is what I usually have in mind about 3 too, but this reading here came up like 'roots' so loud and clear that debating it thru logic didn't make much sense to me . . even in the sequence of hxs, it makes sense to 'read' hx3 as action putting roots into earth, securing its continuation . . 'roots' feels right to me and I will stay with the idea testing it out in my readings - and we'll see how far it can stand as it is


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Hi, Dora:

A temporary literal translation of 17.4:


FOLLOWING TO HAVE A CAPTURE: OMEN HORRIBLE!
If we only look for getting profit, we will find misfortune.

HAVING COUGHT ON THE WAY BY CLARITY, HOW SHOULD IT BE WRONG?
What we get following our own path and understanding cannot be but lucky.

A temporary literal translation of H.3:


STORING UP. ORIGINS FEAST. PROFITABLE OMEN.
In the origin was the celebration of Storing Up, which is of course, profitable.

DON'T USE TO HAVE FAR TO GO.
Don't go too far, remain now and here. Be close.

PROFITABLE TO ESTABLISH TARGETS.
Profitable to set up one's goals.

The traditional image of H.3 TUN was that the plant that has issued roots can later pierce the soil and sprout.

Of course, given that ROOT means SEX, there is an alternative moral about the profitability of establishing one's noble (the marquis), but that's another story and mainly for boys.


All the best,


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hello Charly :)


I was wondering about what Tom mentioned in his post concerning keeping the pot away from the sun but, reading your translation, the part on 'clarity' stuck with me: 'following the sun' maybe? watering at night, staying in the sun during the day? I think I 'd better have it where it can follow the light more naturally . .


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Hi, Dora:

The word that I've translated CLARITY depicts a SUN and a MOON, meaning LIGHT, BRIGHT, CLARITY but also UNDERSTANDING, say, OUR CLARITY.

Maybe our understanding follows two sort of light: the light of the consciousness (SUN) and the light of the unconscious (MOON), without both lights there is no understanding, and that's the natural way.

I remember the prints quoted by Jung joining sun and moon, king and queen in a SACRED MARRIAGE, but that's another story.

Best whishes,

Charly
 

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Maybe our understanding follows two sort of light: the light of the consciousness (SUN) and the light of the unconscious (MOON), without both lights there is no understanding, and that's the natural way.


I really like that Charly, it makes a lot of sense here: what happens above and beneath the ground is equally important for the fate of these plants!

What you mention about the 'sacred marriage' reminded me of another part of the story:
the morning I set into re-potting, I had actually wanted to go to church but instead I got caught up with gardening. The next day at work, I mentioned it all in a discussion with some colleagues and one of them remarked on the missing church part - both me and another person present replied, saying that the work I did was equivalent to attending communion, it was like a prayer and a sacred marriage . . I know you probably had a different kind of merging in mind, but maybe that is not that much of a 'different story' after all

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