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Hi you all,

Liberation is giving freedom to positive energy. However line 1 is a bit confusing to me. It is in the beginning of the hx, in the middle of danger, unable to help itself, but it is in correspondence with line 4, a strong line in in a yielding place.

Does it means that the right action to be blameless and get out of danger is to look for help?

t.
 

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Oi ! Is this 'Divination News' ? No ! Its a reading you'd like help with so you gotta post it in the Shared Readings area see. :D well you'll probably get more replies there anyway.
 

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The hexagram has four corners as the law says about contracts . That is to say, don't take an isolated moving line and look at what the outcome would be if you just had that one moving line. Promise me, it is not good practice. Stay with the four corners. Meaning, your hexagram, moving lines and all is what you received. that is your four corners. The outcome hexagram takes into account all the moving lines, no isolated moving lines, never. I think Karcher teaches or used to teach this. No, no , no.

"Great indeed is the time and meaning of deliverance." Deliverance is getting out of trouble. whew! That's deliverance almost in a nutshell. The position of the lines is interesting for this hexagram. Each line represents how to get out of this trouble you probably got yourself into. Each line as it goes up gets better. Finally, shoooting the hawk on the high wall, although not very Buddhist means you have escaped or prevailed. Whew!
 

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Deliverance Redoux

Usually this hexagram would be part of a series of divinations. 40 will advice to a strategy you have proposed and, as the lines sometimes say 'don't try that strategy, it will be ineffective, won't work, makes things worse. It's up to you to throw again about alternate strategies. After all, you have the Book and you are supposed to win!
 

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In the first posting I meant to say that the lines do not get better until the 6th line is reached. Each line is advice about a proposed plan of action you might think about doing . If you could advance straight to the 6th line, wouldn't that be a wu wei sort of thing.
 
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Does it means that the right action to be blameless and get out of danger is to look for help?

t.

It's clearing for a fresh way. Any old stuff we drag with us only defeats the way. So line 1 says there's no blame in turning loose.

As for looking for help, that could always be a possibility. But the main thing is to move on. Hanging around in the abyss isn't recommended.
 

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Delieverance

Looking for help would be one possibility but only one. There are endless possibilities and strategies and you should inquire of the Yi about them. try to be more specific than just asking for help.
 

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An Example of Deliverance

An elderly man came to be for help. it seemed that while he was in hospital his son had found in his father's papers a property deed giving the father's home to his son. the father had done this to save his son the expenses of probate. How awful and greedy this is. The son was refusing to deed back the property to his father citing utterly ridiculuous reasons, the chief one being that the father's property was his (the son's in heritance)
first reading: 40 yeah! the father may get his property back.

2nd: should we file suit, answer 9. Bad reading it reminds me of a swamp, everything gets bogged down in a yin situation.

3rd: Well, what should we do? Answer 37 and then 51:6. Among other meanings the higher the line goes in hexagram 51, the greater the information is broadcast. Togetyher with 37 it suggest that the father Broadcast this situation to the entire family. when notifiied the entire family is horrified with the son. The son, however, does not back down and starts a hurtful campaign that his father never loved him etc. Of course no one could understand the logic. Many relatives gathered and talked to the son on speaker phone for 2 1/2 hrs and got a maybe response.

4th 40:6 Deliverance is achieved. but (very important) I was not quite sure if it was over because one could not trust the son at all. I asked again: 51:6 again. This time the father wrote the son's mother (they are divorced but on cordial terms) She is a proessor of ethics. She calls the son in for a talk apparently. Since her estate is quite large and the son the only child we can only surmise what happened. The son dropped his demand and signed the papers.:bows:
 

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Deliverance additional notes

I should point out that in the case study above there were several constraints and time issues. First have comassion for this father about the betrayal of his only sone. One could easily have mistaken 51:6 for the shock and anguish the father experienced. Second, the house had been sold (the son signed the sales contract and the closing was imminent. The title company wanted to write one check to the son; one to the father. Oh lordy no, I thought, That's when I thre the coins again and received 51:6 again. The mother originally knew of the problem but preferred to stay out of it. The second letter to her was quite articulate and moving (I thought) it weas then the son sighen deed giving the property to his father and only one check was issed, that being to the father.

I can see Meng and I disagree but at the last part of the problem is the need for healing and forgiveness. It is a time to heal and move on although the father remains estranged from the son, he is being freed rather quickly by the mechanisms of forgiveness. One needs to forgive but there is no need to condone this kind of behavior shown by the son.:bows:
 

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