I-Ching as a Positioning tool

[analogymaster]

Step 1, making assumptions of what defines you, and categorize them in this way.

Line 1: Your role, social status, social image
Line 2: Your resources, sources of income, level of spending
Line 3: Your skill, expertise, certain belief
Line 4: Your relation, leadership, friendship
Line 5: Your work, family, geographical environment
Line 6: Your thought, idea, dream

Step 2, set a parameter that quantifies the eager of change of the assumptions you summarized above.

Line 1: Perception
Line 2: Variables
Line 3: Principles
Line 4: Consciousness
Line 5: Facts
Line 6: Cognition

Step 3, See if you eager to change exceed the parameter you have set.
Yes -> Yang —
No -> Yin --

Step 4, Draw the hexagram, see if the wisdom of the hexagram inspire you.

Step 5, Read what I-Ching warns you if Line 1-6 changed from the hexagram you draw, so that you know which direction of change is what you desired.
Or
When certain things happens to you and you are seeking advice from I-Ching, draw the diagram again from step 1-4, and see what lines has been changed, and what further explanation I-Ching tells you when your diagram changed.

More detailed methodology I summarized that explains the origin of this model is in the PDF file below.

Hope everyone can understand themselves better through reading I-Ching.

Feel free to communicate your thoughts and experiences.

 

[analogymaster]

I define myself as having strong eager to change:

Step 1-3:
Line1: Perception, I will be married soon, I wish that I can take more responsibility of my families, and being known as a honorable coworker and husband in the future.
Line2: Variables, I will start my career soon, I wish that I can make more money than I am right now, and gain recognition of me as a happy middle class.
Line4: Consciousness, ever since I come to Houston for my master, I have very little connections and relations with other people, I wish I can build new connections with more people and be more involved in local community.
Line6: Cognition, the lockdown in Shanghai has changed my thoughts towards CCP completely, I used to believe that CCP tried hard to come up with policies that improves its citizens life and happiness, now I realized how naive I was, and I wish that I can change my perspective of the life I desired.

Not having strong eager to change:
Line 3: Principles, I will be graduating from my master degree soon, I wish that I can utilize my achievement by my existing knowledge, skills, and belief in my new career.
Line 5: Facts, I am satisfied with where I am living right now, and I don't want dramatic changes in my work, family and living environment.

Step 4:

Result:
Hex 37, People in Home
I-Ching describe my situation clearly, I am a good man who wants to build a home and to live in a environment without fear and anxiety.

Step 5:

Possible change I may want to do:

Change in line 3: Making family rich, Very good.
Change in line 5: Take care the family, don't put too much attention on career, will be good.
Change in line 2: Some good people with will bring your fortune, no worry.
Change in line 1: Be honest, and build your authority, will be fine.

Possible change I may not want to do:

Change in line 4: if you are poor, family will be striving, if you are rich, family will be spoiled, pretty bad.
Change in line 6: be aware of accident in your family, don't be regret of what you have thought about something.

I was Hex 22, Beauty (lol)
Beauty outside, weak inside.

I chose the path of changing line 2, Variables (really need to try as hard as I can to make money.)
The wisdom of I-Ching says:
Run to beautiful garden with many cloth, it will hard in the beginning, but eventually it will be fine.

(Definitely not easy to find a job and now I am so happy that I push my self hard enough for positive changes in earning).

 

[surnevs]

On pg 7 in the pdf You attached at #1 I guess You mean Short-term memory?

 

[analogymaster]

On pg 7 in the pdf You attached at #1 I guess You mean Short-term memory?

Not scientifically, yes.

 

[Trojina]

I think consulting is like a conversation, we don't need to box in answers to this extent do we? That is Yi is not a 'tool' that we operate it is an Oracle, it speaks. So your approach doesn't appeal to me at all but may do to some people.

Many people have said consulting Yi is like looking at a map. It helps you know where you are in order to make better choices. If that is what you mean by a 'positioning tool' then yes consulting Yi is a bit like looking at a map. But a tool is something we operate and we don't operate Yi. I realise we don't have enough words really to say what Yi is so 'tool' is sort of near enough in many senses but we do not of course operate it nor tell it what to do.

Step 2, set a parameter that quantifies the eager of change of the assumptions you summarized above.

Line 1: Perception
Line 2: Variables
Line 3: Principles
Line 4: Consciousness
Line 5: Facts
Line 6: Cognition

Why would line 2 be variables, why would line 3 be principles?

 

[analogymaster]

I think consulting is like a conversation, we don't need to box in answers to this extent do we? That is Yi is not a 'tool' that we operate it is an Oracle, it speaks. So your approach doesn't appeal to me at all but may do to some people.

Many people have said consulting Yi is like looking at a map. It helps you know where you are in order to make better choices. If that is what you mean by a 'positioning tool' then yes consulting Yi is a bit like looking at a map. But a tool is something we operate and we don't operate Yi. I realise we don't have enough words really to say what Yi is so 'tool' is sort of near enough in many senses but we do not of course operate it nor tell it what to do.



Why would line 2 be variables, why would line 3 be principles?

I am sure there are multiple ways of reading and interpreting I-Ching, I just find this perspective very interesting. To be honest, “the eager to change” changes very frequently if your parameters are volatile , which means nearly every hexagrams can represent your state of mind at different period of life. The usefulness of I-Ching as a tool if you used it this way requires further study and experiment to test it.
The Traditional way of understanding I-Ching could help people to form a musclier memory of reacting in different situations. Sort like Meditation and Hypnosis.
I felt I-Ching is coded in a way that creates information asymmetry between Earliest taoist and people seeking for advice, otherwise, people will just be annoyed by the level of complexity and effort they put for one simple life advice. No one knows if the newer Taoist fellows use it as good as the ancient one.
Try to compare and contrast the how life advice changes from line 2 or line 3, I felt variable and principle are the most appropriate answer, maybe you will get something different, and that’s 100% normal because people have different sets of common sense.

 

[analogymaster]

If in the future, big tech companies like Facebook and google can summarize those data and use machine learning to draw hexagram for each individual and to predict one may seek to change under certain circumstances, they could boost their advertisement efficiency at a whole new level.
I truly believe nowadays people can still learn from I-Ching, and use it as a positioning tool(like a map).

 

[surnevs]

Not scientifically, yes.

But, did You mean Shot-term-memory ? (as it's written ? see attached screencut))

 

[analogymaster]

But, did You mean Shot-term-memory ? (as it's written ? see attached screencut))

Typo… by the way
AIO stands for Active In-Out
PIO stands for Passive In-Out
AH stands for Active Hidden
PH stands for Passive Hidden.

 

[surnevs]

Typo… by the way
AIO stands for Active In-Out
PIO stands for Passive In-Out
AH stands for Active Hidden
PH stands for Passive Hidden.

Right. thank You, just wanted to be clear about it (Short-term-memory contra Long-term-memory)

 

[surnevs]

Step 1, making assumptions of what defines you, and categorize them in this way.

Line 1: Your role, social status, social image
Line 2: Your resources, sources of income, level of spending
Line 3: Your skill, expertise, certain belief
Line 4: Your relation, leadership, friendship
Line 5: Your work, family, geographical environment
Line 6: Your thought, idea, dream

Step 2, set a parameter that quantifies the eager of change of the assumptions you summarized above.

Line 1: Perception
Line 2: Variables
Line 3: Principles
Line 4: Consciousness
Line 5: Facts
Line 6: Cognition

Step 3, See if you eager to change exceed the parameter you have set.
Yes -> Yang —
No -> Yin --

Step 4, Draw the hexagram, see if the wisdom of the hexagram inspire you.

Step 5, Read what I-Ching warns you if Line 1-6 changed from the hexagram you draw, so that you know which direction of change is what you desired.
Or
When certain things happens to you and you are seeking advice from I-Ching, draw the diagram again from step 1-4, and see what lines has been changed, and what further explanation I-Ching tells you when your diagram changed.

More detailed methodology I summarized that explains the origin of this model is in the PDF file below.

Hope everyone can understand themselves better through reading I-Ching.

Feel free to communicate your thoughts and experiences.

I've tried to understand Your posting but without luck. Is it right understood that your attachment (% see attached) is illustrations to a text? In case so, is that text to be found in your postings here above (#1,2)? (In case it's not illustrative illustrations to a text I'm off)
I can only wish You luck with your project and add that because I can't find the clue to an understanding does not mean that it isn't there.

 

[analogymaster]

I've tried to understand Your posting but without luck. Is it right understood that your attachment (% see attached) is illustrations to a text? In case so, is that text to be found in your postings here above (#1,2)? (In case it's not illustrative illustrations to a text I'm off)
I can only wish You luck with your project and add that because I can't find the clue to an understanding does not mean that it isn't there.

The attachment explains where I arrive this way of interpreting I-CHING as a tool, and it is based on my analogy of how mind is being formed. I find it useful in organizing common sense and deconstructing psychological concepts. It’s basically a mind map.

assumptions(step1) are linked to the slide of EXM.
parameters (step2) are linked to the slide of CLA.

I tried this method several times to form hexagrams for my friends based on how I think they are (step1-3) right now. I told them what does I-Ching says about the hexagram I got, and they find I-CHING describe their situation pretty much accurately and helpful, I can’t prove it to be “right” in a scientific way, but I guess that’s what this thread is for: letting more people try and interpret this method by themselves.

Hopefully this can help you understand what I am saying, maybe in the future I can either program it or write a paper for it.
I am majoring finance, so if nobody want to carry it forward, probably gonna take me a decade to figure it all out.

 

[surnevs]

The attachment explains where I arrive this way of interpreting I-CHING as a tool, and it is based on my analogy of how mind is being formed. I find it useful in organizing common sense and deconstructing psychological concepts. It’s basically a mind map.

assumptions(step1) are linked to the slide of EXM.
parameters (step2) are linked to the slide of CLA.

I tried this method several times to form hexagrams for my friends based on how I think they are (step1-3) right now. I told them what does I-Ching says about the hexagram I got, and they find I-CHING describe their situation pretty much accurately and helpful, I can’t prove it to be “right” in a scientific way, but I guess that’s what this thread is for: letting more people try and interpret this method by themselves.

Hopefully this can help you understand what I am saying, maybe in the future I can either program it or write a paper for it.
I am majoring finance, so if nobody want to carry it forward, probably gonna take me a decade to figure it all out.

Basically, I'm open to new ways of interpretation- and methods to deepen the understanding/clarification of the Book of Changes, so Your approach I hopefully did not take into miscredit in my replies here.
I've learned not to push things away just because they may look odd at a first glance and my initial question concerning this "Shot-term etc." were sole because English isn't my native language and therefore I wanted to be clear about it ie it could, in theory, be You writing it in a specific meaning.
(The coin predicting method once was new and today nobody asks into it like I can imagine someone did back then, but what do I know about this....)