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I Ching/Tarot Associations - Karen Witter

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It was the episode when Mr Burns' lost childhood teddybear (Bobo) turns up decades later inside a bag of ice that was being sold at the Qwiky-Mart.

Bart points out: uhhh... Apu, this bag has a HEad in it!
Apu (bent on turning a buck at any cost) responds: oooooooo, a HEad bag. that's chockful of........ heady-goodness.

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Oh, yes, I remember! My favourite Apu quote is when Krusty stages his own death by crashing a plane into a cliff. As he flies past the Kwik-E-Mart, Apu excaims, "Shiva H. Vishnu!" - so wonderfully irreverent!

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ahhh yes, "Kwik-E-Mart" not "Quiky-Mart" an amused passer-by and a true fan are easily distinguished
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Mick, so sorry and many thanks for allowing us to clutter up your, up-till-now, perfectly flowing page. fortunately for us, you're a tolerant gentleman
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Sorry from me, too, Mick.

Any more Simpson's-related silliness will happen elsewhere, I promise.

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Shelley
 

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Dharma/Shelley,

No need to apologise
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I love the Simpsons. Have you seen the episode where they come to London?

Homer (to man working in the Hotel): And don't give me any of your dry English wit

Hotel man (drily): No Sir. I wouldn't dream of it.

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Dharma and everyone,

In Karen Witter's sytem, the next correspondence is between Hx 56 The Wanderer and XX Le Jugement (Judgement).

I don't think that this correspondence is as straightforward as some of the others.

To me, Tarot Trump XX has to do with spiritual awakening. But it also has the sense of wanting a final outcome once and for all.

Perhaps this fits with the image Hx 56 on page 217 of Wilhelm/Baynes,

...Thus the superior man
Is clear-minded and cautious
In imposing penalties,
And protracts no lawsuits


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while hx56 focuses on a proper assessment of how one quests for one's truth, Judgement (XX) focuses on a proper evaluation of an important milestone reached

both are ultimately concerned with the importance of being fully aware during transitional phases
 

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Dharma and everyone,

In Karen Witter's system, the next correspondence is between Hx 59 Dispersion [Dissolution] and VI L'Amoureux (The Lovers).

The Lovers card often means that the querent is faced with a choice, most frequently to do with relationships.

Similarly, I find that Hx 59 is often to do with making a choice and taking the risk of moving on from the past.

Hx 59 is wind/wood over water and one image is of a boat crossing a great stream (W/B p.228).

I've think that this image is very useful for describing the Lovers card in Tarot readings. I can even remember interpreting someone's dream about a boat on the water by relating it to Hx 59 and the Lovers card.

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Dharma and everyone,

The final correspondence in Karen's system is between Hx 63 Chi Chi (After Completion) and XXI Le Monde (The World).

Both Hx 63 and The World card have a sense of completion. They are both about success and order.

Hx 63 gives a word of warning about the future because things can never stay the same. I find it useful to add this slightly cautious tone to the otherwise totally positive meaning of The World card when it appears in a Tarot reading.

Thanks for staying with this thread.

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Mick
 

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Hi Mick,
This is interesting to analyze.
I totally agree with the
Magician correlating to #1 Creative
and I never would have associated
Hierophant with #9 Restraint but when I think of the function of the Pope, I have to agree it is a brilliant association.
Hermit: #43 Breakthrough I can see a real connection here.

Death #34 Great Power, I can't really get, Mainly because 34 is so much about operating within the status quo in order to have an effect.
Star: #26:Stored Potential. Yes, because the Star is opportunity but the Star is usually so much more than just potential. It would almost seem to be that you could switch 34 for star and 26 for Death.

Sphere #2
High Priestess #29 Danger; yes, I would have thought the Moon for 29 but I can see some relationship here too.
Lovers: #59 Dispersion. I don't know about this one, it doesn't ring to me. Why not 30? 32? or 31? Or even 38 or 53?
Wheel of Fortune: #47 Exhaustion-- I would think 49 Revolution here? Hanged man seems more like 47 to me.
Temperance: #40 Deliverance; this one works.
Moon: #4 Folly. I don't know, I would be inclined to give the Fool to #4.

Sphere #3
Empress: #2 Devotion. The general interpretation of the Empress would be like #2 but on a metaphysical level, I would see it differently.
Chariot: #46 Rising. Yes, goals are a strong association here in both.
Justice: #19: I am not sure here. Justice is more like #56. We think of 56 as travel but 56 is more about lawsuits. So is 55. I would give Justice #55 Abundance.
Devil: #24 Return. I don't know, I would give the Devil to 44 because if feels like temptation to me.
Sun: #15 Modesty. I would have given Temperance to 15. The Sun feels more like 46 Rising to me.

Sphere #4
Emperor: #30 Clinging, I think the Lovers belongs here with 30. Emperor would be more like #6; conflict with 13 and 45 or even 8 cause of the focus of a central leader worthy to lead.
Strength: #50 Cauldron. I would be more inclined to give strength to hex 3, difficulty at the beginning.
Hanged Man #38 Opposition. The hermit seems more like 47 exhaustion to me but 38 works too.
Tower: #21 I can see 21 and 51 both here.
Judgement: #56 Travelling doesn't seem to fit because Judgement is such a positive card, I would think it would be more like 11, peace on earth or grace 22.
The world seems like 63 completion and/or 24 return.
I see the Fool as 64, because you can see 64 as the beginning of the ICHING, the moment before incarnation "before the end" can also be the beginning of a whole journey. We think of 64 as 'almost over' but I am not so sure.
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