I Ching, You Ching, We Ching... The Almighty The Almighty Fortune Telling System

[nahalie m]

Hi Water on earth,

Sorry for late feedback, I have been away for the last few weeks. Thank you for replying to my question.

To answer your question, the book is about yi jing but we're not the authors, only in charge with the translation/editing work and we've added to the original content to make the material more accessible to the general reader. Circumstances make it possible to either publish it ourselves or give it to a publisher to reach a larger audience. I understand from your analysis that the publisher option should be considered earnestly.

I add a couple of comments or questions below.

4+2+20= 26/8= 2 = ☱
26 + 9 = 35/8 = 3 = ☲
35/6 = 5 Changing line is (Green Dragon moving – the best of luck)

I rejoice at that. Wondering what branch was bearing the green tiger I found out that :

• the 5th line also bears the shen branch that's void at the time of reading,

• the 5th line is Parents line moving to Parents line from you (that's void) to shen.

Parents is often regarded as written documents, contracts and it being a void line moving to another void line I wondered if this would mean that we can not actually go all the way down the author/publisher's process and sign the contract?

Checking branches of months to come I then wondered if to make the best of it we should hand over the work during the month of chen (because it combines to you) in a day when you is strong but not expect anything to happen before shen month when hopefully shen regains enough strength to come ou of void. Looking at this line of thinking it feels like a bit of a desperate move or ...? I can also imagine that this may be an irrelevant line of thinking as the first intention when doing the reading was not to consider any other approach but plum blossom numerology.

You can see that ☲ fire is your book, and ☱ line 5 is changing to ☳ wood, line 5 is also a big man (publisher) with Green Dragon moving that is a great help to you and Wood help lit up your book - Fire. Therefore, using external help is the best that would help you to have an explosive success. (If you run across any publisher name means Rich, Reward, Crown, or Wood that would be your lucky publisher).

Thank you for pointing out, it doesn't come to mind right now but I'll check and also see their logo. In the same line of thinking could it point to a well-established publisher or any publisher selling in numbers as opposed to a niche publisher?

However, you ask me 3 times total, which means you might have to go 2-3 routs in order to get what you want.

That makes sense to me as if we go the publisher way we'll get in touch with a few of them, not just one. And I expect the reactions will be very different from one to another as I've already met some of them in the past and know they have different views.

The last time you ask, also very good Hexagrams. It said that you would have everything your way. It is much better than you had imagined.

That would be hexagrams 45/53/8 with line 4 moving, is this correct? In this case we don't worry that the middle hexagram is all wood?

I am very happy for you. I wish my prediction were perfectly correct.

I thank you for your kind wishes and will give feedback when we have any.

Would you please let me know what your book is about? Does it have any meaning with the 3 Hexagrams above?

In a way the book is revolutionary (49) because it brings matter in the open that was not made available before to the public it's intended for. It certainly changes the reader's approach radically. And no doubt it enlightens him.
The information is profuse (55) and given in a generous way.
I don't know how hex. 44 comes into play. The only thing that comes to mind is the close connexion between the author and the translator who happen to both match pretty well the trigramm qualities of hex 44. Can't see however how and if relevant this is.

Again, thank you for your insight :bows:

 

[water 0n earth]

The past few days I was so free, since I gave away my website Tuvilyso.org to a charity group. Nothing in this world is our because we cannot take it with us when we die! Even the air we breath is not our, but since we breath in we said it is our; the truth is we just borrow it. With this philosophy, I was so happy to give my website away!

Since then, I have too much time to contemplate about my Numerology System and I want to try it on Forex Trading to see how it works. I downloaded the Meta Trader 4 Demo and used a Demo $5000.00 to try it out.

On May 23rd I followed the market on its down trend, and on the 24th at Dog hour (20:30) I consulted an Oracle: How is the EUR/USD at this hour up or down? (Keep in mind every hour of I Ching equal two hours of our). The lunar calendar is April 5th as of the year of the Water Dragon, Month = Wood Snake, Day = Wood Chicken, Hour = Fire Dog. So my reading was:

☵ > ☲ > ☵
☰ > ☱ > ☴ line 1 is changing

Hexagram 5 is named 需 (xū), "Attending", "waiting", softening, no force... changing to Hexagram 48 is named 井 (jǐng), "Welling", meditating, standing still, contemplating, no moving...

It means that the market will not moving up or down that much, no need to sell or buy. Anyone should stay put! I did not doing anything and actually the prediction was correct (You can go to FOREX website to check it out).

At 23:05 PM I thought the market might change then I did another reading as:

☵ > ☶ > ☵
☱ > ☳ > ☳ line 2 is changing

Hexagram 60 is named 節 (jié), "Articulating", "limitation", "moderation", subtracting, lessing, losing, going down... Changing to "Sprouting", "difficulty at the beginning", "gathering support", trying to move up...

It means that the market trying to go up but at the end will go down instead. Since having this prediction I used Fibonacci Retracement and see that it should bounce to 23.6% which is at 1.2602 but I want to be on a safe sell, I set it 1 lot at 1.25890 and a stop loss at 1.26990 and went to sleep.

This morning woke up and found that it went up to 1.26050 and I get the short at 1.25890 and It was down to the lowest 1.24950, which I should get almost 100 pibs. However, I did not set my goal there that is why the game is still on and at that time around 8:00 am at 1.25300.

Right after that I did another reading to see would it go up or go down some more at the end of Friday? Again I have:

☶ > ☷ > ☶
☳ > ☷ > ☱ line 2 is changing

Hexagram 27 is named 頤 (yí), "Swallowing", "the corners of the mouth (providing nourishment), sicking, weakening, or resting time.... The inner trigram is ☳ (震 zhèn) shake = (雷) thunder, and its outer trigram is ☶ (艮 gèn) bound = (山) mountain. Thunder inner want to move up, make stronger, but Mountain outer as a barrier push it down. Changing Hexagram 41 is named 損 (sǔn), "Diminishing", "decrease", going down...

It means that the market is weakening, trying to nourish to get back its strength but at the end of the day it will go down some more. So I keep it, after that I could win 75 pibs but I keep it anyway to see what is the actual result. As of this moment 1:06 pm in Houston at 1.25206

Basically I believe my I Ching Numerology Sytem can predict the actual Forex or Stock in reality, and it would be much more accurate in short term trading! However, if we use to make money then our greed might change our stability and our clear vision, which would lead to loses.

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

At 2:54 PM in Houston, I set to take profit at 1.24890 and we should see how low it would be when the market close.

This is a good case study and we should learn it together.

If you guys should have some actual trading want to check it out, let's check it out at this topic.

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

This is what we have when the market closed:

Open Trades:
Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Price Commission R/O Swap Trade P/L
15303331 2012.05.25 11:11 sell 1.00 eurusd 1.25890 0.00000 1.24890 1.25193 -7.00 0.00 697.00
-7.00 0.00 697.00
Floating P/L: 690.00

Working Orders:
Ticket Open Time Type Size Item Price S / L T / P Market Price
No transactions

A/C Summary:
Previous Ledger Balance: 5 000.00 Floating P/L: 690.00
Closed Trade P/L: 0.00 Total Credit Facility: 0.00
Deposit/Withdrawal: 0.00 Equity: 5 690.00
Balance: 5 000.00 Margin Requirement: 629.45
Available Margin: 5 060.55
Best Regards
Accounts Department

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Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

Today after the Forex market open suddenly there a big shilft to 1.25714 from 1.25193, immediately I did another reading. The 8th day in the 4 month of lunar calendar at the monkey hour I had the Hexagrams as following:

☰ > ☴ > ☰
☱ > ☳ > ☳ line 2 is changing

Hexagram 10 is named 履 (lǚ), "Treading", "continuing", moving forward, go ahead… If incase the meaning is not clear that the market will go up, we can use the inverse pair of Hex 10 is Hex 9 to make clear of Hexagram 10. Hexagram 9 is named 小畜 (xiǎo chù), "Small Accumulating”, "small harvest", is compare to big accumulating or big harvest means that the market will go up. The support Gua Hexagram 42 is named 益 (yì), "Augmenting", "increase", going up…
And the changing Hexagram 25 is named 無妄 (wú wàng), "Without Embroiling”, "innocence (the unexpected)", no chance, cannot rebel, scarce... However, we did not get a very clear meaning of the market going down, so we use the inverse pair of Hex 25 is Hex Hexagram 26 is named 大畜 (dà chù), "Great Accumulating", "great storage", big increase, going up… the opposite of that means the market try to change but cannot change. It will go back down at the end.

At around 8:20 pm when I start to write about this the market is at 1.25676. Let’s try to forecast by using Fibonacci Retracement to see what is the next possible market price? Is it somewhere at 23.6 like the last time. However, by looking at the CCI Indicator we can tell it will take a dip right after they reach 1.26000 more or less which must be under 126050. So let’s make a sell around that. Which I will do in a little bit after finish this prediction.

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

At around 8:20 pm when I start to write about this the market is at 1.25676. Let’s try to forecast by using Fibonacci Retracement to see what is the next possible market price? Is it somewhere at 23.6 like the last time. However, by looking at the CCI Indicator we can tell it will take a dip right after they reach 1.26000 more or less which must be under 126050. So let’s make a sell around that. Which I will do in a little bit after finish this prediction.

Water 0n Earth

I thought I can read the CCI Indicator for the future but missed about 25 pibs which is at the high of 1.26250. Maybe it is better for us to use Fibonacci Retracement in combination with my I Ching Numerogy System instead.

Up to this point we see that we can predict pretty accurate of a Forex pair as it go up or down. The Forex pair which is like the King Wen pair of Sequence; therefore using the Sequence to know the exact market in the future is needed.

What we need now is to develop a way to predict the actual number of the HIGH or the LOW, then we can use it as a supreme tool for FUTURE Forex. Let's use the latest reading to do that.

☰ > ☴ > ☰
☱ > ☳ > ☳ line 2 is changing

Hexagram 10 is named 履 (lǚ), "Treading", "continuing", moving forward, go ahead… If incase the meaning is not clear that the market will go up, we can use the inverse pair of Hex 10 is Hex 9 to make clear of Hexagram 10. Hexagram 9 is named 小畜 (xiǎo chù), "Small Accumulating”, "small harvest", is compare to big accumulating or big harvest means that the market will go up. The support Gua Hexagram 42 is named 益 (yì), "Augmenting", "increase", going up…
And the changing Hexagram 25 is named 無妄 (wú wàng), "Without Embroiling”, "innocence (the unexpected)", no chance, cannot rebel, scarce... However, we did not get a very clear meaning of the market going down, so we use the inverse pair of Hex 25 is Hex Hexagram 26 is named 大畜 (dà chù), "Great Accumulating", "great storage", big increase, going up… the opposite of that means the market try to change but cannot change. It will go back down at the end.

We will use these meaning and the DESIGNATED NUMBER of the Gua to derive the actual number of a market HIGH OR LOW.

☰ (1) > ☴ (5) > ☰ (1)
☱ (2) > ☳ (4) > ☳ (4)

Hexagram 10 is named 履 (lǚ), "Treading", "continuing", moving forward, go ahead… So we start at the top of Gua ☰ (1) to ☱ (2) => 1.2; and line 2 changing = 2 straight to changing Gua ☳ (4) => 2 + 4 = 6; then we use the rest as the support numbers. We can either use ☴ (5), ☳ (4) or ☳ (4), ☴ (5) and plus ☰ (1), then we should have 5, 4 +1 => 55, or 4, 5 +1 => 46. However, the meaning of Hexagram 10 is continuing, moving forward, so it should start at a smaller number toward the higher number, so the actual market HIGH should be 1.26246 instead of 1.262550.

The next question is what is the LOWEST when it goes back down?

Well, we should use the same but use the lowest and go back ward instead of going forward. So we start at the top of Gua ☰ (1) to ☱ (2) => 1.2; changing Gua ☳ (4), and the support numbers consist of Gua ☰ (1), ☴ (5), ☳ (4) or ☳ (4), ☴ (5). We should have the LOWSEST at 1.24145 or 1.24154. The Second LOW ☰ (1) to ☱ (2) => ☳ (4) + Gua ☰ (1) and the support numbers of ☴ (5), ☳ (4) or ☳ (4), ☴ (5) and line 2. It should be at 1.25542 or 1.25452.

Just let's wait and see what the next actual LOW of EUR/USD pair will be! This Prediction is done at 8:57 am in Houston.

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

I am not too familiar with Forex Trading Platform, therefore last night I tried to set the sell at 16000 at a market sell price, and it was in at 15898 instead. Luckily we had a right prediction so far, now we are still doing more than OK.

But for my information any tips about FOREX would help, if you guys don't mind please HELP. I do not know FOREX like I CHING!

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

The next question is what is the LOWEST when it goes back down?

Well, we should use the same but use the lowest and go back ward instead of going forward. So we start at the top of Gua ☰ (1) to ☱ (2) => 1.2; changing Gua ☳ (4), and the support numbers consist of Gua ☰ (1), ☴ (5), ☳ (4) or ☳ (4), ☴ (5). We should have the LOWSEST at 1.24145 or 1.24154. The Second LOW ☰ (1) to ☱ (2) => ☳ (4) + Gua ☰ (1) and the support numbers of ☴ (5), ☳ (4) or ☳ (4), ☴ (5) and line 2. It should be at 1.25542 or 1.25452.

Just let's wait and see what the next actual LOW of EUR/USD pair will be! This Prediction is done at 8:57 am in Houston.

Water 0n Earth

Early this morning at 8:30 am I set to take profit at 1.2498 and the first SELL from last week at 1.25490 . I went out to do something and when came back at around 1:00 PM found that the LOW just happened not too long before that at 1.24606. We were just a few pibs short! So I have time to recalculate to see what would be the price we can win from the last reading. We would use the same adding but instead of 1.24590 we don't have to use the number 1 from the upper trigram ☰ of the changing Hex. Then use the rest of the number 5, 4 and line 2 to come up with the amount we should win. So I set it at 1.2452 and sit to wait for the out come since 5:14 PM. I start writing this post at 9:15 hopefully we should hit the set point soon tonight.

Forex is the most boring game to watch. We need to change the way we play after this case is ended to win much more and make this game more fun and exciting so we can learn more!

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

Alright guys, so we started the first sell on the 25th at 11:11 PM with the set point I have said earlier and the second sell on the 28th. Sometime at 1:00 am last night it hit the set points and now the account was loading with $7,680.40 after the Commission and Swap. We profit $2680.40 from only 2 trades. I wish this is real money!!! :bows:

Though we predicted that the LOWEST price would be 1.24145 or 1.24154 and the actual LOW up to this point is 1.24239 based on Forex.com, which is different only about 9 pibs. I think that is acceptable to everyone. Need not to say that it might go down to the number we predicted but the game is already over. Why bother?

Let's start to play the new way to reduce the boring waiting time with lower winning pibs. This should make the game more exciting since we can do several trades a day within 30-50 pibs. By doing this we should have more predictions, more Hexs, and less time to find out if we are wrong or right so we can learn faster. And keep in mind that every time we do our predictions we should be able to predict 3 things:

1. The market trend up or down
2. The HIGH and LOW
3. The total pibs we should win

Our goal is to make sure the predictions are 70% correct, if it is under that then we must think about it! Do not worry if we are wrong but do worry if we don't know why we are wrong!!!

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

Sorry I made a mistake the set point hit sometime at 2:45 am last night not at 1:00 am, and the first sell is on the 24th not 25th.

Also I forgot to mention again the set point to take profit is at 1.24542.

(I need some coffee)

 

[water 0n earth]

Today (may/30 at 8:59 am) is the day of the Cat (Rabbit) at the hour of the Dragon, I want to know within the next few hours the EUR/USD will go up or down? We have the Hexs as following:

☳ > ☱ > ☳
☰ > ☰ > ☴ line 1 is changing

Hexagram 34 is named 大壯 (dà zhuàng), "Great Invigorating", "the power of the great", "great maturity", growing big, growing tall, going up...
Hexagram 28 is named 大過 (dà guò), "Great Exceeding". Other variations include "preponderance of the great", "great surpassing", too big, too high, too strong, going up...
Hexagram 32 is named 恆 (héng), "Persevering", "duration", "constancy", old time, long time, take time...

It means that the market will go up strongly within the next few hours. The fact is it should be like that for the whole day today to another 5 days; however, our question is for the next few hours, so let's stick with that. We see that ☰ (1) is changing to ☴ (5), it should be from 1-5 hours, or if we add it together we should have a total of within 6 hours for the market to go up as predicted.

How many pips we can win?

There are 3 ways to answer this: 1. add all the Gua together and plus the changing line, 2. using the changing Gua , 3. using the changing line itself.

Since it is great moving force we only use 1 and 2, not 3.

1. ☳ (4), ☱ (2), ☳ (4) ☰ (1) ☰ (1) ☴ (5) = 15 and plus line 2 = 17.

We should win between 15-17 pips for the high is between 150 to 170 pips, if we play through the days (which we will not do, but we can keep tract for our records)

2. Adding the changing Gua ☰ (1) is changing to ☴ (5)

We should win between 15 (combine 1 and 5) to 50 pips (using 5 as the number itself and higher than 15 should be 50).

What price should we use to buy at?

At the moment of the reading at 1.24262, by the time I try to set the buying price it went down to 1.24064 and back up to 1.24187, so I set it at 1.24100 as predicted.

We come up with the buying price because of the changing Gua ☰ (1) as 100 to 1.24(100) to win at 1.2450. Which we will set to take profit at 1.2445 to be on a safe win!

Now let's see what the outcome will be.

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

What did we learn from the readings and from this game?

Well, for me, within one week I have learned a massive amount from these readings and this game, but to name a few for now.

1. Should not play when tire, lack of sleep, or not feeling good
2. Do not be over confident or greedy to win
3. DO NOT do the READING when there is no sudden impact of feeling/triggering and lack of peaceful mind and concentration. (Do not use it as a mechanical software without feeling).
4. When do the reading but THE HEAR, THE SEE, and THE FEEL is not in use, do not play.
5. Do the reading thoroughly and if not quite sure then just wait to see if the market is similar to the prediction and then play. We should not worry what goes up has to come down and vice versa. That would make us win a little less but no attachment.
6. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY ATTACHEMENT IN THIS GAME. WE SHOULD TREAT IT LIKE NONE OF OUR BUSINESS SO WE CAN BE AS NEUTRAL AND CLEAR AS POSSIBLE!!!

(I made all 6 mistakes from the last trade)​

From the first reading:
☵ > ☶ > ☵
☱ > ☳ > ☳ line 2 is changing

Changing Gua ☱ (2) ☳ (4) = 6 days, we started at 11:11 PM and get the sell at some time after 12:00 am, and it was sold on the 30th at a very early morning which is on the 6th day.

We can also see that if we add the main Upper Hex ☵ (6), ☱ (2) and the changing Gua ☳ (4) = 14 => 1,400 but Hexagram 60 is named 節 (jié) also means subtracting, so we get 1,340 which make sense. (We are talking about something already happened, in order to have a correct prediction at the time of the reading we must FEEL, SEE, or HEAR that number because in a Gua there could be many different numbers not just one).

Just as the reading from yesterday:
☳ > ☱ > ☳
☰ > ☰ > ☴ line 1 is changing

We see that at the time I FEEL the number at the time as:
☳ (4), ☱ (2), ☳ (4) ☰ (1) ☰ (1) ☴ (5) = 15 and plus line 2 = 17.

How funny it is that it took about 17 hours to begin going up and at the HIGH 1.24294 which I was wanting to sell at the moment to get out, which would give me more or less of 17 pips or $170. However, I changed my mind at the time. Now look back I think that is what predestined for this trade.

However, now I am attaching to this trade, I will buy some more trades at the buy and sell by market without pre-calculation to see what should be the total pips of win or lose as predestination.

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

From the original trade led us into a total of four.

1. Last night at 12:46 PM I sold the third trade of two lots bought at 1.23357 and sold at 1.23645.
2. This morning at around 7:30 AM the market went very hectic the main trade was sold at 1.23100 which was set at stop loss of 100 pips we lost 1,000 and 5.76 Swap.
3. At 8:19 AM since the market was very hectic I try to sell the fourth trade of two lots at to win 550, but I was not fast enough it went right down to 440. So I had the mouse rest on the MARKET SELL button and went to make a cup of coffee. My computer has a time out it triggered the SELL button, when I came back and turned on the computer found that it was done by fate. The trade bought at 1.23331 and sold at 1.23503. (Otherwise, we might have won 150-170)
4. At 8:30 AM I got to go to an appointment and will not be able to have access of my computer until in the afternoon when the market would then be closed; therefore, I have to close all trade. So at 8:26 AM the last trade of 1 lot bought at 1.23754 and sold at 1.23892 minus 1.44 Swap.

I am looking at the platform Account History to do the report since they have not sent me the report yet and find a very amazing issue:

PROFIT/LOSS: 8.80

Since the commission is included in the win or loss trade so does not show on the platform record. Now if we add the Swap: 5.76 + 1.44 = 7.20 + 8.80 = 16 and that fall in between the predicted numbers 15-17. That is the total win of all the four trades. Does the number 16 was determined by FATE to be the number between 15 and 17!!!

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

On June 3rd, 2012 at 17:30 (90 minutes after the market has opened), which is the 15 day of the 4 month of lunar at the Chicken hour.

☷ => ☷ => ☳
☱ => ☳ => ☱ line 4 is changing

Hexagram 19 is named 臨 (lín), "Nearing", "approach", "the forest", giant, grand, great, start, beginning, head, president, head of the household, head of the company, neighboring…

Hexagram 24 is named 復 (fù), "Returning", repeat, comeback, old way, ambush, betray

Hexagram 54 is named 歸妹 (guī mèi), "Converting the Maiden", "the marrying maiden", "returning maiden", complicating, confusing, inserting, wavering, downward… Since Hexagram 53 is named 漸 (jiàn), "Infiltrating", "development (gradual progress)", "advancement", stairway to heaven, slowly go up the stairway…
That makes Hexagram 54 means going down kind of fast…

From the Hex we can say that at the beginning of the market open the EUR/USD pair going down kind of fast. From the opening at 1.2444 down to 1.23852 of about 60 pips in only 4 hours.

We can see that ☷ line 4 is changing to ☳ (4), Kun is resting and after the market closed (resting) on Friday reopen today and within 4 hours the EUR/USD going down 60 pips just like that. However, ☳ means moving up, and Hexagram 24 is comeback; also Hex 54 is inserting, so the market should have some upward movements.

We should place a SELL at 1.24200 based on ☷ (8) line 4 changing > ☳ (4) ☱ (Lower Trigram of changing Hexagram) = 1242 => 1.24200.

From the total number of all trigrams and the changing line = 28-32, and changing ☷ (8) line 4 changing > ☳ (4) = 84 pips. Also 8 + 4 =12, but for this time we do not want that, so we disregard that. We should win that in 8-12 hours to 32 hours or the longest is 4 days. We will set TAKING PROFIT AT 32 pips, if within 8-12 hours or within 32 hours we do not get 28-32 pips then we will move it to 84 pips.

Let’s play it and wait to see what will be the outcome. (This prediction is finished at 10:44 PM)

Water 0n Earth

PS. This post is also based on the experience of the last trades from:

☳ > ☱ > ☳
☰ > ☰ > ☴ line 1 is changing

Hexagram 34 is named 大壯 (dà zhuàng), "Great Invigorating", "the power of the great", "great maturity", growing big, growing tall, going up...
Hexagram 28 is named 大過 (dà guò), "Great Exceeding". Other variations include "preponderance of the great", "great surpassing", too big, too high, too strong, going up...
Hexagram 32 is named 恆 (héng), "Persevering", "duration", "constancy", old time, long time, take time..

Meaning that it take long time for the market to be up like it use to be (I do that it can come back before 17 days from the date we did the reading).

 

[water 0n earth]

About 2 hour ago when I checked the EUR/USD pair and found that for some reason my 100 pips of Stop Loss was taken off. It might be when I set the Take Profit last night and did something wrong. Now the market price is above that 100 pips so I have to wait for it to come back down to set a 100 pips loss for a fair game. It is a loss and a wrong prediction and it need to be transparent, nothing to hide. Like I have said before, “we can hide from everybody but we cannot hide it from ourselves”.

Besides that I also found from the last reading and this one from what I had written, I did not ask the question for the EUR/USD pair itself. It was that when I turn on the platform at certain time, look at the market and use that hour to form the Hexagrams automatically, without any question. No question, no answer! That’s right! No wonder yesterday, I FELT in my gut the market will go up but since the market went down at start and by the look at the Hexagrams I was predetermined that the meaning of the downtrend market, and it took me from 5:30 PM to 10:44 PM, over 5 hours to try to make the connection. Let’s frankly look at the meaning of the Hexagrams from the meaning I, myself provided:

☷ => ☷ => ☳
☱ => ☳ => ☱ line 4 is changing

Hexagram 19 is named 臨 (lín), "Nearing", "approach", "the forest", giant, grand, great, start, beginning, head, president, head of the household, head of the company…

Hexagram 24 is named 復 (fù), "Returning", repeat, comeback, old way, ambush, betray

Hexagram 54 is named 歸妹 (guī mèi), "Converting the Maiden", "the marrying maiden", "returning maiden", complicating, confusing, inserting, and wavering, downward…

The Hexagram 19 and Hexagram 54 do mean going down kind of fast… at the beginning or at first; however, Hexagram 19 also have the meaning of GIANT, GRANT, GREAT…, and Hexagram 24 is returning, comeback… Finally, the Hexagram 54 from its original meaning of “returning” itself.

However, since I had predetermined about the downward market, became a fanatic, and resent everything even THE SEE, THE HEAR AND THE FEEL. I even try to use the last reading to back it up because that is the only thing I can get a hold of. What a BIAS. To sum it up in a short sentence:

I made the mistake not MY SYSTEM!

It just a game and I could not pass the PREDETERMINATION stage, what if it was involving with the real money???

It is time for me to sit back and meditate on that. We will continue the game after I finish what I need to do!

Since I have been waiting for 4 hours but it does not go down to 100 pips, so I closed it and take a loss of 1042.12 included 1.92 Swap.

 

[water 0n earth]

Since the 4th to the 10th, that is almost a week. It is a lot of time for me since I spent about 16-18 hours a day for 2 days (5th-6th) to sit back and think of a better way to get a more accurate answer on the Forex market, or to come up with a more constructive question to get a more pinpoint answer. Luckily I have found one, and put it to use for the past 3 times and I was right on all three occasions; however, that might be just my luck. I think it is best to put it in use for the next 10 predictions to see how accurate it is. In case if it need to be fine tune then we will fine tune it.

The question for the Forex in the next 1-7 days:

From 1.23092 - 1.27083 where should the market price will be?( 6/10/12 4:35 PM)

At the time of the question the market price is more or less of 1.26600.

☶ > ☷ > ☲
☷ > ☲ > ☲ Line 4 is changing

PREDICTION: It will be lowest at more or less of 1.25690 (within 20 pips)! [This number likely to occur in 1 day or 24 hours, and it should never go up to 1.2800 with in that time]

In reality, after some past experiences we should wait for it to go up some more, maybe 1.2700 or close to it before we set a sell to have a bigger win. Even if we cannot achieve that and the market price go down to 1.25690 or close to it, we know that we are correct, and we should have a sure win.

In case for any reason the market goes down too rapidly and never come back to where we had set a SELL, then let’s be patient and do the next reading. Start it all over and we will get a sure win with ZERO chance to lose!

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

PS. I forgot to mention that within the next 24 hours the market will be in between 1.26400 < > 1.25690 and 1.25690 is the lowest. This is a very important point in this kind of prediction.

 

[water 0n earth]

How funny it is, since 15 hour after I did the reading the market is between 1.26490 < > 1.25271, the lowest point is about 40 pips lower than my prediction. That is 120 pips. Maybe we need to fine tune it a little bit more. I will think about it.

One correct, 9 more to go!

Water 0n Earth

PS. Please keep in mind we always do EUR/USD pair only.

 

[water 0n earth]

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Look at the link above on the first and second trades from the bottom we can see the experiments I did from the 6th to the 10th of this month. The last trade is what I have done after I wrote that I have found the way from the last post but I could not get the sell set the way I wanted to. So I wanted to try another one.
The question for the Forex in the next 1-7 days:
From 1.22500 - 1.27500 where should the market price be? (6/12/2012, 18:42)
☷ > ☷ > ☶
☱ > ☳ > ☱ Line 6 is changing

At that time I predicted the price of the EUR/USD will be at about 1.27500 because line 6 is changing and Hexagram 19 means the head, the top, great, giant… Hexagram 41 means decreasing… At the time of my question the price is at around 1.25000 because the changing Hex would be decreasing a little bit more that does not make much different. I set it at 1.24900 anyway since from that to 1.27500 are 260 pips away. It may take a week to be there, it is not something I can prove right away, and also I was not fully believing in my SYSTEM 100% yet. I went ahead and use it as an experiment. I wanted to be on the safe win by set TAKE PROFIT at 1.27200 as everybody can see it was reaching 1.27488. (I was right 4 out of 4 experiments, but let’s not count that since I did not predict that in front of everybody).

Now, I believe using MY SYSTEM to predict FOREX would get 70%-90% of correction and that percentage is doable if the person use it is clear, calm, patient and understand the meaning of the Hexagrams. I Ching is never wrong but we make wrong prediction all the time, it is because of us not I Ching.

I will do 9 more tests to see how far we can get!

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

Today June 18, 2012 at 13:15 P.M. suddenly I found that the EUR/USD price is down from 1.27488 to 1.25564, almost 200 pips. Immediately I do the reading to see where the market will be in the next 7 days and should we trade. We have the Hexagrams as following:

☲ > ☵ > ☳
☱ > ☲ > ☱ line 6 is changing

The question is: From 1.25400 to 1.27500 where should the market be in the next 7 days?

Hexagram 38 is named 睽 (kuí), "Polarizing", "opposition", "perversion", rebound …

At 13:29 o’clock the price of EUR/USD is about 1.25800 and the prediction will be at around 1.2700- 1.2750 or higher, but to be on the safe win and no chance to lose we will lower it down to 1.25600 and set a BUY option there. We then set at 1.24600 for STOP LOSS and at 1.27250 for TAKE PROFIT or we will take something close to it at the market price if we have to.

For any reason the market goes up too rapidly and never come back down to where we want it to be, then we know the prediction is correct. Let’s be patient and do the next reading. Start it all over and we will get a sure win with ZERO chance to lose!

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

Amazingly after about 21 hours from the time of my reading the EUR/USD at the HIGH of 1.27094 and we set TAKE PROFIT at 1.27250 which is about 16 pips different.

I am right again! It is 2 down 8 more to go.

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

Today July 5, 2012 at 10:25 AM I set a buy at 1.2385, Stop Loss at 1.2285 since the market is at its Low. Asking what is the market price of EUR/USD will be? I have the Hexagram as following:

☲ > ☱ > ☲
☰ > ☰ > ☱ Line 3 is changing

Great possession changing to spring, release, it should be up soon.

Line 3 is expected the price would be the lowest of 1.2480-1.25300, it might be higher because of the meaning of Great Possession.

Water 0n Earth

 

[water 0n earth]

I fail this time!

Let's say after 3 times I get only 67% correct.

I think it is time for me to stop this game for now since I have paid all my attention to finish my Mei Hua Yi Shu book. Hopefully two more months I will comeback to play this game again, but the next time if we will play this game again, I will deposit $2,000 USD to start with. I will use real money to prove my point.

Water 0n Earth

 

[dharmamom]

Hi, water 0n earth!
I just wanted to ask you if for Plum Blossom bibliography, do you prefer "The Tao of I Ching" or Da Liu's "I Ching numerology"? Da Liu subtracts 8 and 6 instead of dividing and using the remainder. You seem to use the other method, also used by Sherrill and Chu (they use the Chinese lunar calendar). But I read on a feng shui about the fallacy of using only dates to cast the trigrams, since apparently by not including words you reduce the choice of hexagrams available to you.
I'm new to plum blossom and look forward to reading your book, but till then I'd like to know this. Thank you.

 

[cjgait]

Okay, theory, fair enough, but let's just get something straight: have you been able to predict horse races and other similar events with accuracy greater than can be accounted for by chance?

I would say, no. But if you have empirical evidence, please present it. You could, for instance, avoid the 'fog of greed' by predicting sporting event outcomes here before they are played and then demonstrating you were right afterward.

That should be a simple test, and I look forward to your results.

I have great admiration and affection for Master Shao Yong, but I think that most of the tales about him, the fate of the lamp, etc., are just that...tales.

The Yi points the way, but it is a compass, not a GPS.


Regards,
Chris Gait

Hi Bostonian,

Thank you for bringing up your issue and concern.

I could not agree more on some of your issues but not all, such as being able to predict horse race results, stock prices, but not the mega lottery numbers. The horse races, stock prices are based on 1 choice to win, and you can use a predetermined question like: “Would I win a horse bet or a stock today? Let's say the prediction answer yes, then the next question "at what round, or what time” should be asked? You should have cast a Hexagram at the time you ask the first question. If The I Ching Numerology predict you win, play; otherwise, don’t. On the other hand, with Mega Lottery you can ask the kind of question like horse race or a stock and do the same kind of reading. And from that reading you can go to a step further by asking: “How many tickets I have to buy, in order to win”? Yes, questions like that can be predicted, but we cannot predict the out come of the number. Why? With my method, you can get 2-3 numbers the most, but it has to be less than 8. Therefore, nobody can predict the outcome of the Mega Lottery. However, I am trying to develop the reading for pick 3 numbers, which has not proven yet. Maybe we would know by the end of this year. Enough said on theory..

 

[cjgait]

Predictions

It is indeed splendid to see results of 67%, but what is missing is a key element of empirical information. To prove accuracy of prediction you need to predict an event to the board that others can verify ahead of time, then announce the results of your prediction when it has occurred. If you can attain 67% success that is very good indeed. That matches the accuracy of Kong Zi as recorded in the Mawangdui material.

 

[1eleven]

Hi Water 0n Earth,
What is the significance of repeating the 0 when you say "Read 600"? Spiritual assistance with this issue?

Thanks

 

[globalex]

Hi water On earth,
Your trip to the carnival is interesting, and shows how the Plum Blossom Numerology being used.

On Saturday March 5th 2011, you took your children to the carnival. Suppose there was a twist in the situation, what would you have done otherwise? For example, let's say at 13.35 pm, you were asked to participate in a Little Piggy Race. There were 29 piglets (instead of 29 containers in your article), with the numbers 1 to 29 marked on their backs.

Questions:
1) Can the Plum Blossom Numerology be used to predict which little piggy comes 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th?
2) If so, what are the calculations and steps involved?
3) How many tickets will you have to buy to win the 1st prize? Any of the 5 prizes?

Regards
globalex

 

[littlebuddha]

I read more than a half of the thread last night and being a systematic person with a thing for methods, i find it mind blowing - the exactness of the suggested divination method, the formulas, all of it; the thing is that for myself i do prefer it this way:

The Yi points the way, but it is a compass, not a GPS.

I don't need to know the exact miles and minutes - i prefer my own life to be an inspired free-styled verse, not a most precisely executed mathematical operation.
That being said, hats off to water 0n earth for the great work he's being doing, accurate or not - there are very few exact & systematical divinatory methods i know of (besides Yi & derivative methods, certain complex cartomancy traditions are actually the only ones i can think of.)