I think I got it wrong!

[mousse]

Hello All,

I'd like to have your insights about something. After several months, I met again this guy. He is charming, smart and all and I was wondering what to do since, I didn't know when I'll have the opportunity to see him again. Friends told me why don't you invite him for a drink. Well, I'm really shy...so I waited and asked the IC what should I do with him?

I received Hex.2. 1.2.3> 11. I thought wow not bad. I shouldn't do anything and wait things will come to me. Everything will be ok. Hex.11 sounded great: peace etc.

Well, thing is the guy has a girlfriend (I can forget him: I won't chase a guy who has a girlfriend). So maybe instead of : Good don't move and he'll come to you, things will be nice between you two. I should have understood. Well don't do a thing, and you'll be peaceful anyway.



How would you have interpreted the IC in that case? Thanks for your insights

Mousse

 

[steve]

I think this situation is deep,,some of the lines talk about ice so yea slippery
i think this is an affair is he mysterious or are you

i dont see any danger with this guy

Steve

 

[mousse]

Hello Steve,

Good question. I don't know if I'm mysterious or not ;-) . I edited my previous post. I wrote it quickly and I wrote the opposite of what I wanted to say (which is I can forget him).

Mousse

 

[arli]

I am sorry to hear your hopes have crushed.

But, I am not quite sure how you derived the "positive meaning" of 2 (1,2,3)...

The first line here is pretty clear, suggesting you to recognize the very first signs of "bad position", failure and predicting an inauspicious development of situation.

The second line is telling you that you should accept the new experience in order to learn how to react in eventually similar future situation ("to learn to accept anything the life is bringing to us").

The third line is giving you a little hope, suggesting that if you persist in your efforts, but quietly and discreetly, you eventually could expect some success...
Well, I am not really prone to interpret this "possitive" line as encouragment, if it comes after two, pretty clear, negative presumption. I rather consider this as the "do it if you really think you have to" comment.

I guess that the hex 11 was the confusing one, which led you to wrong direction.

By my experience, the hex 11 is sometime very delusive, especially if is derived from not very favorable, hexagram (lines).

In such cases the 11 probably mean that you should be in peace with situation (take it as it is) or, in fact, to be in peace with yourself, whatever it take.

Sometime the 11 on such position is suggesting that we should be peaceful (toward unwanted development of situation) or, in particular case, it could mean that you should be happy for what you find (because you have an other life path or because a more significant event or chance is waiting in the front of your door).


One more remark...

I noticed that, since I have been married, the hex 2 (doesn’t matter which line is changeable) usually means that I should "calm down" and give my best not to kill my husband

Earlier, the 2 used to warn me that the efforts I am supposed to do, in order to win somebody’s hart, would show, long term, useless. Of course, it take me some time (and cost me some failures ) to understand the message.

 

[mousse]

Hello Arli,

Thanks a lot for your insight. Very helpful. I saw hex.2 as positive because Karcher wrote. But I guess I was totally wrong and when I thought about it later today, I thought: yes, peace. I should be in peace with myself.That's it!

Thank you for sharing your experience about hex 2. It is nice to know what others experienced in various circumstances.

I was wondering you had any experience with Hex.9 and hex.14. Once again a relationship question I know . This is about a man I really like and who is out of my life right now. I wish he'd be back. A few weeks back I asked the IC, what if I keep hoping for a relationship with him?

I received 9.4.5> 14.

Any insights about that?

Thank you.

Mousse

 

[willowfox]

I received Hex.2. 1,2, 3 > 11

The situation seems like it will get nowhere so the best thing to do is just be yourself, do nothing, just carry on looking pretty and eventually this guy is going to notice.

 

[Tony_L]

Earlier, the 2 used to warn me that the efforts I am supposed to do, in order to win somebody’s hart, would show, long term, useless. Of course, it take me some time (and cost me some failures ) to understand the message.

Arti,

Could you explain this remark a bit more or give an example? I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean that even if you did what you thought you should have done to promote the relationship, nothing worked out in the end?

Thanks,

Tony

 

[Trojina]

I received Hex.2. 1.2.3> 11. I thought wow not bad. I shouldn't do anything and wait things will come to me. Everything will be ok. Hex.11 sounded great: peace etc.

Well, thing is the guy has a girlfriend (I can forget him: I won't chase a guy who has a girlfriend). So maybe instead of : Good don't move and he'll come to you, things will be nice between you two. I should have understood. Well don't do a thing, and you'll be peaceful anyway.



How would you have interpreted the IC in that case? Thanks for your insights

Mousse

I think you got it right in your initial interpretation here. I don't think the answer encourages action on your part as in asking him out etc. Doing nothing just being pretty sounds like a good option though. If good things come they come, if they don't you'll still be peaceful - yes I think you got it right this first time

 

[mousse]

I received Hex.2. 1,2, 3 > 11

The situation seems like it will get nowhere so the best thing to do is just be yourself, do nothing, just carry on looking pretty and eventually this guy is going to notice.

Hello Willowfox,

I thank you for the help. Would you have any interpretation for Hex.9.4.5>14 ? (in my reply above).

Thanks :bows:

Mousse

 

[mousse]

I think you got it right in your initial interpretation here. I don't think the answer encourages action on your part as in asking him out etc. Doing nothing just being pretty sounds like a good option though. If good things come they come, if they don't you'll still be peaceful - yes I think you got it right this first time

Hello Trojan,

So I'm not THAT bad with the Yi uh? We'll see what happens but since he is in a relationship, I won't do anything except trying to be pretty and wait.

Thanks a lot :bows:

Mousse

 

[willowfox]

I asked the IC, what if I keep hoping for a relationship with him?

I received 9.4.5> 14.

A positive answer.

 

[mousse]

Thanks. That's what I thought. We'll see if it happens. I think I'll have to be patient with this guy ;-)

Mousse

 

[arli]

Hello Arli,

Thanks a lot for your insight. Very helpful. I saw hex.2 as positive because Karcher wrote. But I guess I was totally wrong and when I thought about it later today, I thought: yes, peace. I should be in peace with myself.That's it!

Thank you for sharing your experience about hex 2. It is nice to know what others experienced in various circumstances.

I was wondering you had any experience with Hex.9 and hex.14. Once again a relationship question I know . This is about a man I really like and who is out of my life right now. I wish he'd be back. A few weeks back I asked the IC, what if I keep hoping for a relationship with him?

I received 9.4.5> 14.

Any insights about that?

Thank you.

Mousse

Hello Mousse,

When I look at hexagrams, I first try to get the big picture and then I read the lines, to find the details.

So I did with 9 - 14 hexagrams. The final result might be positive, but it requires you to change your approach and/or attitude.

Hex 9 (by my experience) always indicate that I should hold back and restrain my (usually enormous) need to react - to restrain my feelings, my opinion, my anger, my fear... for some, usually short period (few hours or few days).

The changing lines in hex 9 are telling me what should I do while waiting, or how should I try to reconsider the whole situation.

So, by my opinion, the changing 4. line suggest you to be honest with yourself, at any cost. It also warns you that the truth you probably will discover could hurt you or could lead you in direction you didn’t even think about.

The changing line 5. suggest activity, but warns about your attitude - you should open your eyes and be objective, helpful, supportive... toward your own needs or toward somebody else needs or action, depends on question. In any case, it warns about possibility that there are some presumption or prejudices or ideals you should reconsider before you take any action (decision).

The hex 14 is "the result" which, in general, is very positive, but the result you can gain only if you hear the advices from 4,5 lines.

By simple words, probably there are some facts about this person, facts you ignored or you couldn’t accept or you just couldn’t note... Maybe this person is in some way specific or he need to be better understood...maybe you should change your approach to him...

 

[mousse]

Hello Arli,

Thank you so much. I had a lot of time to think about the situation between us. I know I made some mistakes with him and I also know there are things I don't know about him. Well, he doesn't like to talk about himself, what he feels etc. Thing is, I don't know what to do with him, how to act. I gave it a lot of thoughts and I still don't know.

I'll keep thinking about the situation and what to do about that, how to approach him.

Thanks again,

Mousse

 

[arli]

Arti,

Could you explain this remark a bit more or give an example? I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean that even if you did what you thought you should have done to promote the relationship, nothing worked out in the end?

Thanks,

Tony

Hi Tony,

(I hoped my English is more understandable )

But, yes, you’ve got my point.

There were some situations when I was asking questions about very personal relationship (usually at the very beginning of it or before anything really has happened) - the questions like: "how could it work" or "how can I make it work better", or "how should I behave to be noticed"...or "is there any chance for..."... You know, all that desperate love-questions which one woman can ask ....

And, the hex 2 was, almost always, the message that I should lose my spine entirely in order to reach the particular person. Of course, I concluded this later, after making (repeatedly) countless, unsuccessfuly compromises.

But, as I mentioned, these are my experiences. Such advices simply are not in harmony with my character. My personality is not very receptive one, not in personal relationships or better - not in any conditions and at any cost.

From here we can speak about other question - are the advices we get from The Book "obligatory" or we can choose and just say "thanks, it’s not my cup of tea"?

I prefer the second answer, because I believe that The Book is giving us the possible scenario, sometime it points out the only way to do something... and we have to choose and to consider if the aim is worth the effort.

Since I think that to much compromises in love relationship, made by one side, (we can call it "being responding" or "being receptive") usually lead to mutual unsatisfaction, I consider the hex 2 very unfavorable.
Of course, there are some exception, some specific situations, where, for objective reasons, being receptive is necessary (like long-distance relationship, illness etc.)

Generally speaking, I consider the hex 2 rare as favorable, but it is very valuable because it exactly points out how hard effort we should make in order to gain something. And, such insight is maybe most important when the question is about personal issues.