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Hello everyone. Havent been for a while but would like some comments on the so called 'Indigo'
people/children please, if anyone would like to offer some. I have been reading about 'Indigo'/autism and asked 'Y' a few questions -
1. Your thoughts on Indigo people - Answer Hex 12.2,3 > 44
2. What probability is there of the presence on the earth of Indigo people? Hex 10. 2,6, forgot next Hex
3. ? possibility of there being Indigo people - Hex 45.4 > 8
4. Is 'Indigo' another ' label' for Autism - Hex 28.6 > 44
5. Thoughts please on Autism - Hex 47.4 > 29
6. What is the cause of Autism - 47 UC
7. What is the difference between an Autistic child and an 'Indigo' child Hex 63.3,5 > 45
I have a slightly autistic grandchild and can't decide what, if anything, to believe about so called
'Indigo' Any ideas anyone? My grandchild incidentally is adorable but his parents do find him challenging.
I would be very interested to hear from any of you kind and helpful people. Thankyou in advance.
Meigga:bows: My views are that Autism is most likely caused by the vaccinations that children are forced to endure. :bows:
 

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Your thoughts on Indigo people - Answer Hex 12.2,3 > 44

A questionable theory.

What probability is there of the presence on the earth of Indigo people? Hex 10. 2,6, forgot next Hex

Tread the middle way on this issue and look back at your life - or life in general - to gain perspective.

3. ? possibility of there being Indigo people - Hex 45.4 > 8


Integrate. The middle way, return to unity. Draw together what really belongs to you. Keep it simple.

4. Is 'Indigo' another ' label' for Autism - Hex 28.6 > 44

Going beyond reasonable limits (reflecting 44 of 12). Good intentions misplaced. (If the theory is wrong in the beginning then further questions related to the assumption that it's right will be confusing).

5. Thoughts please on Autism - Hex 47.4 > 29

Comes from an oppression causing a prison of the mind. Very tricky to have the Yi encapsulate what is probably multiple causes - diet, vaccinations, chemicals etc. Or, the Yi is reflecting your own mind in this line of inquiry.

6. What is the cause of Autism - 47 UC

An exhaustion or restriction of some kind. Or, the Yi is reflecting your own mind in this line of inquiry.

All the best to your grandson.
 

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Your thoughts on Indigo people?
12.2,3 > 44


My opinion is that "Indigo people" is a false, irrational, New Age notion, but with just a little connection to objective reality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children

My views are that Autism is most likely caused by the vaccinations that children are forced to endure.

I kept my sister's children and know from personal experience the shock endured by children from mult-serum vaccinations. It is as if they had been struck in the head. Their eyes are wild, their skin pale. It is a form of childhood torture akin to circumcision. I hate these childhood vaccinations, and since I have been in the military and overseas, I have had even more. Are these vaccinations the primary cause of autism? Except in the case of black children -- Oh, any racial reference is verboten at politically correct Clarity -- I doubt it. There is research evidence that black male children are more subject to autism as a result of childhood vaccinations. Autism appears statistically, and I think is primarily genetic. It can't be helped, like cleft lips and club foot, which can be surgically repaired. If it's any consolation, your grandchild (Why do I think it's a male?) may be blessed with a superior ability to concentrate, as is the case with Bradford Hatcher.
 

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Thankyou topal, I'm inclined to agree with what you say.
Thankyou Pocossin. I agree with you also. Vaccinations are poisons injected into our beautiful babies. My 3rd son had all his injections but still had measles - badly, whooping cough - slightly and the other one ( can't remember the name just now) after that I refused the vaccinations for my other 3 children, none of whom suffered from any of the diseases even tho' they were all present whilst my third son was so ill. The woman who is supposed to have started the Indigo idea apparently saw things differently to anyone else i.e she saw things as shapes, colours or smells. So what if she saw the damage done to the children as a colour? After all isn't Indigo, Blue/Black? If so what on earth is black doing in a child's Aura? My grandson at 3 months old was chatting back to me with his whole body, he is highly intelligent and artistic but cries a lot whenever he is frustrated and can't do something perfectly. He is a delightful child and fortunately I seem to get through to him and console him when others can't. It hurts tho' to see him so distressed. Thankyou Poccosin I really appreciate your input. And topal thankyou also. :bows::bows:
 

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I would like to say black and darkness isn't always synonymous with evil. Research shadow, integrating the shadow, dark matter, black holes, and others, the universe doesn't rotate or move without these things. The yin and the yang of things...

But autism and Asperger's are related to the Neanderthal genome, according to some scientists, which is present in modern humans. At the very least, I have given you something to think about... :bows:
 

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Thankyou Kincadefoster.
I can accept that black isn't always synonymous with evil but I can't imagine that black would be in a young child's aura. After all Auras are usually described as pink, gold, blue, green etc., not that I am an expert on auras. But this woman (forgotten her name) was seeing things differently to the rest of us - as shapes, colours smells etc. so why should she suddenly see colour - as a colour? One highly respected scientist, by the way, is stating that by the year 2025, EVERY OTHER CHILD will be autistic. She blames the pesticides that our food is drenched with. So what will happen to the world when EVERY child is autistic?
Something else to think about, yes? Thankyou for your input anyway.
 

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Hi Topal
I wonder if you would mind elaborating a bit on your answer to me, for instance " Tread the middle way; look back on your life; integrate; - middle way; return to unity." " Draw together what really belongs to you (especially this remark)' And is 'Y' reflecting your own mind in this line of inquiry?
I could be a bit thick (probably am) but I really would appreciate more comments from you. I have recently joined a spiritual Development Circle and they seem all in favour of Indigo children but I am not so sure.
It seems very strange also that at one time we had one in a thousand Autistic children, we now have one in a hundred. And according to one highly respected scientist, by the year 2025 every other child will be autistic. Really? and what will the world do then I wonder. Shall they all be doped up with Ritalin? Many thanks for your help and input.
Meigga :bows:
 

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Hello Meigga,

Your original questions were:

What probability is there of the presence on the earth of Indigo people? Hex 10. 2,6, forgot next Hex

"Tread the middle way on this issue and look back at your life - or life in general - to gain perspective."

possibility of there being Indigo people - Hex 45.4 > 8

"Integrate. The middle way, return to unity. Draw together what really belongs to you. Keep it simple."

The way I saw the Yi responding to this question was firstly in terms of H.10, this is about treading - treading carefully on this topic perhaps because there are some inherent assumptions associated with the concept of indigo children.(i.e it is quite a strong belief in the human potential / New Age Movement.) Line 2: keep it simple. Occum's razor states that the simplest reasoning/hypothesis is usually -though not always - the best. Therefore, probability in this case may be weak and/or some cross-conceptualisation might be at work. Line 6: Look back through one's life to gauge the validity of this belief - even our collective history - to see if this might be correct. Overall tread carefully on this issue before believing it to be truth.

Similarly, with H.45. This is about integration and the gathering together of disparate parts to form a whole. The background Hexagram is 8 = union, (inner-outer) relating and where we belong. I see this as the idea as two-fold and which connect to each other: a) the process of integration allows for all kinds of seemingly unrelated, disparate elements to come together toward resolution on this issue - within yourself. b) There are indeed others out there gathering together to serve a larger purpose. This doesn't necessarily mean those labelled "indigo" have anything to do spiritual advancement. In some cases it may even mean the opposite. In other words, I think the Yi is answering your deeper intention behind the question.

"Draw together what belongs to you" was a summary of the above. We can't really lose what is really part of our essence. But we do have to figure out belief, assumption, sensationalism and plain old manipulation of age-old concepts in order to find the truth. And seems like you intuitively know this.

I have recently joined a spiritual Development Circle and they seem all in favour of Indigo children but I am not so sure.

I think you have a pretty good antenna for BS. Trust it. I mean no disrespect to those who consider themselves "new agers". But it is possible to embrace the best in human potential/New Age spirituality without being taken in by claims which, when you dig deeper are no more than frothy, feel-good beliefs which do little for the notion of service to others - least of all those with autism.
 

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Dear Topal, How kind of you to go to so much trouble - thankyou, thankyou.
I believe that all children are beautiful, spiritual beings until spoiled by adults who think they know better. of course it is the way we are brought up, and we believe that is the correct way until we learn better.
Your comments are really appreciated and I will cogitate on them a lot more.
I discussed the Indigo belief with a very advanced 'Healer' he neither said yes or no but I feel that basically he meant no.
Thankyou once again, you have given me lots to think about. with love, meigga:bows:
 

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Black light

miegga, I'm a bit late to this thread and have little to offer about the hexagrams. Can add a few details though:

Black light is not uncommon in certain kinds of Hindu meditation. It denotes a certain elevated state of consciousness a seeker might go through. I do not see auras but with my eyes closed, I had a spontaneous black light meditation at an ashram, lasted about 20 minutes and was pleasant. In my mind's eye I was seeing my world bathed in black light. Afterwards, several small problems seemed to resolve themselves. No fear involved.

Years ago, I spoke with a physician treating a family member for alzheimers. He was very philosophical about it: "We don't know where they are, but they are doing what they need to do." Perhaps that's going on in the lives of autistic children. How lucky your precious grandson is to have you. I love how he communicates with his whole body and wonder whether music is important for him; some autistic children can learn to express themselves through music. Also, if you live near the sea, the motion and sound of waves might be soothing for him. For a short time I worked at a clinic for "exceptional children," where an art therapist got astounding results. The kids loved to paint. As I recall, they were using tempera paint, vivid colors and nontoxic.

I definitely agree with you about vaccinations, also think GMO crops dusted with glycophosphate herbicides are a danger to all life.

I do wish you and your family all the best.
 

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I'll second the advice from poised - excellent thoughts. Art therapy, with the right facilitator, can be extraordinarily effective for autistic children and those with mental conditions generally.
 

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Poised:
Thankyou poised - I've never heard of Black Light. My grandson is fortunately only slightly autistic - AD something or other and is very artistic. Thankyou and Topal, Your help is very much appreciated. God bless you all on this site.
It's quite strange too; when I cuddle him or he me, I feel as though there is a warm blanket enclosing us both, it's a real physical feeling. I love him so much.
 

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