Is it possible to have a love relationship with x ? 46.5>48

[ymoshietsu]

Hello everyone,

I made this post just to confirm if i'm right about my reading of the YI about that question " Is it possible to have a love relationship with x ? " I think it's obvious but i'm a beginner in the YI reading

(Hex 46) Pushing upward seems to say " you go in the right direction, this is not for tomorrow but with line 5, step by step, with taking the time it need without your ego this relationship is possible and you could go to the well (Hex 48)

I was wondering if the well is full or empty with that question but 46.5 seems very auspicious. I was also wondering if the yi could answer to an other person than my initial question ? Because of the Well it's also the unknown, water is unfathomable, it's emotion, mystery but I can be wrong. I read that mainly Yi answers on a priority not exacltly the precise question we asked...

So what do you think about that reading ?Thank you !

 

[Freedda]

I am curious, what is your current relationship like? Are you friends? Already lovers? Coworkers? And what have been the interactions between you two?

 

[ymoshietsu]

At this time we are both working on a scientific study at the hospital. We are not close, we exchange more than co-workers than friends but when we see each other, we talk about everything, psychology, esoterism, hollidays and other things. We have a very good ambiance in the team, I'm not attracted by this woman we are very different, but something made me think that maybe in this mystery something might happened... or maybe it's just my projections and the YI say " One step at the time " I'm on a good path, something coming but not with this woman.. I don't know...

I hope this can help you !

 

[Trojina]

(Hex 46) Pushing upward seems to say " you go in the right direction, this is not for tomorrow but with line 5, step by step, with taking the time it need without your ego this relationship is possible and you could go to the well (Hex 48)

Hilary's translation of line 5


'Constancy, good fortune.
Pushing upward step by step.'


That's what Yi says, doesn't say anything about your ego, the word 'ego' will only be mentioned in bad commentaries there is no such word in Yi - but generally yes I think you are correct this is a step by step by process, no rushing. Each meeting builds on the previous one so that there's a possibility you get closer over a period of time if that is what you both want. I say 'possibility' because I don't think any answer can promise this will be a love relationship, it doesn't work like that with Yi, but certainly it looks like things can steadily go in a steady direction of growth.

I was wondering if the well is full or empty with that question but 46.5 seems very auspicious. I was also wondering if the yi could answer to an other person than my initial question ? Because of the Well it's also the unknown, water is unfathomable, it's emotion, mystery but I can be wrong. I read that mainly Yi answers on a priority not exacltly the precise question we asked...

When you have just one line moving that is very much your answer and there is no great need to consider the relating hexagram too much IMO. In order to reach the well's water it must be maintained and the rope and bucket must be usable so I think here your answer is saying that by taking care of the steps of the process you can reach the water of the well. although the relating hexagram is not 'the future' but the entire context of the question.


In Yi the well doesn't indicate the unknown or mystery or other watery associations that might be there with Tarot. This is a well as a resource.

It seems to me Yi has directly answered the question you put.

 

[ymoshietsu]

Thank you so much for your input ! I understand better that relative hexagram with the well ! Indeed I made some free association with the Well and Water.. It's my mistake ! Moreover I used the word " Ego " but I should have used " Pride " instead. I saw the relative hexagramm at the direction where it seems I'm going... You are very Helpul Trojina, next time I will reconsider my position about the YI and what he has to say.

 

[Trojina]

Thank you so much for your input ! I understand better that relative hexagram with the well ! Indeed I made some free association with the Well and Water.. It's my mistake ! Moreover I used the word " Ego " but I should have used " Pride " instead. I saw the relative hexagramm at the direction where it seems I'm going... You are very Helpul Trojina, next time I will reconsider my position about the YI and what he has to say.

Ymoshietsu you can of course use whatever words you like, I didn't mean to sound so bossy. You will find everyone here has different ideas about how to interpret and so we say our idea but that doesn't mean you have to follow.


For example people do differ on how to look at the relating hexagram so you will find I will tell you one thing but someone else may say something quite different. I often link to this blog of Hilary's which I think is helpful in understanding the relating hexagram



In the end you have to see what works best for you in readings.

 

[ymoshietsu]

It's difficult on a forum to be understood by other and pearhaps I have to explain more what I want to say. Your words don't sound so bossy and you seems very empathic with your kind words, try to be at my place, from the point of view I have. Thx you again for the link, I look also on james DeKorne, and Lise before open a tread, this help me a lot too !

 

[sylvia1ching]

I think your interpretation is correct in that with time and patience with effort commitment and perseverance towards your vision it is possible and will bring success. Steady, consistent, deliberate action will there be success.

Hex 48: the well
Pushing upward relates to the progress of growth of a plant. The well also symbolizes a plant lifting water upward to nourish itself.

The well represents a inexhaustible dispensing of nourishment. It is considered inexhaustible source for man and all of nature. It is the foundation around which societies are built and it is forever unchanging in its usefulness and basic need for life. Architecture, time, people change but the well for what it provides and represents is consistent in change.

The well figuratively represent influence and as it relates to man ...man character and it breadth and depth to which it influences. Man influences circumstances, things, other people or people's. The well is a metaphor how to discriminate the right way. What it provides influences all that it comes into contact way thru nourishment, progress, growth...it brings about clarity through its reflection of the water, to wash away the unnecessary and distracting, it awakens and sustains life. The warning is that if i actions and intentions are not executed the right way that things can breakdown.

So as long as you proceed the right way for the right reasons then success will be rich like the well.

 

[ymoshietsu]

Thank you for your explanation on the Well, this is very helpful, I can see the big picture now and what this metaphor can say... Even with 46.5 it's look like this could be hard to have a relationship with this person (love or not)

Today I asked the Yi " What can I do to have a love relationship ? (a new one in general not a specific person) And I got Hex 23 UC... Does this mean I just have to let go accept that I can do anything ? This hex in this particular question sound like " You can do all the effort you want, it will bring you misfortune " I've check this post from Trojina and I think, it's a pretty good reading https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?20044-hex-23-unchanging

Tell me If I don't read this Hex correctly, I'm a newbee but I'm ready to learn

 

[Trojina]

Thank you for your explanation on the Well, this is very helpful, I can see the big picture now and what this metaphor can say... Even with 46.5 it's look like this could be hard to have a relationship with this person (love or not)

There's nothing in the reading that really says this needs to be hard. 46.5 shows good fortune in making incremental progress. Do you mean you think it will be hard because that's how it looks or that you think it is hard due to the reading ?

Today I asked the Yi " What can I do to have a love relationship ? (a new one in general not a specific person) And I got Hex 23 UC... Does this mean I just have to let go accept that I can do anything ? This hex in this particular question sound like " You can do all the effort you want, it will bring you misfortune " I've check this post from Trojina and I think, it's a pretty good reading https://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?20044-hex-23-unchanging

Perhaps you are still in the process of the old one breaking down ?

The first answer was a fairly good one so why not see where that goes.


I find questions asking what to 'do' to get love virtually impossible to make sense of, I mean what can anyone do, it doesn't mean much to me and I generally don't like to get too involved in relationship/love questions but I thought your first answer of 46.5 was fairly clear so why not go ahead and continue connecting with this woman ?

 

[ymoshietsu]

Thank you Trojina for your answer ! I said it can be hard because this woman seems to have an high status at the hospital and I'm not good to make relationship especially love one, (yeah i'm a bit shy ^^ and I don't like to make projections ).

Perhaps you are still in the process of the old one breaking down ?

I was thinking about that too indeed with that hexagram but I think it's weird because I've already make my grief on that past story (more than one year from today). Today I'm ready to wlecome a new relationship a new one (if the universe is ok ) I just want to add that yes I'm ready since a while to move on

I understand very well what you said about what to do to get love... I should have put a better question. Actually i'm alone, try to make some friends, meet new people, but I don't find a partner... this is what I asked the YI " what to do " (we can read " what's wrong with me ?) and with hex 23 UC I was thinking, " ok it seems I have to let go, don't think about it.." It's like heard a friend say to me " Don't try to find love, love will find you "

I will continue connecting with her of course because we share same interests at work and other things but in my heart I don't feel attracted by her.. at least not for the moment, I asked the YI because she could be the person I need to help me to evolve in my life, learning some lessons but who knows.. maybe it's a lot of projections and too much mental ideas...

 

[sylvia1ching]

ymoshietsu

46.5 has a very good outlook. It simply saying persevere on but be careful and deliberate in every action.

"If it is not difficult, it is not worth doing" Hilary Clinton

That quote is as close as I can get to the right quote.

QUESTION: When have you had ANY RELATIONSHIP that did not have difficulty or DID NOT require careful consideration and step by step progression to get what you want. All relationships your boss...when you get a fair review and he gives you feedback to have you work be in excellence...so given this person you are asking about is someone you want to love ...WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO.TO HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP?

 

[ymoshietsu]

ymoshietsu46.5 has a very good outlook. It simply saying persevere on but be careful and deliberate in every action. "If it is not difficult, it is not worth doing" Hilary ClintonThat quote is as close as I can get to the right quote.QUESTION: When have you had ANY RELATIONSHIP that did not have difficulty or DID NOT require careful consideration and step by step progression to get what you want. All relationships your boss...when you get a fair review and he gives you feedback to have you work be in excellence...so given this person you are asking about is someone you want to love ...WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO.TO HAVE THIS RELATIONSHIP?

You made a point, I forget all the effort I made in the past to have relationship... Thank you for remind me that ! Indeed, " If is not difficult, it is not worth doing " You are absolutly right...

At this moment I don't know what I am willing to do to have this relationship.. simply because I don't know very much this person, her life, her passion etc.. I think I'm actually blind and don't know where I have to go... In fact, I think I'm waiting to have an insight in my heart and soul to open myself to a possible relationship... This sounds probably weird to say that but I'm on the " Wait and see " Thing...

 

[sylvia1ching]

At this moment I don't know what I am willing to do to have this relationship.. simply because I don't know very much this person, her life, her passion etc.. I think I'm actually blind and don't know where I have to go... In fact, I think I'm waiting to have an insight in my heart and soul to open myself to a possible relationship... This sounds probably weird to say that but I'm on the " Wait and see " Thing...

That is honest and I can respect that. We can plan all day but if it is not the right time or the person then it is ineffective. You will know it when you see it or feel it.

 

[sylvia1ching]

At this moment I don't know what I am willing to do to have this relationship.. simply because I don't know very much this person, her life, her passion etc.. I think I'm actually blind and don't know where I have to go... In fact, I think I'm waiting to have an insight in my heart and soul to open myself to a possible relationship... This sounds probably weird to say that but I'm on the " Wait and see " Thing...

That is honest and I can respect that. We can plan all day but if it is not the right time or the person then it is ineffective. You will know it when you see it or feel it.

 

[ymoshietsu]

That is honest and I can respect that. We can plan all day but if it is not the right time or the person then it is ineffective. You will know it when you see it or feel it.

Thank you for your kindess words and your empathy.