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Is this basal cell carcinoma? SKINNING: 49.1.2

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I asked about this situation yesterday: What will biopsy require? 56 unchanging. I'd already had the biopsy and 56 seems to indicate a bit of examination, possibly a bit of treatment.

This morning I asked a more precise question: Is this basal cell carcinoma? The name of the hexagram seemed almost ridiculously perfect: 49.1.2.> 28. Skinning to Across the Great Pass I used LiSe's online iching, which does serve me well.

Hexagram 49

Skinning
Skinning on Si-day, then truth
Eminent - expansion, harvest - determination
Regrets disappear
The great image says:
In the middle of the lake is fire: skinning
A noble one, by regulating the times, makes the seasons clear
Lake
Fire
day 17 of a yin moon

Cast off what is obsolete or wrong, or not right for the coming times. Take away a skin or other outside that hinders life. Not all skins can grow, the ones who cannot have to be renewed when the time has come.
It has to be done at the right time, when the old is on the point of breaking, and the new has the possibility to grow. Like the snake sheds his skin at the exact right moment. Sì-day is the day of the snake, the best possible day for skinning.


Is a snake day coming up soon? Or have I missed my chance of getting help from this element? (At a recent tribal ceremony, my totem animal turned out to be a very nurturing anaconda, huge symbol of renewal. So perhaps every day is Si-day for me. )

Line 1: Bind them using yellow cattle's hide.
There are always innumerable reasons why one thinks change is impossible. Evaluate them critically - very often they are other people's reasons and one has adopted them too easily. What is common is usually not creative.(Fan yao is hex. 31)


Yes, the excised bits of flesh are being evaluated critically at the lab. More than that I cannot relate to .

Line 2: On Sì-day, then skinning is correct. Auspicious. No fault.
A revolution is only fortunate when the time is assisting. Possibilities can be awakened when they are ready for it, and when the circumstances are favorable. If one missed this point, it is no use to force anything, but if one hits the right moment, one can make great turnovers. (Fan yao is hex. 43)


So I'm hoping that we hit the right moment and didn't wait too long to have this looked at.

49.1.2 changes to 28, which is a bit worrisome if it indicates the future, not so much if it's the matrix of my question

Hexagram 28
DÀ GUÒ
Across the great pass
Crossing the great pass: the ridgepole is sagging
Harvest: to proceed probing
Expansion

The great image says:
The marsh submerges the tree: Great excess
The noble one stands alone without fear, retreats from the world without melancholy
Lake
Wind
day 26 of a yang moon

Life is a cycle, it is circular. It begins, it grows, and it goes down again. To make life a straight road to a distant future is a desperate attempt of human mind to make it never-ending. It will not help him – inevitably he will go down some day.
But if man accepts going down as a substantial, important and good part of life, not as a decline but as a indispensable phase, then he makes his living days twice as many.
Do not live as an old man or an old woman, live as a grand old man, a grand old lady. Without regret or fear, but with the riches of wisdom and experience.
This applies to everything, to enterprises, feelings, popularity. In everything all phases are important.

DàGuò: The character 1 represents a man: a big one. The second character is a pass in a mountain, also meaning the completion of an action. 2 the steps, 3 the foot, together the crossing. 4 Is a skeleton. In guo there is a mouth added; one of its other meanings is a distorted or wry mouth, or with a cleft palate: the opening between the mountains, a pass.


Well, yikes. We did proceed probing. And I do try to live as a grand old lady…food saint --all organic--gym, younger friends, good figure, pursuing career, etc. I am NOT going down without a fight. Period. But the distorted mouth really worries me, as my nose and upper lip are involved. I really do not think I could survive losing all or part of facial features; would have to retreat from the world altogether in that case. Ugh.

However, I do have a "big man" doing this work, the leading dermatologist in my city, and he's tall. He did remove a strange non-cancerous growth from my back a few years ago that no other doctor would touch. Perfect surgery, almost zero scar, and got insurance to pay for it.

So, I hope I'm not confusing myself, which is entirely possible. If anyone has insights to add, I'll be most grateful.
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Change's Great Excess. This tells me mostly that you are overwhelmed in thinking about the biopsy and what it could mean . . . I have found over and over that the I Ching is difficult to interpret when it comes to medical questions. And yet we cannot help ourselves. We must ask these questions that are so much on our minds.

My best advice is to wait patiently for the biopsy results to come in and don't get overly involved in I Ching readings about this. :hug:
 

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Because of the sloughing that occurs in squamous-cell carcinoma, I would prefer that for 49, though the odds are for basal, but 28 suggests that you will live to a ripe old age. As for retreating from the world, your insurance might pay for repair, should any be needed. You might even get a free facelift out of this.
 

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Worrying, nagging I Ching: Vanity, all is vanity

Free facelift? Bring it on, pocossin. You've made my day.

Pictures of squamous cells do not look like what I have. One is white, like a wart under, rather than on top of, the skin. This is the largest of the crop, on my nose where, as doc said previously, I might need a ruby or diamond to fill the hole he may have to leave. Silly me, I prefer skin.

ginnie, you are absolutely right: I do need to stop trying to figure this out. It is what it is, and I'll know within the next week or so .

Thanks to both of you for your great readings, advice, and patience--Trojina too. Thankfully, I have stuff to do next week, places to go, people to see, and a birthday party to attend (mine). Also a new self-defense class at the gym at 6 a.m. That's the kind of little old lady I plan to be -- with or without a nose. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Hi Poised,

While I agree that readings for health conditions are usually tricky, I tend to see your first reading much as you did. I especially look at trigrams for specific health related matters, and fire is a frequent sign of irritation or literally burning. Since we are 98% water, I don't think it's far reaching to see this condition represented as fire within the lake. These elements are in conflict or all out war with each other, each fighting for its own existence. Basal Cell Carcinoma is typically fiery red.
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I do see 28 as your reaction to this condition, but it may also represent a condition that can not last without dire consequences, so it can be seen either or both ways.

A diamond is an elegant idea, though a little reconstructive plastic surgery may be more your style. And when nearing my age, it's no disgrace to just accept it if it's not covered by your insurance or your budget. Would you trade for the loss of the hair on my head? ;)
 

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Since we are 98% water

If we were 98% water, we would be liquid.

According to Dr. Jeffrey Utz, Neuroscience, pediatrics, Allegheny University, different people have different percentages of their bodies made up of water. Babies have the most, being born at about 78%. By one year of age, that amount drops to about 65%. In adult men, about 60% of their bodies are water. However, fat tissue does not have as much water as lean tissue. In adult women, fat makes up more of the body than men, so they have about 55% of their bodies made of water.
http://water.usgs.gov/edu/propertyyou.html

I have the notion from high school long ago that we are 70% water on average. I agree with your judgments otherwise, except I am protective of hair. As with Samson, hair tells your health. I was born with white hair, peroxide blond, and had it until I was about 7, when my hair darkened. Mother's maden name was White, if that means anything. I learned from the late radio doctor Donald Carrow that small amounts of manganese would prevent, among other things, split fingernails and white hair in old age. Manganese is a tricky supplement. Too much and you get Parkinson's. Too little and you get systemic diseases. Deficiency may contribute to the disease being discussed here. Some parts of NC have an excess of manganese in the drinking water during the heat of summer when manganese is dissolved from rocks in streams. The soil in my area is deficient in manganese, and I do not think I have hurt myself by talking a manganese supplement.
 
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sooo

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My error. Make that, since we are roughly 60% water, etc.

No one notices my male pattern baldness at 70 years old. I simply comb over my ear hairs.
 
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sooo

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Poised, not intended to make light of the condition; well, maybe a little in the sense that these things happen, in one form or another, as we age. (I don't really comb over my ear hairs, but I do buzz cut my entire head these days, which is a comfort in this desert heat. Autographed pictures available upon request.) And working out reasonably is a great idea. I wish you the best with the tests and outcome. You'll still be beautiful to me.
 

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Aging cantankerously

:bows::) sooo. And I've always found buzz cuts irresistible. May get one myself. Or, put a bag over my head with a photo of Marilyn Monroe pasted on.

Coincidentally(?), I saw Harold and Maude yesterday with a movie buff group here in town. Perhaps I need an 18-yr-old :blush:…….nah, too boring. Postscript: Ruth Gordon was a schoolmate of my grandmother's in Quincy Mass. Oh, the stories.

And goodness gracious, you have a birthday coming up this week. Do we do birthday parties on Clarity? Cast hexagrams for the coming year?
 
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Happy Birthday to Us!

(I need a haircut!)

Funny, I've been meaning to watch that on Netflix. An 18 year old could be fun, but what do you talk about after doing the funky chicken? :rolleyes:

I only do short term prediction readings, like: What if I go to that jam session today? "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." I don't do B'days as a rule, or holidays (an exception for this post and you). Gave them up the morning I found a lump of coal in my Christmas stocking. :mad:
 
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You're too kind, if that were possible. :hug:

I saw about half of Harold and Maude last night but fell asleep from lack of same the night before. Wow, what energy that woman had. I could understand why it took a young guy to keep up. On the other hand, he seemed like a morose old man, a member of the Adams Family.

I hope you keep us updated. Wishing for the best.
 

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Grande Dames

a member of the Adams Family.

Regrettably not Lurch.:mischief:

Ruth Gordon was schoolmate of my grandmother's in Quincy MA and wanted to be a movie star from the get go. My grand raised the family and headed to NOLA, where she managed The Columns on St. Charles until she died.

I need an adventure…but not one that includes carcinoma. Can you set that to music? Blame It On The Carcinoma……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaRlW-jz1QQ
 
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sooo

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Just watched the ending. Classic flick. Thanks for the reminder to watch it.
 
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Hair envy, maybe. Ah, nothing like early 60's country gospel though, where most country music's stars were born. It was either Gospel or crying in your beer. I learned my first guitar chords from a country player and singer while in the Navy, so it will always have a place in my heart, corny though it may be. I was even a Hee Haw fan. Used to make trips to Gladstone, VA on weekend leave, where we two were treated like family, except family didn't drink moonshine with their sisters in the back seat of a '55 Mercury. Well, actually they did, but that's another story.

Actually a big Adam's Family fan, though Morticia was more my style.
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Answer from doc re basal cell carcinoma

Nice when you can verify the I Ching precisely.

As it turns out, three of the four biopsies did reveal basal cell carcinomas, but small ones, not requiring hospitalization to have them removed. They're coming off on 6/25 at 10:10 a.m. PDT, if those numbers mean anything.

As for the fourth, it's "sun damage," surprise surprise.

Thanks to all for your feedback and good wishes.
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Adjusted time

Oooops, cannot read my own writing.
Thursday, 6/25 at 10:10 Pacific Daylight Time (PDT)

Hope that's a si-day.

Actually, I'm no longer worried at all. It was the uncertainty that bothered me, as ginnie suggested earlier.

Thanks again to everyone :bows:
 

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