It's a topsy-turvy world... 6.2>12

[aiyana]

Hi everyone. It's been a chaotic couple of months as I've moved house & gone on leave from work, resulting in being laid off. Aaaaahh, to be a statistic. For my ongoing health complaints I've been taking a prescription that I'm sure is contributing to my general ... malaise. I want to stop it, not only because I'm sick & tired of being exhausted, but because I loathe being a sucker of the pharmaceutical-industrial complex, cashing in on me while it's rattling bottles of pills aren't making a measurable difference.

I asked the Yi, What will be the result of my going off of this medication cold turkey?

6.2>12.

This could go two ways:

1) If I do stop the med I'll be better able to focus on my business and emotional well-being, ('leaving the mindset'), which will allow me to center and get to the core of the problem. Also I should taper the dose rather than quit cold turkey ('defer contention').

OR

2) I could continue to take the med stopping at an unspecified time in the future. ('defer contention'). The medication isn't the problem, and I should continue as things have been, and may have more difficulty going off the suckers than I anticipate ('battling is a waste of time even if I'm right').

There's also the Hex 12 result, which indicates 'stop'. Stop which? Stop taking the med or stop thinking about stopping the med?

I'm inclined to go with the first interpretation, however my personal perspective is skewed.

Any feedback biased or otherwise is gratefully accepted

 

[Trojina]

I think I would go with the first interpretation too. In 6.2 one gives up an unequal struggle and saves oneself.......but I agree its very hard also to know how to take it for it could, I guess mean you give up fighting against, ie disapproving of the medication to save yourself ...or your other interpretation is perfectly feasible too...I'm afraid i don't think this is one where others will be able to be certain. I think you are going to have to climb back inside the question to get a feel for the angle the answer is coming from if that makes sense which may involve sitting withit a bit longer

In your shoes I would of course check this out factually with a Dr or your health adviser and maybe ask some more clarifying questions becasue for me its still a little too unclear to act on....though i am way more inclined to go with the first interpretation since you did ask about stopping the meds...and 6.2 speaks of retreat from conflict

 

[pocossin]

What will be the result of my going off of this medication cold turkey?
6.2 > 12

Don't do it. Line 6.2 counsels no action.

One cannot engage in conflict;
One returns home, gives way.
The people of his town,
Three hundred households,
Remain free of guilt.

'Three hundred households' in this context suggests a support group, easy to find on the Internet. Malaise is a frequent side effect of high blood pressure medication. I have seen it reduce an elderly person to a vegetable. Whatever you're taking, bug your doctor to change medications. If no cooperation, get a second opinion. It can be very dangerous to stop some medications cold turkey. A change will be easier if you can make lifestyle changes that reduce your need for medication.

 

[beyond_the_veil]

aiyana, have you thought about energy healing? Perhaps that may work for you as a supplement to your medication.

 

[Trojina]

What will be the result of my going off of this medication cold turkey?
6.2 > 12

Don't do it. Line 6.2 counsels no action.

One cannot engage in conflict;
One returns home, gives way.
The people of his town,
Three hundred households,
Remain free of guilt.

'Three hundred households' in this context suggests a support group, easy to find on the Internet. Malaise is a frequent side effect of high blood pressure medication. I have seen it reduce an elderly person to a vegetable. Whatever you're taking, bug your doctor to change medications. If no cooperation, get a second opinion. It can be very dangerous to stop some medications cold turkey. A change will be easier if you can make lifestyle changes that reduce your need for medication.

I don't think 6.2 always counsels no action. It can counsel returning home as it says and that is an action.

One time i received it very literally living in one town and returning to a home town. But the returning was an action

 

[pocossin]

I don't think 6.2 always counsels no action. It can counsel returning home as it says and that is an action.

One time i received it very literally living in one town and returning to a home town. But the returning was an action

Aiyana is in conflict with her (my gender assumption) medication. Should she fight it? Line 2 says no. She wouldn't be on this medication if she didn't need it or something like it in the first place. There are probably alternatives that will do just as good and not have such severe side effects. It's a medical issue her doctor should handle.

 

[Trojina]

I'd assumed Aiyana had enough common sense to know if her medication was essential or not

There are many medications one has a choice over, such as the contraceptive pill, drugs that change mood, pain killers...indigestion remedies and many many others ..so it is not true to say a dr would not have given her them if she did not need them

Drs hand out drugs people don't need all day everyday..and they often ask the pateint if they want them or not so many drugs are down to patient choice

Generally one does know the difference between the essential ones that impact on survival...and the less essential ones

I'd see the answer to the question describing her action of coming off the medication, returning home, escaping harm...though as i said in my earlier post its uncertain how to take it

Of course it would be certain if we knew the nature of the drug...Aiyana knows so that should sway her one way or the other. If its a drug that affects the heart or something its obviously different to if it some anti depressant which drs hand out like sweeties to all and everyone without much discrimination. Mind you coming off some of those cold turkey is not a good idea, but whatever medication it is needs a little research about withdrawal from it

 

[aiyana]

Hi, thanks for all of the feedback. The prescription in question is for a pain medication that is potentially addictive. The dose is relatively low however tapering is recommended.

My doctor is absolutely one those who is continually throwing prescriptions my way. In fact, when at first I complained he told me verbatim, 'I'm a doctor, I write prescriptions for a living'(!). Totally counter to my personal health philosophy, which is that given the right conditions the body can largely heal itself. Saying that, I haven't gone a day without moderate to severe pain in over a year and need to live my life. This is the only analgesic that helps though not completely effective, and I won't take higher doses due to the side effects & worries about becoming addicted. This year I've also begun to experience sudden mood swings -- completely out of character for me, and thus rather frightening. I'm generally very healthy living, and I attribute them to the medication.

beyond_the_veil, I've been doing Reiki over the last month and it helps the moods but not the pain. I've tried physiotherapy, massage, chiropractor, acupuncture, Feldenkrais, supplementing with aminos etc etc and am having some relief with an exercise technique called Core Fusion. Ugh, I feel disappointed with myself for needing a prescription to get through the day, but I suppose that's a separate issue.

My plan is to begin tapering the meds as I want to be free of them. I suppose I could consider a support group if the process proves troublesome, but it's not really my style.

 

[Trojina]

You are very wise to be thinking about this...the mood swings may well be due to addiction. So difficult if you do need the pain relief but being aware is half the battle

I have gotten hooked on things and not known it was happening. Now I am careful especially with strong pain killers which my dr seems happy to dish out by the 100s. If i didn't know how addictive these could be I'd be well and truly hooked.

I don't much care for a blanket anti dr anti medical appraoch but in this area I wish they would think more. Young people, only 19 or so, are often being given anti depressants by the bucket load just becasue they are feeling down and sometimes these create more problems than they help

Going cold turkey may really cause problems so take it very gradually and do get support if you think the mood swings are down to a level of dependence which they could well be.

 

[pocossin]

I suppose I could consider a support group if the process proves troublesome, but it's not really my style.

You are not the only one in the world with this problem, and however self-reliant you may be, some things we cannot do without others.

 

[aiyana]

Just wanted to follow up and say that last summer I tapered the pain meds much faster than the advice of my doctors (who admitted they would have carried in giving them to me in higher doses for years had I asked, despite the negative psychological side-effects. grrrr). It took a few months to re-stablize but my mental clarity returned almost immediately, motivation took a minute to catch up. Ironically, the pain meds increased my sensitivity to pain, which I now control with diet, meditation, self-hypnosis and keeping my lifestyle as stress free as realistically possible.

Pocassin, I did consider some group therapy in the first months however have managed so far without. Thank you for your support.