Jesed's relationship questions :)

[wonder]

Hello,

I've been working quite a lot on learning the I Ching (just took Hilary's Intro Course) and getting more comfortable everyday..though still very confused at times. I'm asking about a lot of things but mostly my romantic life. The best advice I can give others asking the Yi about relationships is to try Jesed's relationship quetsions:

What is the diagnosis for my relationship with X and I?
What is X's position in this relationship?
What is my position in this relationship?
What is the best thing for me to do?

It gave me a much more well-rounded picture of what is going on, and where it might go.

Alot of what I received in asking about a relationship of mine, we are currently not together but I would like it if we could reunite, jumped off the page but some of it was still confusing. Was hoping to get someone's opinion on the answers I got with Jesed's questions:

Diagnosis - 2 Unchanging (be receptive to what comes my way?)
X's position - 4 Unchanging (he is inexperienced, and errs, but will seek wisdom and have success?)
My position - 30.1.3>35 (I need to be more in the moment and let it progress at it's own pace?)
Best thing to do - 15.1>36 (don't get too sweep up in uncertanties, trust your instinct and remain confident?)

I also did another cast - one that Hilary suggested with really meditating before the cast. Asking yourself all sorts of probing questions about what you hope to acheive, what do you dread, hope for, want to learn, etc. This was probably the cast I felt most spiritually connected. I asked What will become of X and I? Received - 31.1.3.4.5>24

Thank you

Thank you,
Jennie

 

[Trojina]

I always wondered about the first question. How can you 'diagnose' a relationship ?

You diagnose an illness.....but what does diagnosing a relationship really mean ?

 

[wonder]

I took it as diagnosis - the probable outcome or opinion of it. LIke a doctor's diagnosis of your illness.

 

[kkappa]

Hello,

I've been working quite a lot on learning the I Ching (just took Hilary's Intro Course) and getting more comfortable everyday..though still very confused at times. I'm asking about a lot of things but mostly my romantic life. The best advice I can give others asking the Yi about relationships is to try Jesed's relationship quetsions:

What is the diagnosis for my relationship with X and I?
What is X's position in this relationship?
What is my position in this relationship?
What is the best thing for me to do?

It gave me a much more well-rounded picture of what is going on, and where it might go.

Alot of what I received in asking about a relationship of mine, we are currently not together but I would like it if we could reunite, jumped off the page but some of it was still confusing. Was hoping to get someone's opinion on the answers I got with Jesed's questions:

Diagnosis - 2 Unchanging (be receptive to what comes my way?)
X's position - 4 Unchanging (he is inexperienced, and errs, but will seek wisdom and have success?)
My position - 30.1.3>35 (I need to be more in the moment and let it progress at it's own pace?)
Best thing to do - 15.1>36 (don't get too sweep up in uncertanties, trust your instinct and remain confident?)

I also did another cast - one that Hilary suggested with really meditating before the cast. Asking yourself all sorts of probing questions about what you hope to acheive, what do you dread, hope for, want to learn, etc. This was probably the cast I felt most spiritually connected. I asked What will become of X and I? Received - 31.1.3.4.5>24

Thank you

Thank you,
Jennie

Hi Jennie,

A very curios reading of the situation you got there. Especially the general diagnosis one. 2 unchanging... wow. Yes, it is telling you (or both of you?) that you were/are/should be receptive, but at the same time it is really emphasising working on your character and being open to love. It makes me wonder whether you really are open to love then, or whether there is some deep underlying tension with regards to that there? Just going out on a limb here, so don't panic, I find it a very curios answer, that 2 unch.

Your position says that you need to be clear in your head and make this state permanent (meditation is a good start) and so there will be progress, but maybe once you attain clarity - who is to say that you still want him then? Maybe someone more enlightened will be more up your alley?

As for what will become of you - I'm afraid it is saying that you should not follow your every whim, it will bring humiliation. Also it is describing that your thoughts go back and forth and that you cannot find peace. 24 asks you to return to yourself.

So all in all, there's a lot of work to be done, and it seems that the man in question is someone that is perhaps too young for you and still learning?

Love and light to you,
K

 

[kkappa]

I always wondered about the first question. How can you 'diagnose' a relationship ?

You diagnose an illness.....but what does diagnosing a relationship really mean ?

I like to call it a bird's eye view

 

[meng]

It's a logical sequence of questions, starting with the big picture. Jesed called it diagnosis: what is it I'm dealing with? what does it look like, outside my personal (especially emotional) involvement?

Then, where's he/she coming from, what part is he/she playing? (friend, teacher, mentor, fiance, etc)

Then, what part am I playing? (friend, teacher, mentor, fiance, etc)

Finally, what is the best thing to do?

There are other words one can use to say the same thing. The words aren't important, understanding the process is.

It's called a funnel line of questioning. \/ You start at the wide and general top and gradually narrow down to answering the specific details of the question. If the original premise is misguided and off the mark, every question which follows will be based on a false premise. That's why it's important to get a good, clear overview position of the matter in question. Not that you're filling the IC in on something it doesn't know, lol, but for our own clarity of mind to not just receive an answer, but to receive the answer according to the rhythm (sine wave) of the time.

 

[wonder]

Thanks everyone.

Meng - do you have any insight as to the answers I received? It's funny I was just looking at a past thread of yours that I liked and then you pop up here on mine!? Weird

 

[meng]

Thanks everyone.

Meng - do you have any insight as to the answers I received? It's funny I was just looking at a past thread of yours that I liked and then you pop up here on mine!? Weird

I'm charging $1,500 USD per reading.

Kidding. Let me have a look.

 

[wonder]

Hah! OMG..I thought you were serious for a moment

 

[meng]

Hi Jennie,

I get the impression that he is unaware of the level of your interest in him. Either that or he's not mature enough to know what to do about you. Wooing doesn't work from one direction only. With a species of bird I observe, the male does the flash dancing, she hops around a little, looks the other way, and sings. It's a dance, their ritual. Wooing always develops such rituals, but it appears that in your case, he hasn't stepped up to the dance, and you don't feel it's your place to take the lead. So everything returns to you, more or less unanswered. It sounds frustrating.

 

[post-snow]

I've been working quite a lot on learning the I Ching (just took Hilary's Intro Course) and getting more comfortable everyday..though still very confused at times. I'm asking about a lot of things but mostly my romantic life. The best advice I can give others asking the Yi about relationships is to try Jesed's relationship quetsions:

What is the diagnosis for my relationship with X and I?
What is X's position in this relationship?
What is my position in this relationship?
What is the best thing for me to do?

It gave me a much more well-rounded picture of what is going on, and where it might go.

Alot of what I received in asking about a relationship of mine, we are currently not together but I would like it if we could reunite, jumped off the page but some of it was still confusing. Was hoping to get someone's opinion on the answers I got with Jesed's questions:

Diagnosis - 2 Unchanging (be receptive to what comes my way?)
X's position - 4 Unchanging (he is inexperienced, and errs, but will seek wisdom and have success?)
My position - 30.1.3>35 (I need to be more in the moment and let it progress at it's own pace?)
Best thing to do - 15.1>36 (don't get too sweep up in uncertanties, trust your instinct and remain confident?)

I also did another cast - one that Hilary suggested with really meditating before the cast. Asking yourself all sorts of probing questions about what you hope to acheive, what do you dread, hope for, want to learn, etc. This was probably the cast I felt most spiritually connected. I asked What will become of X and I? Received - 31.1.3.4.5>24

Thank you

Thank you,

oh thank you jennie!

 

[Trojina]

It's a 2013 thread and Jennie has deleted her account, possibly ten years ago. There is a 'thanks' button which you could use.