job question -- >hex 38 (unchanging)

[melcomcosh101]

Folks,

For those of you kind enough to reply in the past (Willow, Dobro, Jesed), you may remember that I'm having ongoing issues with my job. I have once again come across an opportunity that I'm hoping will take me out of my current position.

I asked the I Ching what would happen if I was to take the position (they're down to 2 applicants) and received 38 - no changing lines. I asked what the impact to my family (me and my partner) specifically would be if I joined the new company.

At first glance it appears like it would cause a problem with my partner, but upon closer review, it appears that basically I've hit the final fork in the road and it's time to take the new opportunity. The "split" would be with my current company. I'm very happy in my relationship at home and would certainly not want to jeopardize that.

Any feedback?

Once again, many thanks for your insights.

 

[dobro p]

Your interpretation of what you drew is interesting because it's exactly the opposite of what the Yi seems to be saying. In itself, that isn't interesting, because it's really common for people to want something, consult the Yi, and then ignore what it tells them if it doesn't endorse what they want. But your case is a bit different. Here's why I think so.

"I asked the I Ching what would happen if I was to take the position (they're down to 2 applicants) and received 38 - no changing lines. I asked what the impact to my family (me and my partner) specifically would be if I joined the new company."

The Yi seems to be saying something like: "If you take the position, the impact on your relationship with your partner will be one of polarization - there will be serious difference of opinion." In other words, it's okay to take the position as long as you understand that you and partner are definitely not going to see eye to eye about it.

Okay, so why do I think it's interesting that you've turned this on its head and interpreted it according to what your ego wants? Well, simply this: you drew 38, which is about polarized viewpoints. Not only did the Yi tell you what would happen between your and your sweetie if you took the new job, it also mirrored your present attitude to the Yi itself and the help it's giving you. You and the Yi are polarized - it's saying one thing, and you're saying it's saying another thing.

Here are two other questions to consider, and possibly ask the oracle about:

What do I need to know about staying in the present job?

What do I need to know about trying to get a new job other than the one I just asked about?

 

[melcomcosh101]

Dobro -

It's funny how we only see what we want to see isn't it? I definitely want this to be a good thing for me and my sweetie. Would it have made any difference if I had just asked, "what is the impact to taking the new job"? Would it still mean a difference of opinion between me and my partner...? See how I'm still trying to make it fit? Funny.

The irony here is that he's as excited about this position as I am because it involves an area he's really keen on. There looks to actually be a chance of bringing him on as a contractor in some capactiy. Perhaps this is what I was being told - that perhaps I wouldn't be able to do that and it would cause a rift, or I would be able to bring him on and it would cause a rift.

I will definitely consult with coins on the other two. I used an online i ching for this throw and I tend not to trust those as much as I do actually touching the coins.

I'll let you know what comes up.

Thanks,
M

 

[willowfox]

""I asked the I Ching what would happen if I was to take the position (they're down to 2 applicants) and received 38 - no changing lines. I asked what the impact to my family (me and my partner) specifically would be if I joined the new company."

Well, I think that accepting the new job will be okay but it will cause problems between you and your partner. There could be disagreements and misunderstandings that will make you unhappy and your partner mistrustful and given to doubts. The job will separate you into opposing camps.
Now, when the problems start to show, then make your move, talk to your partner, discuss the issues but whatever you do, don't give into to anger, be tolerant and reasonable. To repair any damage done at the beginning will have to be done in small steps but if you work together on this you can eventually iron out the problems, this in turn will lead to change, renewal and growth. The state of oppostion is only a temporary thing but you have to resolve the issues together, they must not be allowed to fester and grow.
Now, you know what to expect in your relationship, do you still want to accept the job?

Will they give you the job in the first week of January, 2007?

Hex 38 indicates the time between 17th-24th of December.

 

[melcomcosh101]

As a matter of fact, I believe if there will be an offer, it will be before Christmas, so the date range you've suggested is uncanny. How did you get that date for Hex 38?

Here's another interesting tidbit. When I was offered the last job, I got 3.2 transforming to 60. I decided not to take that job. Willow, you said that another job opportunity could happen early to mid December, with the next opportunity being in July. Pretty amazing accuracy.

Will I take the job if it's offered? Probably. If the money is close, and the benefits even, it's a job far better suited to my interests and skillsets. But I have reservations about it causing problems with my partner. I don't think I'd turn it down based on that, even though it makes me a bit nervous.

Bleah! Do you ever wish you hadn't asked? ;-)

M

 

[melcomcosh101]

In response to Dobro:

"What do I need to know about staying in the present job?"

I just threw 18.4.6 transforming to 32. Which seems to imply that I have to clean up what's wrong in the present position instead of bolting. I have to tell you, that's a pretty difficult decision right now. The job has really bad hours, is incredibly stressful and is completely vexxing on a daily basis. Not sure what the payoff of 32 would be in this situation.

"What do I need to know about trying to get a new job other than the one I just asked about?"

35.2.4.6 --> 7

This seems to imply some great act of leadership is coming, one that will bestow "great presents" and power, not like a ruler, but rather a general. A little more inspiring than 38, I must say. But perhaps I'm missing something here...

Thoughts?

M

 

[willowfox]

""What do I need to know about staying in the present job?" I just threw 18.4.6 transforming to 32"

Hex 18.4 problems from the past are now begining to weaken your position in your present job, if you continue here you will suffer humiliation.

Hex 18.6 it is time to leave and set your sights on something better.

Hex 32 time to move, a time of change, therefore a time to leave your old job and start again someplace else.

"What do I need to know about trying to get a new job other than the one I just asked about? 35.2.4.6 --> 7"

Hex 35.2,4,6 progress in looking for yet another job is stuck because it seems that you are seeking employment with a boss, a woman, that you know but are unable to contact at the moment. When you do finally reach her she will offer you a job. There is also a warning here not to use devious means to get what you want, and don't try to be pushy either because that course of action will get you into trouble.

Hex 7 suggests that you must be well organised, disciplined and ready to fight for what you want, you must do the leg work here, think very carefully about what you want and how you are going to proceed to get it. Do everything carefully and you should succeed.

I still think the job that you are now waiting on sounds good, and it certainly seems that you must resign from your present job, so wouldn't it be wise to at least give it a go while you are still searching for something else? You know that problems may well arise so you can prepare for them in advance. What do you think?

 

[melcomcosh101]

Well, this may be a moot point. I just had the second interview, and although they were very impressed with me, and I said all the right things, they seemed to choke a bit on salary requirements. They asked me what I was looking for and I told them what I made currently and they blanched a bit. Although I could take a minor pay cut, I can't take a big one, or lose my benefits, because my fiance is unwell (Lyme Disease) and needs a lot of medications.

Although I need to make a change, I'm still not sure if this will end up being the right opportunity to do so. They might not even offer the position because there's such a big discrepancy in the salary range (i.e. they will assume I am overqualified). We shall see.

Perhaps this is what the I Ching was trying to tell me about estrangement?

Thanks again for all your insights.

M

 

[dobro p]

In response to Dobro:

"What do I need to know about staying in the present job?"

I just threw 18.4.6 transforming to 32. Which seems to imply that I have to clean up what's wrong in the present position instead of bolting. I have to tell you, that's a pretty difficult decision right now. The job has really bad hours, is incredibly stressful and is completely vexxing on a daily basis. Not sure what the payoff of 32 would be in this situation.

I think you just about nailed it. The Yi seems to be saying that if you stay in the present job you'll have to clean up the decay and corruption in that situation in order to hang in there. (32's the 'hang in there' bit.)

"What do I need to know about trying to get a new job other than the one I just asked about?"

35.2.4.6 --> 7

This seems to imply some great act of leadership is coming, one that will bestow "great presents" and power, not like a ruler, but rather a general. A little more inspiring than 38, I must say. But perhaps I'm missing something here...

I read 35 as 'making progress and thriving in the public eye' and 7 as 'organizing and guiding great force'. Put 'em together and you get: getting a new job represents thriving progress that you're going to have to put a lot of well-thought out energy into to make it work.

Overall, it looks like it would be really good to abandon the crummy job and find a better one.

 

[melcomcosh101]

OK - are you ready for this?

I was contemplating a new job offer yesterday and was feeling really unsure about whether it would be a good move. I threw 7 transforming to 14. Seemed like a good read on the job - implied a lot of responsibility, leadership, opportunity. All good.

Then I looked back at this thread out of curiosity and realized that back in December I had thrown the following hex in response to ""What do I need to know about trying to get a new job other than the one I just asked about?" suggested by Dobro.

35.2.4.6 --> 7

I looked up Willow and Dobro's notes on this as well:

Willow:

Hex 35.2,4,6 progress in looking for yet another job is stuck because it seems that you are seeking employment with a boss, a woman, that you know but are unable to contact at the moment. When you do finally reach her she will offer you a job. There is also a warning here not to use devious means to get what you want, and don't try to be pushy either because that course of action will get you into trouble.

Dobro:
I read 35 as 'making progress and thriving in the public eye' and 7 as 'organizing and guiding great force'. Put 'em together and you get: getting a new job represents thriving progress that you're going to have to put a lot of well-thought out energy into to make it work.

So here's the freaky part:

1. I was looking for this job to happen as far back as November, but we were blocked by some formalities to submit me. Couldn't make contact. Didn't push it.
2. The position is very public - what I do will be in front of thousands of people.
3. I was hired by a woman!

So, on to my last question on this post: 7 transforming to 14: 7.1, 7.3, 7.4, 7.6.

It seems to me to be a pretty good hex to have thrown at this point. Any last thoughts?

 

[willowfox]

"I was contemplating a new job offer yesterday and was feeling really unsure about whether it would be a good move. I threw 7.1,3,4,6 transforming to 14."

Hex 7.1 says to be neat, tidy and well organized. Self discipline.

Hex 7.3 perhaps you are feeling uncertain about the job, nevermind, set you mind on winning, be clear that you want this job.

Hex 7.4 do not push yourself, wait and see what happens as you still face some obstacles.

Hex 7.6 you have won the job.

Hex 14 achievement, great possessions, great good fortune, this is really good.

 

[melcomcosh101]

Willow,

Well that certainly is good news! Thank you so much for all your help over the past few months - it's been really great.