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line 1 of hexagram 59 and line 2 of hexagram 36 "help / aid with the horse"

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nAstWr

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I searched on the forum so as to find a thread about the meaning of these 2 lines. Actually, both are referred to the 'help / aid with the strength of the horse'. Could you please help me to interpret the similarity of both lines?

Line 1 of 59 has as resulting hexagram the hex61
Line 2 of 36 has as resulting hexagram the hex11

Would you mind to share with us some translations of the lines? what could be the horse? Any real experiences?

(I have received both lines recently. Specifically, I received hex 59 <1>61 as an answer when I asked yi if I will remain alone for a long time.)
 

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I searched on the forum so as to find a thread about the meaning of these 2 lines. Actually, both are referred to the 'help / aid with the strength of the horse'. Could you please help me to interpret the similarity of both lines? ...
... Would you mind to share with us some translations of the lines? what could be the horse? Any real experiences?...
... Specifically, I received hex 59 <1>61 as an answer when I asked yi if I will remain alone for a long time.)
Hi nAstrWr:

I apologize for delaying so much.

First o all about the HORSE. There are many different trasnlations available. I will post now some of the mine.

59.1:
用拯馬壯吉。
yong4 zheng3 ma3 zhuang4 ji2
USE HELP HORSE STRENGHTENING LUCKY
Using to help the horse strenghtening is lucky.​

This happens in the context of H.59 SCATTERING that says:

渙 亨。王假有廟。利涉大川。利貞。
huan4 heng1 wang2 jia3 you3 miao4 li4 she4 da4 chuan1 li4 zhen1
SCATTERING FEAST. KINGS BORROWED HAVE TEMPLES.
PROFITABLE TO WADE THE GREAT RIVER. PROFITABLE OMEN.
Celebraton of scattering (what? I believe the seed).
Kings have borrowed (say, temporary) temples.
For those that are not kings, is twice profitable to cross the great river.

All that leads to H.61 CENTRE CAPTIVE (Do catch the centre), that says:

中孚 豚魚吉。利涉大川。利貞。
zhong1 fu2 tun2 yu2 ji2 li4 she4 da4 chuan1 li4 zhen1
CENTRE CAPTIVE PIGLETS FISHES LUCKY
PROFITABLE TO WADE THE GREAT RIVER. PROFITABLE OMEN.
Catch the centre, realize wat is the more important: piglets and fishes are lucky.
I believe: Boys and Girls are Lucky.
It follows the same advice: to cross the great river is twice lucky.

Resuming: 59.1 > 61 brings a very profitable prognostication if you follow the advice of crossing the great river.

I believe that depends on your behavior not staying too much alone.

For more orientation you must understand some hidden clues:

1) What role play kings in the context of your consult?

2) What must you help for being lucky?

3) What's the meaning of the animals, the horse, the piglets and the fishes?

4) What will happen after crossing the big river?


As soon as possible I will tell you what I believe is one of the answers for each question. Could you post your answers, be it tentative, to that?

(to be continued)

All the best.

Charly
 
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nAstWr

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Dear Charly, I was expecting for your post.
I am looking forward for the rest..
 

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