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Major typo on this posting, the change was 61.1.2.5 to 23. Inner truth, with all the subtleties of inner connection and communication, to 23 splitting away. I have edited this to reflect that, so the responses may not seem totally on point, as the typo said 21-23. Which would be a lot less confusing to me maybe, if it actually added up. - LL

The question here asked was

"What is the current effect, of the people who were negatively influential in the past, on the current relationship?"
The reading was EDIT 61.1.2.5>23.

The confusing thing is all the (61) lines seem quite positive, extremely so, but the resultant 23 "Splitting Apart" hex very, very negative.

Anyone have thoughts on this, in a relationship reading?

Thanks.
 
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My thought is that you should quit thinking about positive and negative.
 

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Ok - so is that the extent of your thoughts?

On that matter, yes. Thinking in terms of positive and negative will prevent you from ever understanding anything about the Yijing. If you can't get past it you might as well pursue something else.
 
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That is a tough one! Sounds like a real crappy situation:cloud:. I'm not sure... I don't think anyone outside the relationship has the power to determine ending it though. I have a few ideas here, but as you know, I'm no expert.

Idea 1
The 23 might be pointing to these dark forces intent to undermine something light, your relationship. It's the external influence, perhaps. Might be read as overcoming undermining.


Idea 2

Or, could mean their influence will bring something to your attention, some problem, and the relationship will end, at least as you know it.

One thing that stands out to me here is that the lines seem to point to revealing the root of some problem. This makes proper action possible. I've read 23 can be seen similarly, as a stripping away to get to the bottom of things. Hope this helps you...

Lise
6 at 5: Biting dried-out meat. Acquiring gold. Determination danger. No fault.
When one makes the root of difficulties visible or conscious, one creates the possibility to do something about it. There is a natural resistance against doing this, because it means change, which is usually hazardous. But it also means a new life - or even a life at last.

Wilhelm
The case to be decided is indeed not easy but perfectly clear. Since we naturally incline to leniency, we must make every effort to be like yellow gold – that is, as true as gold and as impartial as yellow, the color of the middle [the mean]. It is only by remaining conscious of the dangers growing out of the responsibility we have assumed that we can avoid making mistakes

Perhaps, the dark forces in 23 help bring something to light. This information is the light needed to overcome these dark forces. That's all I got. I apologize for the lack of detail:eek:
 
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On that matter, yes. Thinking in terms of positive and negative will prevent you from ever understanding anything about the Yijing. If you can't get past it you might as well pursue something else.

"What makes you think that's a bad thing?"

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Thanks DWF. sorry for the typo! I love the hex 61 as you know, just trying to understand how the beautiful relationships in 61.1.2.5 lead to 23. Unless the things being discarded in 23, unneeded things being removed are disintegrating - negative - forces causing tension in the relationship.

Which would mean perhaps now they are being more supportive? Hmm.
 

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Major typo on this posting, the change was 61.1.2.5 to 23. Inner truth, with all the subtleties of inner connection and communication, to 23 splitting away. I have edited this to reflect that, so the responses may not seem totally on point, as the typo said 21-23. Which would be a lot less confusing to me maybe, if it actually added up. - LL

The question here asked was

"What is the current effect, of the people who were negatively influential in the past, on the current relationship?"
The reading was EDIT 61.1.2.5>23.

The confusing thing is all the (61) lines seem quite positive, extremely so, but the resultant 23 "Splitting Apart" hex very, very negative.

Anyone have thoughts on this, in a relationship reading?

Thanks.

:confused: you are seeing the second/relating hexagram, what you call the resultant hexagram , as the 'result' as the 'outcome'. It isn't, its the backdrop, the context...as others have said the second hexagram is 'the sea the primary hexagram swims in'

If you make that fundamental shift the answer should make sense. You are coming to the question from the backdrop of 23, of things falling apart., it isn't where you are heading
 
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Thanks Trojan. I realized I asked the "current effect" of the past negative forces, and that's right there in the "Splitting apart" - this is true. But it seems like the current _influences_ are more positive than in the past, and may be contributing a different energy now into the situation. And that certainly has to be a good thing!

LL
 
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Doh!:duh:, i got the hexagram wrong. I read 21. I just got this exact same reading for my last relationship I think. See 61.1.2.5_23 Why So Mean?, Posted by DWF.

When 61 comes up, and I get this one a lot, I think there is something you already know deep down. I think the Yi is saying "pay attention to your own intuition.". What do you feel the effect has been? What is your gut feeling about the relationship?

As far as 23 goes, I'm not sure what that would mean here. I think Trojan has a good point though. The verbiage of the question suggests this may be the backdrop.
 
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