Love Attraction

[Mayorka]

I had asked about a man in my life who I am interested but he seems to be stuck in his past and there is no interest towards me..
The answers seem to show there is no hope between us and a lot of times I have received 23 unchanging.

The thing is... yesterday I asked I ching about and I told: I want to be in relationship with him.
Iching answered with: 61, 2, 3 to 37

Do you have any idea what could mean? It seems an auspicious answer but I can't believe it can apply between us...

 

[Luise74]

I had asked about a man in my life who I am interested but he seems to be stuck in his past and there is no interest towards me..
The answers seem to show there is no hope between us and a lot of times I have received 23 unchanging.

The thing is... yesterday I asked I ching about and I told: I want to be in relationship with him.
Iching answered with: 61, 2, 3 to 37

Do you have any idea what could mean? It seems an auspicious answer but I can't believe it can apply between us...

Sorry but are you sure he is not married and has a family? Wish your dream comes true and I am wrong. All the best, dear.

 

[Mayorka]

Sorry but are you sure he is not married and has a family? Wish your dream comes true and I am wrong. All the best, dear.

No no he isn't married, we are working together. But his ex is everywhere even if he is single..

 

[diamant]

I want to be in relationship with him. 61.2.3 > 37

61.2 a parental type of relationship.
61.3 a relationship between two enemies.
37 a family formed, based on the above two principles.

So since he isn't in love with you, you might have some luck with him if you mother him, and if you participate in his game of one-upping each other all the time. You'll need to accept that love isn't a part of this equation.

 

[Mayorka]

I want to be in relationship with him. 61.2.3 > 37

61.2 a parental type of relationship.
61.3 a relationship between two enemies.
37 a family formed, based on the above two principles.

So since he isn't in love with you, you might have some luck with him if you mother him, and if you participate in his game of one-upping each other all the time. You'll need to accept that love isn't a part of this equation.

Actually, is strange but whenever we talk he always open himself and talk to me about how he slept, what time he woke up, where has he been etc...I mean we are strangers and he opens himself to me like we know each other for years..
With the answers I have received for him I can't see any hope for a relationship.. moreover, I think he is too busy to think about love.. But I haven't felt this kind of attraction for nobody else.. And he isn't this type of guy that you call 'handsome'.. I really don't know how to describe.. I just want him...

 

[diamant]

I know the feeling you're describing, it's as if you're mesmerised by him, which is not a good sign. It sounds like he loves talking about himself.

 

[diamant]

like we know each other for years

Too much too soon. Not a good sign, be wary.

 

[Mayorka]

I know the feeling you're describing, it's as if you're mesmerised by him, which is not a good sign. It sounds like he loves talking about himself.

Good point. It could be a sign of self-centered behavior.

 

[rosada]

Not quite sure what your exact question was but anyway I'm seeing 61.2.3 - 37 as describing the relationship as it is now.
37. could mean your work situation is like a family group with people playing roles similar to the roles we see played in families.

61.2 Could mean that in this setting he is playing the role of the child as he loves to tell you all his thoughts but it doesn't occur to him to ask about yours. You are playing the part of the mother, you are delighted by him and want to love and encourage him to express himself but...

61.3 You are aware that for an adult relationship this needs to be a two way street. He needs to show an interest in your life or eventually he'll be wanting to tell "Mom" all about his new girlfriends!

So what to do? Embrace the Earth Mother role and bring the whole office snacks and cookies? Or maybe ask him specific questions rather than just letting him ramble? If he has to think and GIVE you answers he might come to pay more attention to who he's giving to and want to then ask you questions and finally grow up and see you as an equal, not just as Mom.

 

[diamant]

Or maybe ask him specific questions rather than just letting him ramble?

She could ask, "poor you, who is doing the cleaning and laundry since you split up with your ex? do you need help?", I bet his 'love' would instantly increase.

 

[Mayorka]

Ok, I must mention that he is an aquarious... I had a relationship with an aquarious for 4 years and he was indeed a person who needed my attention and take care of him like a baby... It was the best relationship of my life...
Anyway, I asked If there is anything I can do to make a relationship with him:
9, 2, 4, 5 to 30

I should try to bring him to me? I must be sincere and blood and fear will be vanish.. Ok.. there is no blood here, ok I want him but I feel completely fine... As about line 5 actually I enrich him financially as he is working for me. I am confused.

 

[Trojina]

This is the forum that kills all romance stone dead

I'm not following where all this stuff about him needing you to be a mum to him comes from.

Hexagram 61, Inner Truth, sincerity, deep feelings, subjectivity.

The question was

The thing is... yesterday I asked I ching about and I told: I want to be in relationship with him.
Iching answered with: 61, 2, 3 to 37

61.2

'Calling crane in the shadows,
Its young one responds in harmony.
I have a beloved wine cup,
I will share myself, simply pouring it out.'

61.2 is to do with hidden feelings, often quite a spiritual bond that isn't expressed outwardly. It's beautiful though not always actually developing into a 'real' everyday relationship.



61.3

'Gaining an equal.
Maybe beating the drum, maybe ceasing.
Maybe weeping, maybe singing.'

This can be quite volatile, people impacting on one another's moods. One moment you feel on top of the world about this, the next you feel so low. You're bouncing off one another's energies, responding quite strongly to each other. It's all quite emotional, this is a very emotional cast.


Your question was 'I want to be in a relationship with him'. You already are in a relationship with him in a sense.

All these deep feelings on your part, I think he can feel them.

But 37 asks 'where does this fit in to my life, the structure of my life ?' What roles can you have for one another ? With line 2 there's love but often it can find no clear role to act that out but still the crane calls from the shadows, there's sharing on some subtle level.



Now let's look at the reality, what he says, we can't make a relationship out of Yi answers we need his consent

I had asked about a man in my life who I am interested but he seems to be stuck in his past and there is no interest towards me..

He's showing no interest and seems stuck in the past. What can one do with a man who shows no interest ? Are you sure he shows no interest ? Do you talk a lot ? I ask because there seems a lot of back and forth between you in the reading.


I don't want to encourage false hope, you must always heed what he is communicating to you but I think with 61.2 there there is some subtle hidden feelings of a fairly delicate nature. I don't think he's the kind of man who just wants sex, seems his attitude to you is more sensitive.

 

[Mayorka]

This is the forum that kills all romance stone dead

I'm not following where all this stuff about him needing you to be a mum to him comes from.

Hexagram 61, Inner Truth, sincerity, deep feelings, subjectivity.

The question was


61.2

'Calling crane in the shadows,
Its young one responds in harmony.
I have a beloved wine cup,
I will share myself, simply pouring it out.'

61.2 is to do with hidden feelings, often quite a spiritual bond that isn't expressed outwardly. It's beautiful though not always actually developing into a 'real' everyday relationship.



61.3

'Gaining an equal.
Maybe beating the drum, maybe ceasing.
Maybe weeping, maybe singing.'

This can be quite volatile, people impacting on one another's moods. One moment you feel on top of the world about this, the next you feel so low. You're bouncing off one another's energies, responding quite strongly to each other. It's all quite emotional, this is a very emotional cast.


Your question was 'I want to be in a relationship with him'. You already are in a relationship with him in a sense.

All these deep feelings on your part, I think he can feel them.

But 37 asks 'where does this fit in to my life, the structure of my life ?' What roles can you have for one another ? With line 2 there's love but often it can find no clear role to act that out but still the crane calls from the shadows, there's sharing on some subtle level.



Now let's look at the reality, what he says, we can't make a relationship out of Yi answers we need his consent



He's showing no interest and seems stuck in the past. What can one do with a man who shows no interest ? Are you sure he shows no interest ? Do you talk a lot ? I ask because there seems a lot of back and forth between you in the reading.


I don't want to encourage false hope, you must always heed what he is communicating to you but I think with 61.2 there there is some subtle hidden feelings of a fairly delicate nature. I don't think he's the kind of man who just wants sex, seems his attitude to you is more sensitive.

Your post Trojina gives me hope.. but it is difficult to believe that there are might be hidden feelings for me... Actually, perhaps at the beginning I felt that he likes me..for example, even if we had both work to do he was with me 1 hour and we were talking...giving a lot of attention...Moreover, he usually agrees with me and supports me... but.. the ex is everywhere in social media, even if his status is single, they have photos together (they were together for 5 years) I am not going to do anything towards him if the past is still around and he doesn't seem to make any step... So I am confused. Moreover, I have received many times hex 23 uc about him... So I believe action is not the right move.

Looking above the answer I received 'If there is anything I can do to make a relationship with him':
9, 2, 4, 5 to 30
I am wondering what it means and if the answer is about his ex... I don't know what to think....

 

[Mayorka]

She could ask, "poor you, who is doing the cleaning and laundry since you split up with your ex? do you need help?", I bet his 'love' would instantly increase.

I cook as well...

 

[diamant]

Mayorka, how do you know she is his ex (and not still current)?

 

[Mayorka]

Mayorka, how do you know she is his ex (and not still current)?

It could be true. I concluded he is single because this is his relationship status in social networks.. Moreover, He is interested in 'women' on facebook...

Anyway I asked I ching:
Has he got a relationship?
37.2 >9
Perhaps he is still in relationship with her but I believe it will end soon..

 

[diamant]

Has he got a relationship? 37.2 > 9
He does have someone who provides 'food' to him.
That's a bit funny, because you mentioned you can cook, well it looks like that position is taken.
Food is also a metaphor for basic sex.
So yes, he does have someone, but not out of love, just to cover his basic needs.

 

[Mayorka]

What about if there is a possibility that he lives with his mother (his father passed away)?

 

[diamant]

No I don't think so, sorry. You asked if he has a relationship and the answer has an active female line, it's quite clear.

 

[marybluesky]

Mayorka,

What do you mean by saying he shows no interest to you? Do you mean no tension, no attraction is felt? Or rather, he doesn't seem interested in developing a relationship?

Some readers believe that 37 indicates being already in a commited relationship. I don't know.

61.2 shows a subtle, beautiful connection, and 61.3 means feelings sometimes up and sometimes down.

37.2 is imperative and I think it talks to you: stay in your center & nourish yourself. 9- small taming- confirms that.

 

[Mayorka]

No I don't think so, sorry. You asked if he has a relationship and the answer has an active female line, it's quite clear.

No problem at all. It seems a very complicated relationship..
I have asked about him and his ex/current partner. Their relationship will end sooner or later. I have a lot of bad experience with men and their past that's why I don't want to get involved.

 

[Mayorka]

37.2 is imperative and I think it talks to you: stay in your center & nourish yourself. 9- small taming- confirms that.

It could be an interpretation.

 

[Matali]

Hello
My hypothesis :
37.2 : he is married (does he have children?). In my opinion, you have an investigation to do.... If he is not married, it strongly resembles a married life.

61.2.3 : he has a lover with whom he gets along well...

 

[Trojina]

Your post Trojina gives me hope.. but it is difficult to believe that there are might be hidden feelings for me... Actually, perhaps at the beginning I felt that he likes me..for example, even if we had both work to do he was with me 1 hour and we were talking...giving a lot of attention...Moreover, he usually agrees with me and supports me... but.. the ex is everywhere in social media, even if his status is single, they have photos together (they were together for 5 years) I am not going to do anything towards him if the past is still around and he doesn't seem to make any step... So I am confused. Moreover, I have received many times hex 23 uc about him... So I believe action is not the right move.

Looking above the answer I received 'If there is anything I can do to make a relationship with him':
9, 2, 4, 5 to 30
I am wondering what it means and if the answer is about his ex... I don't know what to think....

Didn't want to give you hope given what you said but on the other hand it seems pretty absurd to me to take a pretty nice answer and turn it all into something diabolical. I don't get all the mocking from other people that he needs a mum and all that, it has nothing to do with the answer.

In your shoes I wouldn't be taking any action towards him, not when he's made it clear it's his ex he is interested in. Again that doesn't change the fact this wasn't a bad reading in terms of mutual feeling, you know it just isn't. But remember Yi won't necessarily be referring to romantic feelings, just feelings. With this cast I certainly wouldn't expect a blank empty space between 2 people and I don't think there is but that doesn't mean romance. So from Yi's perspective just because there's no romantic action so to speak does not mean you and he do not connect as human beings.

9.2.4.5>30 I think all you can do is cultivate what you have already. This is another answer where sharing features, see line 5.

I don't think you should build up hope but on the other hand if you want to keep talking to him, why not. This is 9, things are slow to develop. You maybe will gain more clarity about his situation (30) through small everyday encounters (9) and through sharing (9.5). There seems generosity somewhere, it's just you had several lines now about sincere giving

Anyway I asked I ching:
Has he got a relationship?
37.2 >9
Perhaps he is still in relationship with her but I believe it will end soon..

Be clear no one can possibly make out they know as if it were a fact whether he has got a relationship through this answer nor any other. So if you want to know if he has a relationship you will have to find out through other means.

37.2 here could well be saying all you need to do is focus on your own concerns, you don't need to go looking for more information right now.

 

[Mayorka]

It's interesting.... I asked if there is any hope for relationship with him: 37, 1, 2, > 57
37.2 again... Does the answer shows a picture of his relationship or is it about us? Perhaps I am the one who should focus on my own concerns and nothing more..Any ideas about?

 

[Trojina]

I think this answer asks you to keep your boundaries firmly in place. If he wants to seek you out it's up to him but you are in your own place cooking food, baking cakes, contented in your world. It seems to say you should go calmly and contentedly about your business and you do have the capacity to experience being content and being content is good for the health. You don't have to shut him out, you probably can't anyway not with 57 there.

It's up to him to come to you there's nothing much you can do. If he doesn't come to you then well it's his loss.

 

[marybluesky]

37.1 is about setting boundaries & 37.2 is staying in center & cooking. 57 is subtly penetrating into a situation.

Makes me think that, if you progress with right boundaries & stay in center- have a balanced position- and take care of your life, the relationship can develop little by little.

 

[Mayorka]

It's up to him to come to you there's nothing much you can do. If he doesn't come to you then well it's his loss.

I absolutely agree with you Trojina and marybluesky. Anyway, I don't want to make any move if his past is still present..

 

[Mayorka]

Looking the first answer I have received about any hope for a romantic relationship with him (it seems I have asked a lot of times)...
20, 3, 5, > 52
Contemplation of advance and retreat 20.3, contemplation of my life 20.5 > 52
The answer agrees with your replies...
I retreat from any action for a romantic relationship...need to focus in my life and my business.. time will tell if there will be any hope for relationship.

 

[redoleander]

“The answers seem to show there is no hope between us and a lot of times I have received 23 unchanging.

The thing is... yesterday I asked I ching about and I told: I want to be in relationship with him.
Iching answered with: 61, 2, 3 to 37”

This makes a lot more sense now; I’m not sure why the mention of receiving many 23UC was not centered but i think when continuing it ask the same question even though the answer is a clear “no”, Yi finds other ways to respond. 61.2 is the connection you feel and 61.3 is having to mourn that it can’t be, that you’re “losing” the connection you imagined because he has a family (37). 61.2 is the type of easy connection and rapport that you don’t have to force it just comes naturally. I don’t think it’s inherently romantic. It can be but I can also think of so many times I had flowing communication with someone and instant rapport and they thought we were flirting but I wasn’t, just connecting. Hidden line 42.3; this is a painful learning experience to accept and grow from.