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Marriage as fulfillment? 30.3.4 -> 27

elizabeth

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Show me how marriage will fulfill me in my life.
Answer: Hex 30.3.4 The Clinging --> Hex 27. Corners of Mouth/Providing Nourishment

30. Li / The Clinging, Fire
above Li The Clinging, Flame
below Li The Clinging, Flame

The Judgement
The Clinging. Perseverance furthers.
It brings success.
Care of the cow brings good fortune.

The Image
That which is bright rises twice:
The image of Fire.
Thus the great man, by perpetuating this brightness,
Illumines the four quarters of the world.

Line 3: In the light of the setting sun,
Men either beat the pot and sing
Or loudly bewail the approach of old age.
Misfortune.

Line 4: Its coming is sudden;
It flames up, dies down, is thrown away.

and hex 27, The Corners of the Mouth.
Judgement: Perseverance brings good fortune.
Pay heed to the providing of nourishment.
And to what a man seeks
To fill his own mouth with.

The Image
At the foot of the mountain, thunder:
The image of Providing Nourishment.
Thus the superior man is careful of his words
And temperate in eating and drinking.

--Generally speaking I've read that fire over fire= Dazzling brightness, dont be blinded, be careful. Love, as they say is blind, so maybe this is a warning?

About hex 30 (from another site): success and the fact that docility like that of a cow will lead to good fortune.

Line 3 = Celebrate your past life as well as what the future holds (??)
Line 4= "what goes up fast, comes down fast too" (?) Real success comes slowly.

But how those relate to marriage... I can't really see.

To me these lines are warnings. Does anyone see something else here?
 

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But how those relate to marriage... I can't really see.

To me these lines are warnings. Does anyone see something else here?


It seems to me you're making huge assumptions again hence the warning :)

1) Maybe you won't get married. 2) Maybe you'll live with someone. 3) Marriage doesn't bring fulfilment on it's own 4) marriage is different for everyone 5) The Yi can't show you how marriage WILL fulfil your life when that is entirely up to you.

Line 3: Stop bewailing things and being unsatisfied and live in the present.

Line 4: Stop being self-indulgent

30 - 27 separate from things which use up your energy too quickly like circular thinking or wasted energy on ideas, projects and people that do not nourish you. Find out what your support system is and nourishment will follow. That support system often starts with our perception of ourselves.

Topal
 

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Ay yay yay. I'm just on a roll here aren't I? ;-)

Here I thought if I asked about marriage as fulfillment the answer itself would HINT at what is in store for me. In other words, a negative answer - marriage not fulfilling for me - therefore chances are greater that I will not get married. A positive answer, chances greater that I had a soulmate out there.

I'm walking *around* the question but maybe the Yi will not answer this at all, namely about one's purpose in life, one's path, one's gifts. I do not feel confused or lost or on the wrong path...but I felt like "checking"... and I get the wild card each time. *sigh*. I guess it serves me right -- but maybe it's just a brain blockage or something. I guess I'll just forget about asking these questions, or at least forget asking the Yi about them! :)
 

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I see 30 as representing two equals who are fulfilled independantly. That is, the I Ching seems to be saying marrage is not necessarily two halves making one whole, but two complete adults who go into a conscious agreement to live together and support each other because after all..
30.3 You can grow old with singing with a partner or you can grow old all by yourself but you ARE going to grow old.
But as for finding a fated true love, that fantasy will
30.4 Flare up and die down quick enough. So don't look to marry your "Soulmate," just find someone with whom you share some mutual interests. Someone..
27. Who nourishes you and whom you like to nourish in return.
 

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Ay yay yay. I'm just on a roll here aren't I? ;-)

Here I thought if I asked about marriage as fulfillment the answer itself would HINT at what is in store for me. In other words, a negative answer - marriage not fulfilling for me - therefore chances are greater that I will not get married. A positive answer, chances greater that I had a soulmate out there.

I'm walking *around* the question but maybe the Yi will not answer this at all, namely about one's purpose in life, one's path, one's gifts. I do not feel confused or lost or on the wrong path...but I felt like "checking"... and I get the wild card each time. *sigh*. I guess it serves me right -- but maybe it's just a brain blockage or something. I guess I'll just forget about asking these questions, or at least forget asking the Yi about them! :)


:rofl: Believe me Elizabeth, I get like that sometimes. But you can't trick Madam Yi! :D

The thing is, (and after Rosada's wise post) you can see that essentially, there's not much one can do about forcing the soul-mate towards us other than being the best can we be while treading that path - whatever it is - on one's own. That's all part of it I think, frustrating as that might be sometimes.

Asking about one's path is definitely part of the IC's domain but I guess it's the way we ask it. Perhaps we have to be really clear about our intention otherwise, more often than not in such cases, the answer will zero in on the energy behind the question. At least it seems that way to me.

So, don't be downhearted. I do think you're getting some good answers from the oracle that can make this "checking" more fruitful than it may at first appear...

Topal
 
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Hi Elizabeth

Just in case the comment could be useful

Romantic Love (30) can't fulfill a life wich needs to be nourished by ourselves (27). Otherwise, we depend on others, but that works only for a short time; is not a real fulfillment

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Rosada, Topal and Jesed -- many thanks for your posts.

Rosada -- your interpretation of 30.4 to 27 hit home to me -- that makes a big enough statement itself. That the big overwhelming fated "true love soulmate" may not be out there but to find someone that you "click" with. That says a lot to me already, and (essentially) lowers expectations and, in doing so, increases possibility! :)

Topal -- You're right, and after letting some of these posts and interpretations sink in, I really have received more information here than it at first appeared! You certainly can't outwit the YI! :)

Jesed -- Greetings! Long time no..type! :) As always your comments to me are very useful. That concise one-line interpretation tells me a lot about myself (that I maybe didnt realize) and helps me better think about the future, if a marriage prospect were to appear. Thanks for the comments :)
 

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You're missing a line. The first post reads 30.3.4 > 27 so I guess that's what she was referring to.
 

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30.3.4 > 27.

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Hi Topal! Guess we crossed posts....

Interesting that 30.4 leads to Fantasy 22!
 

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This thread is from 2007, 8 years ago....
 

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A lot of these old threads have been popping up lately it's been quite interesting to revisit them - especially since a lot of them are pretty funny.
 

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