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frank_r said:In 11 there is a changing in heaven to wind, from metal to wood and in 12 there is a change from earth to wood. So the connection here is wood. But at the same time they are opposites a yin and yang wood.
So in 11, a harmonious sign, where the action of the trigrams is towards each other is changing to a yin wood sign. A more reducing and spreading action.
And in 12, where the action of the father and mother are in oppsite direction is changing in a yang wood sign. A more involving action towards each other.
martin said:In 63.1 the tail that gets wet is not a prognosis, it has already happened. The prognosis is that the fox will be more careful from now on.
lightofreason said:IC+ 12.4
Line 4
"The realization that one's fate is in one's hands. [lines 1,2,3 imply outside control]. No harm in this for it introduces new possibilities in all directions."
frank_r said:Funny I refer line 1,2 and 3 most of the time with my inner self the part where I can be in control.
lightofreason said:lets see --- eranos 63.1
Pulling-back one's wheels. Yi Lun
Soaking one's tail. Ju Wei
Without fault. Wu Chiu
64.1
Soaking one's tail. Ju Wei
Abashment. Lin
martin said:Anyway, I was just trying to be picky . What interests me more is what I mentioned in my second post, that the second hexagram that you get when a line changes doesn't tell the whole story about the line. It's more complicated.
If we assume that the second hexagram does tell the whole story, it would imply - I think - that the line commentaries are only valid if one line changes, not if there are two or more.
martin said:What about right or wrong place, correlate or not, centrality, etcetera then? These are factors that play a role regardless of the second hexagram.
If, for example, hex 12 changes to 13 (line 1 and 3 changing) the line comments on line 1 and 3 are still valid, at least insofar they were based on these factors. I think ..
This is my translation (which is actually quite close to Bradford's):hilary said:12.4 is a good one to keep the translators among us happy. So many possibilities, so few words.
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