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rosada said:Looking at it this way, I'm seeing 7.2 as emphasizing the importance of the leader being on the ground with the troups, the leader may not know what the best solution is, but by being in the field, the leader then can tap in to 2. Intuition, to find the next best move...I'm getting over and over here a sence that one of the key tips the I Ching gives is that while it's important to start with a plan, or an intention, one must then get onto the field, get involved, be a part of the action to learn what to do next. Life cannot be lived from an ivory tower...Hex. 7. seems to be a very physical energy to me. Been doing a lot of moving around and moving around in co-ordinated group efforts since we started on this one. We talk about it being similar to a teacher and a class, but I gotta say, I think it's a P.E. or a shop class, not a sit quietly and read experience.
rosada said:Also we never made any comment about 7.1 leading to 19. Any ideas? .
lightofreason said:with/from uniforming comes approaching/defering
touches on issues of the high deferring to the low, the low allowed to approach the high. Very 'unmilitary' conduct or more so 'unnatural' for a hierarchy.
This reminds me of a feather-diagram. The tip of the feather (the anchor point) represents the specific situation/thing/relationship/behavior (whatever) is being examined. The veins that hook together to make up the body of the feather are each of the elements that feed into the anchor point - the army.rosada said:7.2
In the midst of the army,
Good fortune. No blame.
The king bestows a triple decoration.
hilary said:Ah, now we understand 2 as the archetypal feminine: the ability to ask directions.
denis_m said:There is a line from the Tang dynasty poet Du Fu that echoes the phrase in #7.2: "Shi1 zhong1 yi4 ku3 le4."
This literally means: "In the midst of the army, suffering and joy are a whole different thing ." This seems to imply that soldiers have their own world of joy and suffering in the ranks. We civilians can't easily understand.
The king realizes he cannot understand what happens in the field, so he gives the commander broad commands and encourages him to use his judgment. The king respects the commander in 7.2. The wording used is literally: ""the king bestows a command three times."
This is different from the strict military code implied in 7.1. According to military law in ancient China, a commander would vow to accomplish a certain mission, and if he did not, he was in theory subject to capital punishment on his return. That is implied by the "code" in 7.1.
From 7.1 to 7.2, the relation between king and commander becomes more personal and respectful.
Denis M
rosada said:7.3
Perchance the army carries corpses in the wagon.
Misfortune.
"Perchance" means "maybe, possibly."rosada said:Really, really interesting line...."Perchance"..what does that word mean? It must be significant to have survived all these centuries....Are we to consider that perchance the rotting corpse is not the end but that the spirit is now risen?
I don't quite see how 命 can be translated with "award" or "decoration" actually. It means fate, destiny / life, life span / law, decree, command, order, assignment, edict / mandate, higher purpose.jte said:Jumping back to 7.2 for a bit, it's noteworthy that the award mentioned [...]
hilary said:Back to the corpses in the wagon. I know 46 is the complement of 25, but it doesn't have the negative sense of 'entanglement' - at least, not in its 10th century BC version.
rosada said:it seems he is suggesting that The Army is not about a Conflict leading to creating an Army and marching off to war,
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