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learner

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Dear friends

I have received Hex 15 recently everytime I ask about the relationship with my boyfriend. The questions were supposed to give me a kind of prediction answer.
Any ideas would be appreciated.

Mirian
 

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Mirian Lerner;

I will give an opinion but you should consider this in the light of my inexperience. I cannot be anything but amiazed at your recieving a repeated Hex 15 consistentely if the questions and the throws are read correctly.

Hex 15 is showing you Modesty as valuable!

In the judgement it is said "( I paraphrase here ) Man has the power to shape his fate, his behaviour exposes him to good and evil forces."

You have a relationship in which you are undecided about? Do you feel your partner is asking too much of you?

Perhaps you have not ask the specific question needed for a clear answer for fear of the true answer you will recieve?

Just my 2cents worth. Good Luck, good fortune.
 
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Lower the mountain and raise the valley. (earth over mountain) Equalize extremes, a partnership of equals.
 

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Hi Jerryd and Candid

Thank you for your thoughts on Hex 15. I am sorry for not having mentioned the lines that I got when I asked the Yi the questions about the relationship.

Actually the questions were very specific because that is the way that I have always posed my questions to the Yi throughout the years.

To sum up, I asked things like : `"How is the relationship going to develop from now on?" "Could the Yi draw a picture of the relationship itself at the moment?" "How strong is our love (and the relationship)?"
and -last but not least- "Does he still love me?"....

To understand the reason I have been questioning the Yi so often about the relationship you have to know that my boyfriend and I are living in different countries (quite far from each other).
I was living in the UK but had to leave because my visa expired and I had things to be sorted in my home country.

So lots of doubts creep in regularly.

Here are the moving lines that I usually get from Hex 15 - first, third, fifth and sixth.

Could you please tell me how you would interpret those lines in the context of the relationship and the questions?

Thank you so much indeed.

Mirian
 
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Hi Mirian,

In a nutshell..

It is much easier to accomplish something where there are no preset claims, rules or expectations as to what it is or what it will become. Simply work toward what you want it to be, together.

If you want to know what he thinks or feels, I suggest you ask him. 15 is also about working as a team. Just the opposite of plotting or spying on one another. It is open and honest communication.
 
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This isn't directed to you personally, Mirian. It's directed to anyone seeking to use the IC to peek inside someone else?s thoughts or feelings.

In the psychic community it is considered highly unethical to "read" someone without their knowledge and consent. Is it really any different if we use the IC toward the same ends?
 

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Hi Mirian-
This Shakespeare sonnet about honesty has always struck me as perfect for Hex 15 in relationship:

Sonnet CXXX.

MY mistress? eyes are nothing like the sun
Coral is far more red than her lips? red:
If snow be white, why then her breasts are dun;
If hairs be wires, black wires grow on her head.
I have seen roses damask?d, red and white,
But no such roses see I in her cheeks;
And in some perfumes is there more delight
Than in the breath that from my mistress reeks.
I love to hear her speak, yet well I know
That music hath a far more pleasing sound:
I grant I never saw a goddess go,?
My mistress, when she walks, treads on the ground:
And yet, by heaven, I think my love as rare
As any she belied with false compare.
 

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Hi Candid

Thanks again. I usually do not ask the "does he love me?" question. But the physical distance seems to have created some insecurity and even despair sometimes. But I did appreciate your comments.

Hi Brad

Very kind of you to remind me of the Shakespeare sonnet.

All the best,
Mirian
 

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Absolutely, if you want to know how someone feels about you, ask them. But be aware that you may or may not get the answer. The person may be unwilling or unable to articulate their feelings for you--perhaps they don't know how they feel, or they're unable to articulate it, or it feels wrong for them to say what they feel. (Right, someone's going to say, "Actually, you get on my last nerve, but I need this job." Or, "You remind me of my father, whom I hated, but some dark force draws me to creeps like you." Or, "You're clearly a nut case. I've known you for two minutes and already you want to know if I'll go to bed with you.")

There's no magic in the Yi Ching. It doesn't give you instant x-ray vision, or suddenly enable you to foresee the future if you're the sort who's lucky to be able to predict within three or four hours when the mail's going to come. Rather, it gives you imagery to focus on in dredging up answers from within yourself.

People on this board often say that you know the answer to the question you're asking the Yi. As someone who believes that the Yi guides us to answers within ourselves, I fully agree. I'd further suggest that as pack animals it's part of our survival kit to know what value others place on us. And if for some reason we're unwilling or unable to articulate the answer to the question, "What does so-and-so think of me?" the Yi is an excellent place to begin uncovering the truth.
 

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Please Help,
Hex 52 + line 5 = Hex 53

My wife has been diagnosed with a serious mental health problem that requires very long and intensive treatment. I did lots of research and reduce my therapist list to two. I ask the I Ching to comment on the choice of each therapist.
I can not understand very much the result for one of the therapist

Hex 52 with moving line 5 resulting in Hex 53.
Since this choice is very important for me, can anyone help?

Troubled Water
 

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Your reading with reference to a potential therapist (eg commenting on them) might mean.

They can still the spirit their words have order and bring and end to sorrow and that it is necessary to accept what they say with acceptance.

However I believe the words of the question to the Oracle matter less than what you held in your heart while asking.

And the words of your question might refer to either

a) Your choice

b) Their efficaciousness.

So looking at the question in reference to yourself the oracle is saying.

Keep your spirit still ? restrain your speech, the cause of sorrow disappears if you cooperate with this therapist and allow yourself to be led.

Progress will be gradual in both cases.

Hope this helps.

I wish you well in this difficult time.

--Kevin
 

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Oops - sorry folks we are on someone else?s thread...

T'waters... can I suggest you got to 'Friends Area' at the top of this page and click on it - then scroll to the bottom and click on 'create new conversation?

In peace

--Kevin
 

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