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I'm being forced to consider a major move to the East Coast from the Midwest because of downsizing in my agency that may cause me to be laid off. In terms of career growth, the greatest career potential is in DC, but I have 3 kids and no husband. So, a salary that's really pretty high but still short of six figures may be great for someone in the Midwest, or someone single, but that goes NOWHERE in DC, (or for that matter, in any major city on the East Coast). Even daycare is literally twice the cost of what it is here. Every time I travel out there I just cannot fathom how people shop and move around their kids on the Metro. How do you grocery shop without a minivan? I literally have no clue how East Coast people manage to raise kids out there- it seems to be either take a train 2-3 hours a day or live in poverty.

Ok, to the I-Ching. I've asked several related questions, and keep getting Hexagram 3 when askign about living conditions, and Hexagram 10 when asking about a specific job. When I asked, "will I get job x", I received 10 unchanging. When I asked, "will I get a job with x agency", I received 41.4.5. changing to 10.

When I asked whether I would get any job, "will I be offered a new (within my career area) job". I received 3.4 changing to 17. I asked, "will I be offered a good new job?" and received Hexagram 3 unchanging.

I asked, "will i be able to live comfortably in DC," and received 35.2 changing to 64. I said, "is that a no?" and received 3.2.4 changing to 58. I asked, "will I be able to live comfortably" a second time and received 32.3 changing to 40. (Possibly telling me to shut up and stop worrying about it?) I'm not sure.
 
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Hi Kindi

Just in case the comment could be useful

I suggest you another aproach, centered in you and what you can do.

First, figure out what is the center of the "move to East" question for you: is about professional development? is about money? is about personal satisfaction? is about rising your family? is about "vocation"? is about your "spiritual" development?

Because one concrete job could be fine for one of those issues, but wrong for another. One need to clarify one's priorities to make a wiser choose on fundamental changes.

Then, this could be useful (in this order: from general to concrete):
1.- Goblal diagnosis of my Life
2.- General diagnosis of my Emotional Time
3.- General diagnosis of my Labor Time
4.- Diagnosis of my concrete situation on moving East
5.- What is the best decision to make relate on moving east

I hope this aproach helps you to make YOU your choises.

Best wishes
 

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Those are excellent ideas. However, do you think there is any useful information being conveyed to me by the questions I've already asked and answers I've already drawn?
 
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Kindi,
I think 3 is signifying the difficulties of a new venture, much uncertain now, and perhaps you need to get help....professionals in the field of real estate e.g to help you.
the more specific you can get with the i ching the better your chances are for getting some real concrete advice on step by step progress. I dont know how close you are to actually making the move?
10 is a lot to do with making step by step progress, carefully, but it is a general type of advice I see here.
Maybe job first.....you find a job..and then investigate the real estate aspect. Most people who raise families probably live in the suburbs.

3.4 to 17 seems to say that you may experience the initial difficulties associated with this kind of venture, but to keep moving forward and follow what you want.

I don't think it helps too much to ask the Yi how it will all work out in the BIG sense, because so much of how it all works out eventually will depend on your careful step by step progress, but you will get there. That's what I see in lots of 3's and 10's.
best of everything.
 

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I tried the diagnosis questions.. the general diagnosis was 44.1.4 changing to 9. That struck me as a message that I am being 'held back', and even used. Diagnosis on move, 29.3 to 57. That seems to be positive (?) as I interpret 57 as things working out better than I fear.

62.2.5 to 28 was what I got when I asked, what is the best decision to make. Maybe a message to seize my personal power? (I feel pretty clear on the answers to the second and third diagnosis questions..)

You know what really strikes me as I ask all these questions? So many references to finding helpers. 62 line 5 says, "But these helpers must be modestly sought out in the retirement to which they have withdrawn." There could almost be a literal interpretation here, because there are many people retiring in the government, especially now as we reduce staff.

I wondered if maybe I was asking the wrong question, and if a move would even be necessary, because it isn't certain I will be laid off (if enough people retire), and received 52.3 changing to 23. The changing line is about force, and 23 is splitting apart, so it seems to say, yes, I will be laid off.

I am still not clear on what is being communicated to me here, but it does seem to be telling me, no, you're right, you will need help to pull this off, and yet I have no idea who the "helpers" are.

Hopefully things will become more clear to me.

Thank you so much to anyone and everyone who offers their help.
 
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Hi Kindi

Seems to me that is not a good idea moving right now.

I'll explain it in extensive way soon (no later than tomorrow).

I notice that you didn't ask the general diagnosis of the Labor Time. It would be useful to confirm or disconfirm the interpretation

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I asked for a general diagosis of my labor time and received 38.2.6. changing to 51. I asked also for a diagnosis of intervening factors from my emotional life that may come into play here. I received 62.1. changing to 55. Because it seems so illogical to not try to move, I asked, if I shouldn't move, then what? I received 35.5 changing to 12, which doesn't give me any encouragement, either. I hate to ask so many questions, but since I don't have any sense of clarity, and instead feel much more fearful, I asked, what should I focus on right now, and received 15 unchanging. I just don't understand how that makes sense for me when I'm trying to take care of my girls. I can't just wait around feeling powerless. Finally, I asked, is there anything good coming to me, and received 63.4 changing to 49. So, I feel much more afraid and less in control then I did before I believed I could manage things.

Thank you so much for your help interpreting, it really means a lot to me. :)
 
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Hi Kindi

I forgot the notes that i wrote about your dialogue; but there was 5 coherent themes appearing constantly:

a) An external and objetive situation that came to you, and is influencing you. This situation is "coming" to you without you searching for it (hex 44), and is risky (44, 29); so you need to act with caution (44, 29, 62)

b) This external situation had active inner contraditions in you. The most you leave your inner center because of that contradictions (line 1 of 44) and act with precipitation, the most you could fall into the hole (line 3 and 6 of 29)

c) A particular issue: this inner lack of calm had lead you to isolation (line 4 of 44; line 3 of 29; line 5 of 62). Is not time for retreatment now, but for re-joining to others, to your own similars (searching for helpers)

d) The best thing to do is "Don't move" but stay calm (29.3; 52.3), discern your real priorities, rescue your center, remain calm and with serenity. 52.3 (about the question what to do) shows an uncalm heart: if you try to achieve success by force, repressing you own heart, you could harm yourself. Stop; calm down; do meditation to serenate your inner inestability.

e) In the end, the point is: if you surrender to external facts, as something "forcing" your way; danger is in front. Is not the external facts, but your inner priorities what should lead your actions and decisions. Otherwise, you could surrender to fatalism and pesimism.

Now, your new questions point to the same: 38.2-5 (your are isolated,but need to search a reunion with the others). If not moving what to do? progress on the basis of mutual cooperation (35.5). To achieve that, you could concentrate yourself now in modesty (this one points to similar than 62: don't expect to much now, don't try to fly high, but secuere)

Best wishes
 

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Wow, you're awesome. You should charge for your interpretations. Thank you so, so, much. I've learned so much about I-Ching just from reading this post.

When I found out my job was in jeopardy, I said, perfect, here's my chance to leave this area and remove my daughter's father from our lives completely. I have limited his ability to be involved.

At the deepest level, if I am honest, I wish we were together, but I don't want to deal with those feelings because I don't believe that is anything but an unrealistic dream. What I am concerned about and focused on is me- how do I make more money- how do I do everything alone and by myself so I don't have to be dependent on someone who will end up failing and hurting me.

So, usually I am only aware of anger and disgust and the desire to distance myself permanently from him. I wanted to just make the decision to pick up and move and go on to a new life. I wanted the perfect excuse to leave him behind.

I keep asking about my job, but maybe I-Ching is asking me to deal with these other issues that were there before. Maybe even telling me that my daughter's father is dangerous to me and will try to upset my life.. I don't know.

Thank you, Jesed.
 
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Hi Kindi

Well, if you find it of any help, you could try another line of searching. Not anymore about labor and job, but about your emotional time.

Maybe, even if the jeopardy of the job is important (and of course is important; your life and your family depends on mone, as anyone); the most important thing to solve in your life isn't job now. or maybe, this "job situation" is a heaven intervention to make you see another aspects of your life that are needed to be solve.


You could ask, in this order:
a) General Diagnosis of my Emotional Time
b) What is my position within my family
c) What should be my position related to X (the father of your doughters)
d) How this labor situation is linked as an oportunity for my emotional life
e) What to do for improve my emotional life

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For question A, I received 11 unchanging. Odd- unless it is only reflecting this very moment in time, as I feel peaceful right now.

For question B, I received 6.1.2.4. changing to 42.

For question C, I received 58.3.5 changing to 34.

For question D, I received 27.1 changing to 23.

For question E, I received 50.4 changing to 18.

Much of that doesn't make sense to me, but maybe I really am not looking at these hexagrams correctly, and need to spend more time learning. I would think, for example, looking at 58 (Joyousness) in the first hexagram, and the very negative changing lines, speaking of an unstable nature, and an person who is dangerous, changing to 34, Power of the Great, that my joy has been spoiled, and sincerity are wasted on a "disintegrating", "dangerous", personality, and I need to be forceful, powerful, and totally separate myself from him. Or in other words- I have been right all along, and need to move. But that is only if it interpreted in a linear way, I guess.

Because some of this doesn't even make sense if it's interpreted in a cause and effet way. For D, am I being told my emotional opportunity is to split from others? But isn't that what I wished to do in a move? And certainly the changing line, which seems to be self-imposed sabotage of one's good position in life, is not advice about what I should do to take an opportunity?
 
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Oh dear Kindi.

Emotional issue is a HUGE issue in your life, isn't?

What happened in your emotional life between June 16 and July 31, 2005? Whatever it was, is stocking you in the past; specially around february to march 16, 2006

You had received deep answers, hard answers.

A huge inner transformation is needed (50) to repair what had been spoiled in your emotional life (18)

I don't mean to be rude; and I don't dare to elaborate more in public forum (unless you ask for it, or if you wish, i could do it in private message).

Best wishes, may the Sages bless you
 

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You are welcome to send a private message.. thank you.
 

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