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hello everyone!
I'm new to iching and have some problems interpreting the hexagrams so I turn to you for words of advice. I asked what will be my future(common) with my exgirl?
I got 54.3>34. So I'm quite confused with 34? Should I wait until things turn good?
 

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hello everyone!
I'm new to iching and have some problems interpreting the hexagrams so I turn to you for words of advice. I asked what will be my future(common) with my exgirl?
I got 54.3>34. So I'm quite confused with 34? Should I wait until things turn good?

Hi Ivvan! Are you two getting back together or is that something you wish would happen? Based on this, I would say it's not a very good idea for you to pursue at all, it's not going to be fulfilling enough for you. There is always a reason for why people break up... more often than not, time will heal the wounds but it won't make the person more suitable.
 

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hi and thanks for help.

I want to get back with her, I know there were plenty of reason why i didn't workout but nevertheless. Could you please elaborate more on those hex combination? I'm kinda boggled by iching interpretations and maybe I will learn something.
 
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I think its all in perspective. What you want, what you are willing to accept, what your beliefs are. I would've personally asked a different question. Asking about future... things change moment to moment. Day to day. Without having any real idea of your situation, this is what I get from the answer...
54 is marrying maiden, so the idea is not necessarily that you would have a bad relationship, but you or her would come second. The example used is the concubine. That could mean second to another job, second to children, second to self, school, family, or even another romantic relationship. Its kind of a metaphor.
However line 3: "the marrying maiden returns and marries as secondary wife. All things come to those who can wait. Who stays in his own dignity will get the one with dignity. I don't see this as a negative hexagram or line. Sounds like she will return or you will return to her and be together. It only has warnings or advice in it. When it changes to 34: great vigour, strength, energy, strong association with uprightness, steadiness, and loyalty are all qualities that you have and will need into order to succeed. I like to read online claritys interpretation as well as yjing (don't have the exact link right now) and oracle of love. So its all in how it fits for you. That's my perspective anyway. I've had this line. For me it said "its all in how much you're willing to put into this relationship"
 
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Thank You Blue Angel!

That is what boggles me in hexagram 54.3. It says that "she returns". I know iching is metaphor but could it represt a male also? Other than that, she was kinda immature so again, accuray is amazing. Also I have problems interpreting second hex, is it what is going to happen next or is it like clarificator of previous hexagram? If that is the case, what could it mean in the context of 54.3?
 

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hi and thanks for help.

I want to get back with her, I know there were plenty of reason why i didn't workout but nevertheless. Could you please elaborate more on those hex combination? I'm kinda boggled by iching interpretations and maybe I will learn something.

Hi ivvan,

just out of curiosity, which interpretation text (s) do you use? Interpretations can vary quite a bit, and from my perspective I would not recommend to use too many different ones. I find "The Complete I Ching" by Master Alfred Huang to be quite usable. I also like an online version I found under
http://www.akirarabelais.com/i/i.html#index
But all in all the best way to understand a reading is to stick with one interpretation source and just continue to analyse it, until something makes sense :)

As for your Hex 54.3 --> 34 here is what I think about it:
54 to me is not a good omen for a relationship - it describes a person being caught in a situation where they are forced to take an inferior role and feel uncomfortable. The Hex clearly states that any action on your part right now would meet with misfortune. Since you are currently out of the relationship, I'd say it means any steps you take now to change that would be unsuccessful ("Undertakings bring misfortune. Nothing that would further.")

Line 3 IMO warns you against compromising your values and personality, just for the sake of a relationship with that girl ("This pictures the situation of a person who longs too much for joys that cannot be obtained in the usual way. He enters upon a situation not altogether compatible with self-esteem.")

Since 34 denotes "The Power of the Great" I would take that to mean that although you are warned not to proceed with your original plan of getting back with your girlfriend, there is still nothing to worry about, because you are really strong at heart. If you are not headstrong and keep to the way of what is right ("Thus the superior man does not tread upon pathsThat do not accord with established order".- just the opposite of 54.3) then things will be allright.

As a disclaimer, let me add that this is purely the interpretation of the reading - I do not know either you, your ex-girlfriend, nor the situation. You yourself are the best person to interpret the reading and to uncover its hidden layers of meaning.

best wishes

maui
 

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Hi ivvan,

just out of curiosity, which interpretation text (s) do you use? Interpretations can vary quite a bit, and from my perspective I would not recommend to use too many different ones. I find "The Complete I Ching" by Master Alfred Huang to be quite usable. I also like an online version I found under
http://www.akirarabelais.com/i/i.html#index
But all in all the best way to understand a reading is to stick with one interpretation source and just continue to analyse it, until something makes sense :)

As for your Hex 54.3 --> 34 here is what I think about it:
54 to me is not a good omen for a relationship - it describes a person being caught in a situation where they are forced to take an inferior role and feel uncomfortable. The Hex clearly states that any action on your part right now would meet with misfortune. Since you are currently out of the relationship, I'd say it means any steps you take now to change that would be unsuccessful ("Undertakings bring misfortune. Nothing that would further.")

Line 3 IMO warns you against compromising your values and personality, just for the sake of a relationship with that girl ("This pictures the situation of a person who longs too much for joys that cannot be obtained in the usual way. He enters upon a situation not altogether compatible with self-esteem.")

Since 34 denotes "The Power of the Great" I would take that to mean that although you are warned not to proceed with your original plan of getting back with your girlfriend, there is still nothing to worry about, because you are really strong at heart. If you are not headstrong and keep to the way of what is right ("Thus the superior man does not tread upon pathsThat do not accord with established order".- just the opposite of 54.3) then things will be allright.

As a disclaimer, let me add that this is purely the interpretation of the reading - I do not know either you, your ex-girlfriend, nor the situation. You yourself are the best person to interpret the reading and to uncover its hidden layers of meaning.

best wishes

maui

I'm amazed at how positively 34 has been interpreted by you all. My personal experience (and that is not to say that it overwrites anyone else's - Yi means different things to different people all the time) has been that there is too much of trying to force things - may it be in your thoughts, in your heart, or physically actually doing something to make something you desperately want to happen. But that the reality is that you really should back off...
 

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I'm amazed at how positively 34 has been interpreted by you all. My personal experience (and that is not to say that it overwrites anyone else's - Yi means different things to different people all the time) has been that there is too much of trying to force things - may it be in your thoughts, in your heart, or physically actually doing something to make something you desperately want to happen. But that the reality is that you really should back off...

Hi K,

interesting!
With me, I think its partly a personal preference - I tend to like the "strong" and "dynamic" Hexes like 34, 26, 49, 50, 51 because that is where I feel to most lacking myself... I do not much like it when I get "passive" 2 or 52 for example. Hex 34 to me always seems like an encouragement, saying "you are not as powerless as you feel"
But of course you are right, that 34 contains a warning against using power inappropriately and that great power can have grave consequences...I guess a lot depends on the question and the querent...
thanks for sharing

maui
 

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Hi K,

interesting!
With me, I think its partly a personal preference - I tend to like the "strong" and "dynamic" Hexes like 34, 26, 49, 50, 51 because that is where I feel to most lacking myself... I do not much like it when I get "passive" 2 or 52 for example. Hex 34 to me always seems like an encouragement, saying "you are not as powerless as you feel"
But of course you are right, that 34 contains a warning against using power inappropriately and that great power can have grave consequences...I guess a lot depends on the question and the querent...
thanks for sharing

maui

Likewise maui, very interesting. Well, just in another thread I started yesterday I complained of my 44 curse, so I suppose you are right in saying that this is personal. I always have too much strength and power, so 34 for me is a bad sign :)
 

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