My office is moving. 46-8

[Grandma]

I wanted to post this and ask for advice because even though it seemed to me that the answer is yes, it's so incongrous to my life that I think I must be wrong.
I work as a temp for someone for over a year now. He is moving his office to Manhattan, from the suburbs soon. I asked if I would be working for him or an entity of his in NYC. I got 46.2.3.5-8. It seemed very positive,especially line 5 which alomost always comes to pass when I recieve that line. Line 3 mentions in blofield
"moving to a larger city, the way is not yet clear". It's wierd to me because I live in the suburbs, although I do have to move soon, and it's expensive to commute to Manhattan, and it wouldn't be realistic on my salary. 8 says to throw again if you think you can serve as the center of the group, which I don't think I would be, but I threw anyway and just didn't have a clear question and got 33. Does that negate the other response? Are you supposed to throw again for 8 and ask a question or just throw?
Anyway, I was wondering if someone had any insight about this. I will probably know soon because he is supposed to vacate his office by the end of this month (although this date could change). But usually line 5 things happen relatively soon after the throw, for me anyway.
Thanks,
Susan

 

[jesed]

Hi Susan

I would suggest you the following question:

Would it be OK for me to move to NYC?

Best wishes

 

[willowfox]

"I asked if I would be working for him or an entity of his in NYC. I got 46.2.3.5-8."

Hex 46.2 at the beginning you do not fit into the new surroundings, Manhatten, but overtime everything will be okay and you will accept your new position.

Hex 46.3 you gain a foothold in an empty city, Manhatten, and any obstructions fall away and so things go easy. Make the best of you new situation, and cast your doubts aside.

Hex 46.5 remain down to earth in your new position, and only try to advance step by step.

Hex 8 staying together with your boss will be good for you and bring you success.

 

[willowfox]

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Hi Susan

I would suggest you the following question:

Would it be OK for me to move to NYC?


Another fine example of jesed NOT understanding the question or answer yet again, so what does he do, ASK ANOTHER QUESTION of course! Fortunately he is not asking some nonsense about global questions this time or is that global position, who knows what he means when he gets going.

 

[Grandma]

Thank you both for your help.
Willowfox, one of the things that makes this so wierd is he hasn't offered me a job there. When he first nentioned it last year he was like I'll have to take youwith me and I was like oh sure. I told my daughter about it and I said he didn't mean it and I didn't mean it , it was just a matter of form. So, really that's my logical belief, but I know that logic isn't the be all and end all in life. but this is really wierd. Well I'll soon find out.
Jesed, I asked 'is it ok for me to move to NYC? 33.1-13. The new office's address has 3 three's in it also, which is funny. But when I asked I thought of my moving house there.
Not sure what that means. Except, Ihave almost never in my entire life contemplated moving to NYC, and I have lived within 30 miles of it, almost my whole life. The answer seems kind of negative on the face of it, on the other hand when I'v easked the ic where I should move it has said the south and the west.
Willowfox and Jesed, I for one value both of your opinions.
I am an adult and it is my decision to accept anothers readings or not. I don't beleive there is any coercion involved in asking for help interpreting here and I believe those who do respond have the best intentions.
Last night I asked if anyone would respond to my question and I got 5.6-9 , so maybe there is some meaning there about what is going on with the two of you.
Thanks again.

 

[willowfox]

"I asked 'is it ok for me to move to NYC? 33.1-13."

Hex 33.1 you are having doubts now as to the best option, you are literally retreating into yourself, better stop worrying about it and keep still, as you are in direct contact with your fears, Be patient and wait.

Hex 13 joining with others in a community atmosphere. Looks good to me.


"Last night I asked if anyone would respond to my question and I got 5.6-9 "

Hex 5.6 you have a problem, some uninvited guest will come and help you. Treat the advice given with respect and good fortune will follow.

Hex 9 Advice coming soon, now come at last. Good fortune.

 

[willowfox]

I think that the IC has given you the best possible solution to your questions. First your boss does want you there in Manhatten, you may have to prompt him though, don't forget he is a very busy person with a million things on his plate, Second, moving into NYC seems to be the right thing to do, it is only your fears and doubts that are clouding the issue. We all have fears and doubts but don't let them rule your life. Thirdly, you say you did another reading which gave you a south west direction (from your front door I hope) and is that the direction you will move to if you move? Fourthly, the IC has given you good advice but it is entirely up to you whether you accept that advice of what your future could be like or you just stay where you know exactly what your future will be like for the next X number of years. The choice is yours. An uninvited guest has come with wise advice, perhaps others will also help but I doubt it.

 

[jesed]

Hi susan

Just in case the comment could be useful

a) Mathematical method
I don't know if you did the cast on January 5 or 6; so, I did the calculations for both options; another issue that I don't know is what is your mayor concern about moving? is it economic (that would make aspect Wife the key element)? or is it professional (that would make aspect Husband the key element)?

DAY Pig (if January 5) or Rat (if January 6). Both Water element
MONTH Rat Water element
VOID ELEMENT Dragon (earth) and Snake (fire)
SUBJECT LINE: Susan
KEY ELEMENT Wife (if economical concern) or Husband (if professional concern)
ANSWER 33>13

line 6 Dog (earth), aspect Parents
line 5 Monkey -not me, another one - (metal), aspect Brother/Competitors
line 4 Horse (fire), aspect Husband
line 3 Monkey (metal), aspect Brother/Competitors
line 2 Horse (fire), aspect Husband
lines 1 Dragon (earth), aspect Parents becoming Rabbit (wood), aspect Wife

SUBJECT LINE in line 2; Horse (fire), Husband. Destroyed by Month and Day (no matter if January 5 or 6). Clashes against Rat.. meaning clashes against the month, and against the day if January 6. That means pretty bad answer.
KEY ELEMENT
a) If economical concern, is Wife aspect. It is Tiger (wood) and it is hidden element; but produced by Month and Day. That implies money seems to be hide, but would be come out of hide if you move.
b) If professional concern, is Husband aspect. It is Horse, the same than te subject. That means very negative answer for you professionally.
INFLUENCE OF THE MONTH Destroys fire (Subject and Husband aspect), produces wood (Wife aspect, meaning money). Meaning: moving would be good for money, but bad for you personally and professionlly
INFLUENCE OF THE DAY
a) If Pig- Destoys fire (Subject/Husband aspect); produces wood (Wife aspect); combines with Tiger (Key element if economical concern)
b) If Rat, same than the Month
Meaning: same than the Month's influence, but mayor economical benefits if January 5
MOVING LINES
There is only one moving line, and it is line 1. It is Dragon (earth), under aspect Parents. It moves in favor of metal (brother aspect, meaning partners or competitors), and against water (aspect children, meaning inteligence or good luck). The resultant element is Rabbit (wood), aspect Money wich destroys the original dragon (wood destroys earth). Meaning: the movement would benefit others in you job, and result on economical benefit for you, but that would affect your good luck
VOID ELEMENT: Dragon, the moving line, is void element. Meaning: obstacles to move in short term. Since is moving line and not destroyed by month, could be move after all-
TRI-COMBINATION: Rat+Monkey+Dragon=Water. Water element is specially strong. Water produces wood (Wife aspect=money) and destroys fire (Husband=profession and Subject line=susan)

b) Textual method
Sign 33 is someone taking distance, retiring himself to avoid danger. That is the general situation; within that situation, line 1 is someone that is being left behind when others withdrawn. Attempt to move is harmfull; not move avoid dangers.
The image I got is: the company is withdrawing from your place to NY, and you are not in the vanguard of the movement, but being left behind. Not move, not attempt to reach the rest of the army; better to find "fellowship with others in the frontier"

Now, usually I don't like to take the text literally... but, are you close to any frontier? a big river to cross nearby?


From here, seems like:
a) It is not sure that you would be request to move to NY
b) But if you do, there would be obstacles to move; the consecuences would be good economically, but bad personally and even professionally.

Best wishes

 

[Grandma]

Wow, thanks for the replies,my boss is really busy, like you said Wf, or he acts like he is, not sure how you knew that, I'll ask him if this is our last month in this office, any other question would be presumptuous.
Oh, I asked the question moving to NYC on the 6th, but either way by your calculations Jesed, which I respect, but don't fathom, either is negative, But I did ask if I was moving personally, not professionally, or that is the question I had in mind when I asked. Does that matter? my guess is it doesn't.
Sw , I guess it's from my front door, though my front door faces north, my side door which I use alot faces north eastish. But Manhattan is south of me, I think a little to the west. The bridge to the next county is SW, for sure, but that county can go NOrth of me also.
I live near the Hudson River-to get to Manhattan, which is an island anyone has to cross a body of water to get to it. I would have to cross the Hudson to get there, also when I drive there I take the Henry Hudson Parkway which runs parallel to the Hudson river. The other place I was thinking of moving was to the next county, also across the Hudson river, Rockland County. If you take the Hudson as a dividing force for the NorthEast United States then crossing it into Rockland Cty or New Jersey would connect you to the rest of the country, the frontier, I guess. Or is Manhattan a frontier?
My gut feeling is he is not going to ask me to move to NY, it just doesn't make sense, but it's a good job and he doesn't ask me to do hardly anything for him, so I like working for him. Plus being a temp is kind of a drag, I don't want to start something new again.
Anyway, Iasked today would it be ok for me to work in NYC for (my boss) 48.1.3.6-61. That seems like a no. (I just saw I also asked this yesterday and got 12.3.5-18, forgot I asked it already.)
Is my relationship w/ my boss. coming to an end? 20.1.2-61. that seems like yes it's over.
Will my relationship with Mr. D. continue after he moves his office from (here) 53.1.3-42.
Those all seem like it's over, on the strength of the moving lines.
Univited guests appear to help-neither of you are univited guests, no one on the board could be univited it seems to me.
Well, thanks again WF and Jesed.

 

[Grandma]

Jesed, major concern with moving to NY is economical, either professionally or personally.

 

[Grandma]

Manhattan is to the south west of me, wasn't really sure before!

 

[willowfox]

"Anyway, Iasked today would it be ok for me to work in NYC for (my boss) 48.1.3.6-61."

Hex 48.1 don't get bogged down in useless doubts, be much more positive.

Hex 48.3 you will not be used in the short term but when the boss finds out he will rectify the situation.

Hex 48.6 working for you boss in NYC will be very good, it will be rewarding.

Hex 61 difficult to influence your boss but you can do it, success; also success to cross the river. Even in the most difficult situation , you will be able too handle people and they will listen, so be sincere.


What I really meant was when you leave your house, is Manhatten to the south west when you travel towards it, then that would be lucky and everyhing in that direction.


"Is my relationship w/ my boss. coming to an end? 20.1.2-61."

hex 20.1 don't keep seeing things from your point of view which is limited.

hex 20.2 again your outlook is limited, look at things from your boss's angle

Hex 61 you can influence him to give you a job, keep your job, success.


"Will my relationship with Mr. D. continue after he moves his office from (here) 53.1.3-42."

Hex 53.1,3 Excercise caution until you know the game plan. Be patient and don't jump here, allow everything to develop natuarally.

Hex 42 increase, new possibilities, I think your relationship with your boss will certainly continue and grow stronger.

 

[willowfox]

"(I just saw I also asked this yesterday and got 12.3.5-18"

Hex 12.3 you don't feel that you are entitled to the new job but things will turn out okay.

Hex 12.5 success is assured through great caution, in times of change cast aside your fears and doubts, don't think about failure.

Hex 18 is about righting things, your job situation that has now fallen into decay or is decaying and needs to be sorted out, you must work on it to put yourself back in the running for Manhatten, again crossing the river is good, improvement is necesssary and the job will eventually be yours.

Combine all the readings that I have given you and they will give you a ground plan to follow, then success is assured? I don't know why you worry so much about something that looks so good.

 

[Grandma]

Wf, I guess I am just worried because I don't know how this is going to work. I did think the 46-8 reading sounded good, but I thought the others were negative. I don't know. We'll see, I have to ask my boss if we are moving this month or not. Thanks for your hep.

 

[Grandma]

Finally, an update on this situation.
My boss is moving the office this week so this is my last week. He did in a way ask me if I wanted to come work for him in NYC. He said, you don't want to commute to the city do you? I said I can't afford to on what I make. He said I didn't think so. So, in a way it was an offer. He asked for my phone number so he could keep in touch. (maybe he will have some paper work I can do at home for him?) He told me to come visit him and his gf in their new building. (He bought a whole building)