Need food, how can i get food / money.

[Dcb1963]

All ready down to bread, rice and little meat.
Nothing in sight for tomorrow.
Maybe the I Ching could give me information on how to get something ?

 

[Dcb1963]

All ready down to bread, rice and little meat.
Nothing in sight for tomorrow.
Maybe the I Ching could give me information on how to get something ?

Hexagram 29.1.5.6 to 41

 

[rosada]

41. Decrease is about sharing. Is there some one you could share some of what you have with? If not food then something else?

 

[breakmov]

I'm sorry about your situation. 29.1.5.6>41 shows well the affliction you are in.
one option :
Have you considered looking at your situation coldly and asking for help from an institution dedicated to providing temporary help, for example with food, even if you have to "swallow some pride on your part"?

line 1:
you need to be aware that you are in a worrying situation, this would be a first step but it would help a lot.

line 5:
if you can contact an institution that helps you, even partially or temporarily, it would be the most sensible path to take now.

line6:
don't let yourself get stuck in this situation, out of pride, or stubbornness, false hope, or inactivity. It doesn't help to think that eventually you can overcome this situation without any
kind of rules or help. You already know it won't get you any relief.

Ps. As rosada suggested, if you could get a job, it would also help a lot to stabilize your situation.

Ps2-By reading Rosada's phrase "41. Decrease is about sharing. Is there some one you could share some of what you have with? If not food then something else?"
it (Rosada's phrase)gave me an insite where I believe that a job for Dcb1963, if possible, would be a very good thing.

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[Trojina]

I don't see anywhere that Rosada said to get a job ?

There's food banks here, stores of donated food stuff for those in need and even employed people use them since cost of living went up.

 

[Liselle]

This is hard to talk about, since it's a pretty extreme situation that many of us haven't experienced. So attempts to suggest solutions even from the reading could come across as facile and unempathetic.

That said, I think people's suggestions have been good. Is there anyone at all who might help you out temporarily in an emergency as Rosada said? Or what Trojina said about food banks - that's what they're for, after all. More impersonal, which might be better.

29 -
'Repeating chasm.
There is truth and confidence.
Holding fast the heart creates success.
Movement brings honour.'

Several parts to that:

1. "Repeating chasms" - if you understandably wonder why these things keep happening (if they do), it might be because you get better at it and it gets easier the more often you do it. (This is the kind of thing I meant by facile and unempathetic - easy for me to say.) Naturally we want bad things to happen to us never, or only once if we really must. But maybe 29 says differently. Maybe you're learning some important skill from this darkness, in the eyes of the universe or whatever.
   
   
2. "Truth and confidence" - Yi says it's available to you, even down here in the pit, even if you don't believe that. Try to internalize it. Try to summon even a particle, even if it feels fake.
   
   
3. "Holding fast the heart" - courage and faith and your inner being.
   
   
4. "Movement brings honor" - you'll have to try something, anything, even if it doesn't work right away. It's hardest to take the first step, but maybe the second will be easier. Maybe make the first step as tiny as possible, for instance looking up the food bank's address. Just that.

41 - it's easy to see that as your empty cupboards, isn't it?

Lines
29.1 - you're in a pit, don't go further in.

29.5 - this with line 6 is at some distance from line 1, which is often meaningful in readings. I don't know exactly what it means for you, but it's relatively good news I think. Maybe things don't have to get any worse. Maybe you'll end up with just barely enough, which is good in comparison to the alternative.

29.6 does worry me a little. It could mean you're stuck here for a while and there's not much you can do. But what does "here" mean? Literally starving? Being chronically short of food but always managing to get something? The latter is a lot better than the former.

Or - 6th lines are often overviews that aren't absolutely directly answering the question - so it might mean how you're seeing this and feeling about it, not literally how it is. With line 5 there I'm tempted to see it more as a mindset than a prediction, but of course I don't know.

 

[Trojina]

If you need food and haven't got any other people are your resource.

Though you posted this and then today posted a thread saying you needed one and a half million dollars.

 

[Dcb1963]

I'm sorry about your situation. 29.1.5.6>41 shows well the affliction you are in.
one option :
Have you considered looking at your situation coldly and asking for help from an institution dedicated to providing temporary help, for example with food, even if you have to "swallow some pride on your part"?

line 1:
you need to be aware that you are in a worrying situation, this would be a first step but it would help a lot.

line 5:
if you can contact an institution that helps you, even partially or temporarily, it would be the most sensible path to take now.

line6:
don't let yourself get stuck in this situation, out of pride, or stubbornness, false hope, or inactivity. It doesn't help to think that eventually you can overcome this situation without any
kind of rules or help. You already know it won't get you any relief.

Ps. As rosada suggested, if you could get a job, it would also help a lot to stabilize your situation.

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Thank you.
I'm on SSI .would ha e to be off the tax records.
My wife works. And got a raise of 2 dollars hr.
Wich was good till they gave raise to every thing we buy, by 3.5 dollars.
But, on a good note, we had $10. For gas in the car.
I gave thought to a interesting feeling and put $5. In gas and pict out a lottery scratch off , the number 15 ticket.
Won $50.
So , got more gas , food , .
I get foodstamps. But that goes fast.
It's changed for the week.

Thank you.
Good life too you.

 

[breakmov]

what I wrote is already late, now that Dcb1963 has intervened

... however, I leave it for "consideration":

I don't understand the twist in relation to the "job" in the topic... I don't know why but, right from the beginning, I hesitated to write that Ps at #4.

it's funny how the "first impressions of anything" happen... "the job" was the first idea that came to me when reading intervention #3, it would not only stabilize his situation but also allow Dcb1963 to do something in common with others in a way to put their ideals to use.
Why not imagine a job in one of those help centers where it would give him space to structure his situation, not only from a personal point of view but also in the sense of belonging to a community where altruism is at the center of his action- I think it would be a precious help.

But I don't want it to seem like I'm assigning meanings that rosada didn't want to convey.- for me, instinctively, it was the "job scenario" that appeared, but I agree that only she can know the real meaning of her sentence.

As you may have noticed, communicating in English is not something natural for me, but there is something I understand regardless of the language- The freedom to communicate my message in a polite but direct way, and that's what I did!

I don't see the reason for giving "this importance", in the way it is being given, to a detail of "what I thought rosada was conveying".

But for me it's as simple as this:

re-edit the Ps in #4.


Ps2-By reading Rosada's phrase "41. Decrease is about sharing. Is there some one you could share some of what you have with? If not food then something else?"
it (Rosada's phrase)gave me an insite where I believe that a job for Dcb1963, if possible, would be a very good thing.

breakmov

 

[Trojina]

It's okay I was puzzled as to where you saw her say he should get a job as this was her post

41. Decrease is about sharing. Is there some one you could share some of what you have with? If not food then something else?

...I can't see anything to do with a job there I took it she is just talking about sharing. However if it makes you think of a job then fair enough

 

[Dcb1963]

This is hard to talk about, since it's a pretty extreme situation that many of us haven't experienced. So attempts to suggest solutions even from the reading could come across as facile and unempathetic.

That said, I think people's suggestions have been good. Is there anyone at all who might help you out temporarily in an emergency as Rosada said? Or what Trojina said about food banks - that's what they're for, after all. More impersonal, which might be better.

29 -
'Repeating chasm.
There is truth and confidence.
Holding fast the heart creates success.
Movement brings honour.'

Several parts to that:

1. "Repeating chasms" - if you understandably wonder why these things keep happening (if they do), it might be because you get better at it and it gets easier the more often you do it. (This is the kind of thing I meant by facile and unempathetic - easy for me to say.) Naturally we want bad things to happen to us never, or only once if we really must. But maybe 29 says differently. Maybe you're learning some important skill from this darkness, in the eyes of the universe or whatever.
   
   
2. "Truth and confidence" - Yi says it's available to you, even down here in the pit, even if you don't believe that. Try to internalize it. Try to summon even a particle, even if it feels fake.
   
   
3. "Holding fast the heart" - courage and faith and your inner being.
   
   
4. "Movement brings honor" - you'll have to try something, anything, even if it doesn't work right away. It's hardest to take the first step, but maybe the second will be easier. Maybe make the first step as tiny as possible, for instance looking up the food bank's address. Just that.

41 - it's easy to see that as your empty cupboards, isn't it?

Lines
29.1 - you're in a pit, don't go further in.

29.5 - this with line 6 is at some distance from line 1, which is often meaningful in readings. I don't know exactly what it means for you, but it's relatively good news I think. Maybe things don't have to get any worse. Maybe you'll end up with just barely enough, which is good in comparison to the alternative.

29.6 does worry me a little. It could mean you're stuck here for a while and there's not much you can do. But what does "here" mean? Literally starving? Being chronically short of food but always managing to get something? The latter is a lot better than the former.

Or - 6th lines are often overviews that aren't absolutely directly answering the question - so it might mean how you're seeing this and feeling about it, not literally how it is. With line 5 there I'm tempted to see it more as a mindset than a prediction, but of course I don't know.

Thank you.
It's is a learning process, now I realize.
That I'm in the game, but "riding the pine."
As a old baseball saying.
It's hard to have so much options, but no way to put them in motion, yet.
I feel my time is coming,
And I need great taming.
Iv got that more in the last month,
Than ever since I have been in ching with the oracle for almost a year.
And with my case/ lawsuit..
Being almost settled.
I have to be ready for the big changes, invest in home, grand ideas of products that help me and all others.
I am 60 years old, and real like to help humans get their life's problems covered so when people forget their child or pet in a car on a hot day.
They survive , I know it's not happening a lot, but when it does, my device will save them.
And it will be put standard on all cars and child safety seats.
That's just one idea I have to do.
This is how I feel and it's been getting stronger every day.
And time seems to be shorter and faster.

But, time is not stopping me from becoming who I am.

Thank you for your time and energy enlightenment.
D.C. BOYLAN

 

[Liselle]

"Repeating chasms" - if you understandably wonder why these things keep happening (if they do), it might be because you get better at it and it gets easier the more often you do it.

I don't like this that I posted. Sorry about that.

I certainly didn't mean you'd get better at being without food, that's ridiculous. Although that's what it sounds like.

I meant you might get better at things like finding sources of help, knowing what's available, things like that. Although I don't even like saying that, in hindsight. 29 can mean things like learning skills, but there are lots of specific things a hexagram can mean. I should know better than to pick one out and say that's what's important. Again, sorry.

I'm happy you won the $50!

 

[Dcb1963]

I don't see anywhere that Rosada said to get a job ?

There's food banks here, stores of donated food stuff for those in need and even employed people use them since cost of living went up.

It's all good now.
And I hope did say anything wrong.

When I say , "have a good life",
It means, have a good day's.
Like all of them to come.
Not to be confused with I don't want to be a friend or I'm offended by anything one said.

So, Job is not a thing for where I'm at.
And small town Trinidad Co.
In the Bud capital for colorado.
And I don't smoke it.
God, and my likeness by possibly 1%.
Is just trying to fit in.
Food donation place is 1, and not much of nothing.
I have said to much, and stopped and came back to finish this text.
So.
Hope you can see some of me.
Thanks for listening to my words and mind.

Good day too you all..

 

[Dcb1963]

I don't like this that I posted. Sorry about that.

I certainly didn't mean you'd get better at being without food, that's ridiculous. Although that's what it sounds like.

I meant you might get better at things like finding sources of help, knowing what's available, things like that. Although I don't even like saying that, in hindsight. 29 can mean things like learning skills, but there are lots of specific things a hexagram can mean. I should know better than to pick one out and say that's what's important. Again, sorry.

I'm happy you won the $50!

That's all right.
Between you and my interpretation of the metaphorical meaning.
That makes sense to learn my environment, control it.
And getting used to not eating would be a learning to fly.
That I am looking forward to , but when I AM pure energy.
5D , I hear is the new dawning of the age of ?
Not Aquarius , right ?
Anyways.
This is a picture of my mind.
Thinking is the best way to travel.

Enlightenment to you.
DCB@1963

 

[moss elk]

Hexagram 29.1.5.6 to 41

hi Dcb1963,

About your reading:
29 is the trouble and it involves
41 Decrease/having less.

Line 1: I've received this line when having a problem, and then discovering a problematic way of dealing with it, that would actually have made it worse.
A Double Pit.
(Advice? Avoid any things that may seem like 'get rich quick' or could get you into trouble with legal authorities, or may harm you, these sorts of things springs to mind.)


Line 5 describes a situation where there is danger, but it is only so big, and won't get bigger because you can find a way to manage it.

Line 6: an unproductive three years in a caged or trapped situation. (Or Jail?)


With 41 it is possible to have less and still make it and enjoy what we have.

Examples? A big bag of rice is cheap and can give many many meals.

If you are really stuck, yes reach out to a local charity and be happy receiving the gift when times are hard. There is no shame in this. And it is manageable.

That is the message of both 29 and 41:
Something like: Yes, this is a real problem, And there is a way through it.

 

[Dcb1963]

what I wrote is already late, now that Dcb1963 has intervened

... however, I leave it for "consideration":

I don't understand the twist in relation to the "job" in the topic... I don't know why but, right from the beginning, I hesitated to write that Ps at #4.

it's funny how the "first impressions of anything" happen... "the job" was the first idea that came to me when reading intervention #3, it would not only stabilize his situation but also allow Dcb1963 to do something in common with others in a way to put their ideals to use.
Why not imagine a job in one of those help centers where it would give him space to structure his situation, not only from a personal point of view but also in the sense of belonging to a community where altruism is at the center of his action- I think it would be a precious help.

But I don't want it to seem like I'm assigning meanings that rosada didn't want to convey.- for me, instinctively, it was the "job scenario" that appeared, but I agree that only she can know the real meaning of her sentence.

As you may have noticed, communicating in English is not something natural for me, but there is something I understand regardless of the language- The freedom to communicate my message in a polite but direct way, and that's what I did!

I don't see the reason for giving "this importance", in the way it is being given, to a detail of "what I thought rosada was conveying".

But for me it's as simple as this:

re-edit the Ps in #4.


Ps2-By reading Rosada's phrase "41. Decrease is about sharing. Is there some one you could share some of what you have with? If not food then something else?"
it (Rosada's phrase)gave me an insite where I believe that a job for Dcb1963, if possible, would be a very good thing.

breakmov

My problem is that I am permanently disabled, but I do appreciate all your words of encouragement. Thank you

 

[Liselle]

And getting used to not eating would be a learning to fly.

That is not what I meant. It sounded like that's what I meant, but that's because I wrote badly. That's why I came back and tried to correct it.

That I am looking forward to , but when I AM pure energy.

That is ridiculous and dangerous thinking. You are a human being who has to eat. Maybe you won't eat very well for a while, but please don't get any ideas that you can go without food entirely. I'm quite sure that is not what Yi meant, either.

 

[Senecatwo]

Hello friend, I'm in a bit of a similar situation to you I think, and I have gotten this reading for my situation in the recent past.

What I am seeing here first is that abyss tells you that the circumstances you're in are undeniably difficult. There is no trick that can instantly change this circumstance. A big theme I see in Abyss is that *you* are the variable part of the situation, and you can behave in such a way as to get through it.

Decrease confirms this as the secondary hex, with its reference to curbing emotions and appetites.

I'm sorry that you're in such a stressful circumstance. Being poor in today's greedy world really feels like being beset on all sides, I know because I am too.

What I see here is a need to be calm and rational about forming a budget for your next SSI check. You've got about two weeks to look at what you've got coming in, and to think about what kinds of foods last for up to a month in the cabinet.

I buy a lot of $1-2 instant rice and potato side dishes, bread, butter, and the little single serve packets of preseasoned tuna and chicken they have when I have some extra money and fill my cabinet.

Just knowing you have some basic protein, carbs, and fat already on hand really helps take the anxiety out of the situation. I think this is what line 5 is telling you, that you can make it through this stretch, by the time the two weeks is over it will seem like it went by faster than you thought.

Line 6 is the danger of letting the scarcity emotions that have built up over this time period guide your spending when you get your next check, buying whatever in the moment because it feels so good to be able to again.

Take this next check as an opportunity to start building a pantry filling routine at the beginning of every month.

I think that if you can prove that you can budget this amount of money you're getting now well, the universe will support you making a little extra in the future.

When you're well fed you can think creatively, and you can be more calm and rational enough to network with folks who could teach you skills or tell you about ways to make some spare cash that you might be able to do with your disability.

I am rooting for you friend!

 

[rosada]

Interesting how you contributed a couple of dollars to the lottery pool and won $50. That sounds like Decrease: By demonstrating your faith by sharing a small amount - you didn’t need to give more than the price of one or two tickets to be a part of the group - you created your good fortune!

I think my earlier interpretation was misinterpreted. I said 41. Decrease is about sharing. Someone else saw this as meaning getting a job but that was not my intention. Getting a job for pay would be a business transaction but 41. Decrease involves acting on faith, sharing as in making an offering.

 

[Dcb1963]

That is not what I meant. It sounded like that's what I meant, but that's because I wrote badly. That's why I came back and tried to correct it.

That is ridiculous and dangerous thinking. You are a human being who has to eat. Maybe you won't eat very well for a while, but please don't get any ideas that you can go without food entirely. I'm quite sure that is not what Yi meant, either.

Ok.
Your Kool.
Thank you for being caring and I got through this now.
I am grateful for your correction, and your a good person.
Thank you again my friend.

 

[Dcb1963]

Hello friend, I'm in a bit of a similar situation to you I think, and I have gotten this reading for my situation in the recent past.

What I am seeing here first is that abyss tells you that the circumstances you're in are undeniably difficult. There is no trick that can instantly change this circumstance. A big theme I see in Abyss is that *you* are the variable part of the situation, and you can behave in such a way as to get through it.

Decrease confirms this as the secondary hex, with its reference to curbing emotions and appetites.

I'm sorry that you're in such a stressful circumstance. Being poor in today's greedy world really feels like being beset on all sides, I know because I am too.

What I see here is a need to be calm and rational about forming a budget for your next SSI check. You've got about two weeks to look at what you've got coming in, and to think about what kinds of foods last for up to a month in the cabinet.

I buy a lot of $1-2 instant rice and potato side dishes, bread, butter, and the little single serve packets of preseasoned tuna and chicken they have when I have some extra money and fill my cabinet.

Just knowing you have some basic protein, carbs, and fat already on hand really helps take the anxiety out of the situation. I think this is what line 5 is telling you, that you can make it through this stretch, by the time the two weeks is over it will seem like it went by faster than you thought.

Line 6 is the danger of letting the scarcity emotions that have built up over this time period guide your spending when you get your next check, buying whatever in the moment because it feels so good to be able to again.

Take this next check as an opportunity to start building a pantry filling routine at the beginning of every month.

I think that if you can prove that you can budget this amount of money you're getting now well, the universe will support you making a little extra in the future.

When you're well fed you can think creatively, and you can be more calm and rational enough to network with folks who could teach you skills or tell you about ways to make some spare cash that you might be able to do with your disability.

I am rooting for you friend!

Thank you.
This has a mindset that will help me with new ideas.
Plus, I got $43. Dollars more finally on digital foodstamps.
So $343. A month is better than before.
I have to really budget it.
Seems like all the cheap stuff at store, is FAKE FOOD, they make it look good, even smells good, put some kinda taste good.
But it's hollow , byproduct that no one would eat plain.
Cost them nothing to make and package.
It's so obvious to me now, that we've been denatured and can't even hunt, grow and prepare our own food..
We got to get back to the gardens of independence, and we can have a clear mind to really appreciate and meditation.
I'm really hope this case of mine comes in soon.
1.5 million dollars is my goal.
I can get off all government assistance, take family and friends who I trust.
Get land and solar-powered, greenhouse and animals.
And NO DEADLINES And shoping for Facebook.
Thank you for you clarity and knowledge my friend.

Dean B.