New And Comfiused

[goldfisho8]

HALLO EVERYBODY
I AM NEW IN YOUR COMMUNITTY AND NEW TO I CHING AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP ME.
I have asked 2 questions and i need your insigths

1. what should i know about my relationship with g
in this questions i got hex 16 with a Nine in the fourth place .
with g we have broke up 1 year ago and know we "communicate" in a strange way. he doesn.t know that I am his ex. what I understand from the 4th line is that this relationship needs something to create enthusiasm. Am i correct?? plese feel free to correct me if i am wrong.

2. The second answer was how will affect my relation with G if i go ahead with this secret communication. ( i am planing to tell him who i am in the future).
the Hex I get was 2 with all lines changing and turns to 1.
I realy don;t know how to inteprint this combination. I seems to me a positive answer but am I not sure if I am right.

please help me

 

[Tohpol]

HALLO EVERYBODY
I AM NEW IN YOUR COMMUNITTY AND NEW TO I CHING AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP ME.
I have asked 2 questions and i need your insigths

1. what should i know about my relationship with g
in this questions i got hex 16 with a Nine in the fourth place .
with g we have broke up 1 year ago and know we "communicate" in a strange way. he doesn.t know that I am his ex. what I understand from the 4th line is that this relationship needs something to create enthusiasm. Am i correct?? plese feel free to correct me if i am wrong.

2. The second answer was how will affect my relation with G if i go ahead with this secret communication. ( i am planing to tell him who i am in the future).
the Hex I get was 2 with all lines changing and turns to 1.
I realy don;t know how to inteprint this combination. I seems to me a positive answer but am I not sure if I am right.

please help me

Hi Goldfish,

Well, this is a difficult situation.

I'm on my way out the door but I'd say that yes, 16 indicates enthusiasm but directed in the correct way. It certainly seems that this is somewhat manipulative to be pretending to be someone else and its a situation that will cause surprise, shock and any number of reactions when you tell him. Who knows? It may be a good result, but I think this is something that I would call a halt to pretty quick. But 16.4 seems to imply getting together with friends to talk it over, coming out into the open and enjoying yourself.

The second reading with 2 seems to suggest a receptivity - a letting go. Inner stillness and trusting yourself. The understandable attachment to your ex.has led you to seek ways to gain his affection which are not doing him or you any favours. This could be about trusting yourself and life. No need to hide. My take on this is that you must be open and honest in your communication and take what comes. If you lose him, it wasn't meant to be and you can find who you are really meant to be with. if you gain a new understanding all to the good. You may even gain a friend rather than a lover. Either way, resolution is calling.

The flipside is he may want to get back with you, in which case the readings take on a different meaning. It depends what the situation is right now. Without having more data I can't say.

That's my advise Goldfish, but I'm sure others will offer their ideas too.

Anyhow, gotta go,

take care,

Topal

 

[willowfox]

". what should i know about my relationship with g"

Hex 16.4 says that he is excited, interested and attracted to you, even though he does not know that it is you you is texting him.

Hex 2 says for you to be responsive to him, let him lead the way.

"The second answer was how will affect my relation with G if i go ahead with this secret communication. ( i am planing to tell him who i am in the future)."

Hex 2 > hex 1 this says go through with your plan to tell him the truth and something very positive will result from this action.

 

[goldfisho8]

hi topal
Thanks for your help. you migth be rigth that what i do is manupulative although the reason is that i want to say him some things I needn' t have the opportunity the strengh or the knowdlege.
if you have to say more to me I would be very happy to hear.
goldfish

 

[goldfisho8]

hi willfox.
thanks for helping me on this.
your intepretation is very close to what I whould like to see happening. I ll keep examining the text to find out what the i ching tries to tell me.

if you have to say more to me I would be very happy to hear.
goldfish

 

[Trojina]

Aren't there many books and plays with this same plot - erm cyrano de bergerac for example -(oops i dunno if I got that right )- anyway its a story where an ugly man with a large nose is in love with a beautiful woman but she is in love with a handsome but dull man who can't write good love letters so the ugly man writes letters for him - and the lady falls in love eventually with the writer of the letters - not the attractive moron - or something like that.
Hmm the moral being she falls in love with persons essence expressed in the letters not the outer appearance

Sigh, this is so romantic, but goldfish you don't need the Yi to tell you the only way to go is to be truthful - I mean one day you'll have to meet right, unless you want to text forever - and then he'll know its you, unless you go in disguise

Someone here said 2 changing to 1 is highly significant - but i can't recall who

 

[laylab]

In this context of human relationships what is the core value of 16?
What would 16 with no changing lines imply at it's root about human relations?

edit: pretending to be someone other than who you are with him.. is a BAD idea. Imagine how violated he is going to feel. Do you think that will damage any chances for re-establishing trust?

 

[rosada]

Oooh, what an opportunity! You could ask him why he broke up with his last girlfriend, THAT would be interesting to know. You then say, "OMG, I think I know her! Is she the really pretty girl who works at such-and-such? Yes! I met her at this gathering and she was talking about YOU! I think she's still in love with you. Gosh, maybe you ought to give her a call..."

 

[cejudesc]

One would say again what I had said before because you receive again conflictive hexagram, this time twice

a crash... a conflict... the breakdown of a relation....

but what do I know?

 

[goldfisho8]

Oooh, what an opportunity! You could ask him why he broke up with his last girlfriend, THAT would be interesting to know. You then say, "OMG, I think I know her! Is she the really pretty girl who works at such-and-such? Yes! I met her at this gathering and she was talking about YOU! I think she's still in love with you. Gosh, maybe you ought to give her a call..."

I am not sure that I understand the what do you want to say to me but this you are writing is not me. As i write I am thinking of telling him who am I. He already knows my real name.

 

[miakoda]

Goldfish:

Although it looks like fun from the outside, like living in a book or a movie, I would think it wouldn't be easy to go through--having your heart out there and not knowing if it will work out or not.

I think you should take very seriously receiving 2 with all changing lines to 1. Someone said in another thread I read in the archive that if they ever got that, they'd sell everything they owned and go off and devote their lives to spiritual growth. I don't think that's what the Yi Jing is trying to say to you here. In my translation, 2 with all changing lines is "Perpetually advantageous. A long-term effort from which great benefit will grow." That's about as good as it gets in the Book of Changes. If I was in your position, I'd honor the connection.

You asked then: "What should I know about my relationship with g?" and received 16.4>2. 16 is enthusiasm in Wilhelm, but I think later translations are more accurate. Karcher says "Providing For" and LiSe says "Weaving Images." A Karcher book describes the line as:

"Previously provided for. Great Acquisitions. Do not doubt. You join partners as a hair clasp gathers the hair."

I've received this answer frequently. In my experiences it has meant that the situation has all of the elements needed to move forward and you should trust that it will work out. It has also sometimes meant for me something along the lines of "we already told you!"

If I was in your position, I'd ask the Yi Jing something like: How do I enact this? or What can I do to further the situation between myself and g? or What concrete action should I take with g? That could guide you about the best approach.

All the best,

Miakoda

 

[goldfisho8]

Hi miakoda,
i read your answer but unfurtenly I am in work. I print you answer and i will be back to you.
thanks !!!

 

[goldfisho8]

I follow your suggestion and i ask what next. if you want see thread new and comfused part 2
thanks for all