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Dear all,
I have decided to switch jobs and I am looking for possible job opportunities for more than several months now (it is not so easy with my specific background) I have now finally got through several rounds of interview for one job position which seemed a bit more fun in the beginning but i finally have the feeling at once that it would be too much of a change of direction for me and innerly I had this feeling that I might not fit in eventually. I took several days to think about it but will have to finally make up my mind soon if I take the offer or not. I tossed the coins with the question how will things turn out for me if i say yes and start working with this new company, and got 25.1.5-> 35. The changing lines in hex 25 are telling me that i should not force myself and listen to my inner voice which is telling me to back out but on the other hand i do not understand the link to hex 35 and what it means in the context of the question. Thanx for your helpful insights in advance, as always...Save
 

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Dear all,
I have decided to switch jobs and I am looking for possible job opportunities for more than several months now (it is not so easy with my specific background) I have now finally got through several rounds of interview for one job position which seemed a bit more fun in the beginning but i finally have the feeling at once that it would be too much of a change of direction for me and innerly I had this feeling that I might not fit in eventually. I took several days to think about it but will have to finally make up my mind soon if I take the offer or not. I tossed the coins with the question how will things turn out for me if i say yes and start working with this new company, and got 25.1.5-> 35. The changing lines in hex 25 are telling me that i should not force myself and listen to my inner voice which is telling me to back out but on the other hand i do not understand the link to hex 35 and what it means in the context of the question. Thanx for your helpful insights in advance, as always...Save

35 is the offer, the opportunity I think and actually with this cast I would re think saying 'no' to it. You are being offered something good here. In 35 the prince is given a gift of horses, horses stand for something that can take you places quickly. It's a time of opportunity and opportunity isn't always there so what do you choose to do with it ?

I think the 25 is the chance, the unexpected, something you aren't familiar with perhaps. 25.1 says all is as it should be and 25.5 that any distress will sort itself out.

There are two ways to read this and I would definitely go with your way if that's what you feel strongly.

You see 25 is also called 'disentangling', keeping free of engagements so your take on the cast is perfectly valid.

But the other way to see it is "Wow...this is an unexpected opportunity"

Yang pattern is 3 you came to this through exploration, it's not something you feel very knowledgeable in. Yin pattern is 50, transformation.


If you already are pretty much sure you don't want to be involved here I think that is a valid choice and I feel the cast shows that. The cast could be seen as saying it is quite okay to disentangle (25) from this opportunity (35). But also this is an opportunity and you did ask about saying yes so it can also seem a good cast for saying yes. 25.1 shows one free of complications, maybe the job won't be as entrapping as you may think ? Or maybe you won't get it, but it is a real potential opportunity, that is what the 35 shows. Some jobs aren't really opportunities but this looks like it is.

I think you have total free choice here. It's fine if you take it and fine if you don't.
 

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Hi

thought I will give it one more shot and asked Iching what will my situation regarding work chances be like if i do not take this job opportunity. Since my first cast pointed into different directions I guess... So the second time i got 3.1.4->45 for what will be if I do not take this offer :) seems like there will be a time of stillness and then maybe more opportunities to come from friends or people close to me, who feel like they can help me in my situation ... Currently i have some other negotiations going on in several other companies which I was able to approach through good reference of my friends and colleagues, who were willing to help me when they heard I am looking for a new job. Maybe sooner or later, one of these is going to come true. I guess hex 45 might be pointing towards more of a position where there is team work and being a team player will be very important? currently I have more of an independent position... :confused:

anyways thanks for taking the time and helping me to understand better my first cast :bows:...

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35 is the offer, the opportunity I think and actually with this cast I would re think saying 'no' to it. You are being offered something good here. In 35 the prince is given a gift of horses, horses stand for something that can take you places quickly. It's a time of opportunity and opportunity isn't always there so what do you choose to do with it ?

I think the 25 is the chance, the unexpected, something you aren't familiar with perhaps. 25.1 says all is as it should be and 25.5 that any distress will sort itself out.

There are two ways to read this and I would definitely go with your way if that's what you feel strongly.

You see 25 is also called 'disentangling', keeping free of engagements so your take on the cast is perfectly valid.

But the other way to see it is "Wow...this is an unexpected opportunity"

Yang pattern is 3 you came to this through exploration, it's not something you feel very knowledgeable in. Yin pattern is 50, transformation.


If you already are pretty much sure you don't want to be involved here I think that is a valid choice and I feel the cast shows that. The cast could be seen as saying it is quite okay to disentangle (25) from this opportunity (35). But also this is an opportunity and you did ask about saying yes so it can also seem a good cast for saying yes. 25.1 shows one free of complications, maybe the job won't be as entrapping as you may think ? Or maybe you won't get it, but it is a real potential opportunity, that is what the 35 shows. Some jobs aren't really opportunities but this looks like it is.

I think you have total free choice here. It's fine if you take it and fine if you don't.
 
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Hi thought I will give it one more shot and asked Iching what will my situation regarding work chances be like if i do not take this job opportunity. Got 3.1.4->45 :) seems like there will a time of stillness and then maybe then more opportunities to come which i guess will not have the form of usual work contracts... Maybe even having more employers?

3 was the yang pattern of your last answer, the door to it , where you were starting from, yin pattern 50 showed the cooking of it all to where it became something formed. Here I'm seeing 3 as being at square one, right at the beginning, a fresh piece of paper to write on so to speak. My sense is if you don't take the job you will just be longer at square one, at the beginning. I feel the 25 answer which had the 50 yin change pattern sort of 'fast forwarded' you a bit to actually producing valuable work.

Yes so my sense is it's fine not to take it if you prefer because other opportunites can come (3.4) but it could all take some time. So if you don't take this job it's like you are still waiting to begin, still exploring and considering options, but if you do take it you are straight on to the next level. There's probably much you don't yet know about the job so it's all a bit like a voyage of discovery.


The question is do you want to jump on this ship (job) and sail straight out to sea or do you want to wait in the dock and see if better suited ships come along ?

I think you will be waiting a while if you don't take this job as 3 takes some time to actually manifest anything, it's still exploring. So do you jump aboard or do you sit and wait for the next ship ?



I hope you like my metaphor :D Overall your choice comes down to how happy you are to remain waiting to actually begin


Of course if they don't offer you the job anyway the dilemma won't apply
 

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I do like that metaphor! it is great! Well I will see in the following days how the situation unfolds, I will keep you updated :)

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Hi I have an update, so i guess i misunderstood the situation there is one final round of interview to go to, they just wanted to know if i am interested or not in the position. So I said yes since if i go there it will be chance to ask further questions and find out more about the position... Save
 

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Good, keep us posted :D
 

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Save, how many interviews have you been to?

I'm asking because h35 - mentions audience with the king three times.
Will it be the 3rd one?
 

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I had first two telephone interviews, then a face to face with local manager. The next one would be with a bunch of international managers. ;-)

Save, how many interviews have you been to?

I'm asking because h35 - mentions audience with the king three times.
Will it be the 3rd one?
 

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hi, so went to the interview, if they ll like me there will be one more final one. so it will be the fifth one (but third one in terms of face 2 face). :rolleyes:
 

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Dear all
unfortunatelly i just got today the reply that i was not chosen for the very last grand finale (the last interview with the big boss)... So i guess i should be happy hex 35 not getting it? :) or just be happy with the outcome anyways, since that is the way it was supposed to be...
 

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Ah dear sorry to hear that. But I think you're right this is something to take your leave of with no regrets, after all you had doubts from the beginning. Maybe there was something valuable to you in the process of their excessive interviewing, you must have got better at being interviewed after all that.

Thank you for keeping us updated, it's useful feedback on this particular cast. Do you regret spending all that time in interview or do you think it was valuable anyway ? Clearly they did think a lot of you to call you back over and over again, that must have been the 35. The lines in 25 showing you disentangling from it with no regrets really....For some reason I still feel it's good you went through the process, it might be because I feel you needed to live out that 35. Indeed you could still be in a 35 ish time where you will be recognised for your skills, they must have recognised them so so will other employers. Also don't be surprised if their chosen candidate falls through and they call you back. I say that just because I have seen that happen many times. If their chosen candidate doesn't work out you see they won't be able to afford to run interviews again so what happens is they call the runner up in.
 

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I am not sure, i actually had a few sleepless nights because of this offer ... Hard to say if they will come back to me at this point. So far I think I could have saved some time by rejecting in the first place, it really cost me quite sime energy. Also i tried to get to advice of more experienced people in the business and they tried to talk me off, but on the other hand, because I hanged on till the end I am at this stage where I am sure with theur refusal that there would be no superb opportunity for me in this case. But I keep on looking for new opportunities... Thanks anyways for your inputs, was definitely an interesting discussion :)
 

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Just wanted to sum it up:
How will things turn out for me if i say yes and start working with this new company? 25.1.5 → 35
25.1 → 12 (Stagnating), Legge:
Shows its subject free from all insincerity.
His advance will be accompanied with good fortune.


25.5 → 21 (Biting Through), Legge:
Shows one who is free from insincerity, and yet has fallen ill.
Let him not use medicine, and he will have occasion for joy (in his recovery).


You want to make progress, have an audience with the king and get his support [35], your motives are pure [.1].
But there will be an illness(misfortune) for which you are not responsible at all [.5].
Advice: just go with the flow (path of least resistance, minimum effort), no need to plan, the situation will resolve itself [25].


What will be if I do not take this offer? 3.1.4 → 45

3.1 → 8 (Holding Together), Daniels:
Your path is blocked. Stay calm.
Seek helpers.


3.4 → 17 (Accepting Guidance), Daniels:
With some help, progress is possible.


H3 is about new beginnings and h45 is about sacrifice/return/giving up/preparing for something new.
Opposite of h45 is h26 - when man goes out to serve and earn his bread.
So what we have here is a hesitation and change of mind (.1), abandoning the journey and switching to some other goal (.4).

Answer: you'll find something else, things will be fine.
 

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I have been on the job hunt for ages, since september actually, so i would be delighted if I finally found something suitable and fun :D many thanks though! :bows:
 

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