New website / Divination method

[tuckchang]

Hi! Dear all,

I just established a website and sincerely invite you to pay a visit. There might be some differences from what you are familiar with. However, I would like to share with you and very much appreciate your comment.

From the viewpoint of divination method, there are several ones available when the moving line is concerned. Two of them which are known to me, are as follows for your reference.

I) Method I
A) 1 moving line: Please read the text of this line.
B) 2 moving lines: Please read the texts of these 2 lines but the upper one is regarded as the main judgment.
C) 3 moving lines: All six lines change; please read the text of the changed hexagram. However, if the first line is not a moving line, please read the text of the original hexagram as the main judgment.
D) 4 moving lines: All four moving lines change; please read the texts of the two unchanged lines of the new hexagram and the lower one is regarded as the main judgment.
E) 5 moving lines: All five moving lines change and please read the text of the unchanged line of the new hexagram.
F) 6 moving line: All six moving lines change and please read the text of the new hexagram. But the extra line (i.e. the one after line 6) should be referred to if they are the hexagram Chien (hexagram 1) and Kun (2).
G) No moving line: Please read the text of the hexagram.
Remark: Usually the upper trigram refers to the future and the bottom trigram, the cause.

II) Method II: Please refer to my website: www.iching123.com, Divination method / Appendix.

General speaking, there is no better or worse method; all depend on which one is better workable with you.

It goes without saying that the message delivered by the text must be paraphrased in accordance with time and place, people and situations. However, I still include some reference materials for divination at my website which are mainly summarized in accordance with Confucian thoughts and some diviners’ experience. I provide for your reference and I remain.

Best regards
Tuck :bows:

 

[proph]

Interesting..

Your interpretation of understanding the contextual parameters of the lines is useful. Thanks.

:bows:

 

[Tohpol]

Your interpretation of understanding the contextual parameters of the lines is useful. Thanks.

:bows:

Indeed - very interesting. Welcome TuckChang. I'll enjoy having a good look at all your work.

Topal

 

[rosada]

A lot of useful information all in one place!

In explaining your method, I think you may have made a typo with step C. Do you really mean change all 6 lines if 3 lines are changing?

 

[tuckchang]

Hi ! Rosada,

Thanks for your comment.
Three lines are the moving line and three aren't; whether the hexagram will change depends on its foundation i.e. line 1.

Best Regards
Tuck

 

[rosada]

Hmm..still not sure I'm getting this. Can you give an example where "C) 3 moving lines: all six lines change" would apply? I would think if you had 3 moving lines only 3 lines would change.

 

[tuckchang]

Hi ! Rosada,

Its logic is:
When the moving line is below 2 (included), the hexagram won't change.
If the moving line is over 3 (excluded), the hexagram will change.
3 is a critical number.

Since English is not my native language, sometimes I can't pertinently and precisely express myself; sorry for this. Maybe I should put it like:

3 moving lines: If the first line is not a moving line, please read the text of the original hexagram as the main judgment; otherwise, please read the text of the changed hexagram (with all six lines changing).

Please comment.

Regards
Tuck

 

[lienshan]

B) 2 moving lines: Please read the texts of these 2 lines but the upper one is regarded as the main judgment.

There is a timeline according to Shuo Gua chapter 2. A forewards movement 1-2-3-4-5-6, from a line
below to a line above, is what's going into the past. A backwards movement 6-5-4-3-2-1, from a line
above to a line below, is what's going to happen. The upper one is this way only regarded as the main
judgement, because it's the first in a timeline.

Two changes can theoretically happen at exactly the very same time, but almost never in real life :bows:

lienshan

 

[rosada]

Hi Tuck,

Thank you for explaining this to me.

Perhaps an example would help. How would you look at this hexagram?
6.2.3.4.
That is, hexagram six with change lines 2, 3, 4. I would think you would only change lines 2, 3, and 4 and thus get hexagram 53. But are you saying all six lines should be changed, and thus 6.2.3.4 becomes hexagram 36?

We are about to start discussing hexagram 47 over on the memorizing thread. I hope you'll post your ideas about 47 there.

Best wishes,
rosada

 

[tuckchang]

Hi ! Rosada,

I will say:
6.2.3.4: I read the text of hexagram 6.
6.1.3.4: I read the text of hexagram 36.
I catch your point; it might sound not logical to you but I think it is quite fair.

Hexagram 47, thanks for invitation, will do.

Best regards
Tuck

 

[rosada]

Thanks Tuck, I just wanted to be sure I was reading you correctly.
I will enjoy studying your ideas.
Rosada.