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Hi,

I sent an email recently to someone I've been working with on a project to see if they wanted to catch up over the weekend for an afternoon drink. I didn't receive a reply, which I thought was a little strange.

I asked the I Ching: Why didn't x respond to the email?

I got 22.6 > 36

To me I thought line 6 meant that he didn't reply because he didn't want to (well, der), but that the lack of reply was literally the stripped back, as unadorned a communication as possible. Naught.

36 is of course myself, a little wounded.
 

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You have opened the gateway to love 22.6
But Yi is strongly advising you to back off ! bugaloo 36

and make light of it - keep low profile - he will advance
toward you later but now act as if you have casually forgotten
all about it - no biggie
 

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Hi,

I sent an email recently to someone I've been working with on a project to see if they wanted to catch up over the weekend for an afternoon drink. I didn't receive a reply, which I thought was a little strange.

I asked the I Ching: Why didn't x respond to the email?

I got 22.6 > 36

To me I thought line 6 meant that he didn't reply because he didn't want to (well, der), but that the lack of reply was literally the stripped back, as unadorned a communication as possible. Naught.

36 is of course myself, a little wounded.

hexagram 22: Beauty
Your invitation was simply to enjoy a little free time with your partner, nothing more.
Line 6: Simple grace. No blame.
The meaning of the hexagram is reiterated in this line, and there is an additional meaning of 'no blame' which is advice on how to handle the line emotionally speaking. The top line is often the departure of the energy of the hexagram, and in this case it refers to the departure of a simple, beautiful moment which is inherently fleeting in its nature anyway.

Changing to Hexagram 36
When the simple invitation is not accepted then the easy beauty of the invitation turns and takes you to a dark side where you are hurt, and confused by the lack of response.
 

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Hi,

I sent an email recently to someone I've been working with on a project to see if they wanted to catch up over the weekend for an afternoon drink. I didn't receive a reply, which I thought was a little strange.

I asked the I Ching: Why didn't x respond to the email?

I got 22.6 > 36

To me I thought line 6 meant that he didn't reply because he didn't want to (well, der), but that the lack of reply was literally the stripped back, as unadorned a communication as possible. Naught.

36 is of course myself, a little wounded.

I agree with your interpretation, take it very simply like 22.6. It says he just hasn't replied....

ETA if there is a reason he may have felt it just not necessary to reply yet ? Theres not a need to place alot of emphasis on 36 here IMO
 
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Hi,

I sent an email recently to someone I've been working with on a project to see if they wanted to catch up over the weekend for an afternoon drink. I didn't receive a reply, which I thought was a little strange.

I asked the I Ching: Why didn't x respond to the email?

I got 22.6 > 36

To me I thought line 6 meant that he didn't reply because he didn't want to (well, der), but that the lack of reply was literally the stripped back, as unadorned a communication as possible. Naught.

36 is of course myself, a little wounded.

suggestion...you could ask something like 'how should i receive the fact hes not answered'...the answer may be a clearer more direct answer to you as none of us can say for sure why he didn't answer you.
 

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I was wondering, did you mean this coming weekend, to catch up? If so, it is only Tuesday, and he may yet reply. If not, and he really did just let your invitation drop, it could be a number of things.

Sometimes I come home to 60 emails and feel too tired to open them or reply to them.

In any case, I think 22.6 is saying to you, that you wrote the invitation in simple, unadorned innocence, hence there is no blame. You are feeling wounded, but I think you ought to do as Trojan says: Ask the I Ching if you really OUGHT to be feeling so?

ETA: I have sometimes emailed a certain author I have worked with in the past, asking even direct questions, and the answer is : Silence. I believe he hates me, only to hear from him some time later, and he is warm and full of praises. I realize your situation is different as you are working with this person, but sometimes silence doesn't really speak volumes.
 

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I was wondering, did you mean this coming weekend, to catch up? If so, it is only Tuesday, and he may yet reply. If not, and he really did just let your invitation drop, it could be a number of things.

Sometimes I come home to 60 emails and feel too tired to open them or reply to them.

In any case, I think 22.6 is saying to you, that you wrote the invitation in simple, unadorned innocence, hence there is no blame. You are feeling wounded, but I think you ought to do as Trojan says: Ask the I Ching if you really OUGHT to be feeling so?
ETA: I have sometimes emailed a certain author I have worked with in the past, asking even direct questions, and the answer is : Silence. I believe he hates me, only to hear from him some time later, and he is warm and full of praises. I realize your situation is different as you are working with this person, but sometimes silence doesn't really speak volumes.

:confused: I never said anything about 'ought' and I can't think of a worse question (for me) than 'ought' I to be feeling something since that ties the answer down ...leaves the answer less open to express itself.


I suggested a very open question such as "how shall I take this" or "how shall I understand this ?" For me that often brings me clarification about where I am with regard tothe others intent etc etc which is afterall what i need to know

I'd say most often silence does indeed speak volumes about levels of interest or 'terms and conditions' of the relationship. By the sound of it your author friend contacts you when he feels like it and finds it convenient to ignore your direct questions. Thats not really a very equal relationship as its on his terms...but if you don't mind his terms its okay. In a romantic relationship it generally isn't okay though ....so yes silence does speak volumes....sometimes



ETA I actually don't think the 36 here has anything to do with feeling wounded...so I wouldn't suggest a question that she should ask if she ought to feel wounded. There is one line moving...it carries alot of emphasis and so generally holds much of the answer IMO.
 
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Thanks for the responses, I feel that I've learnt a lot more about 22 Adorning.

Foxx77 it was the weekend gone that the invitation was for, not the weekend coming.

Thanks for your suggestion Trojan. I've asked: "How should I understand the fact that he didn't reply"

Hex 49 Radical Change. No changing lines.

So, my own thinking about this needs radical change. I need to be more flexible, and try to relate to people in a new way.

FYI, I've returned to university after almost 8 years in the workforce. I'm quite a bit older than most, although they don't realise it. So this hex makes some sense to me.
 

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:confused: I never said anything about 'ought' and I can't think of a worse question (for me) than 'ought' I to be feeling something since that ties the answer down ...leaves the answer less open to express itself.


I suggested a very open question such as "how shall I take this" or "how shall I understand this ?" For me that often brings me clarification about where I am with regard tothe others intent etc etc which is afterall what i need to know

I'd say most often silence does indeed speak volumes about levels of interest or 'terms and conditions' of the relationship. By the sound of it your author friend contacts you when he feels like it and finds it convenient to ignore your direct questions. Thats not really a very equal relationship as its on his terms...but if you don't mind his terms its okay. In a romantic relationship it generally isn't okay though ....so yes silence does speak volumes....sometimes



ETA I actually don't think the 36 here has anything to do with feeling wounded...so I wouldn't suggest a question that she should ask if she ought to feel wounded. There is one line moving...it carries alot of emphasis and so generally holds much of the answer IMO.
maybe you did not understand my meaning-- I actually meant it in a rhetorical way, such as, "But ought one to be feeling badly, or is it just your own reaction?" Did not really mean it as, well, maybe the I Ching will tell you, "yeah, you ought to feel really badly." I was really just trying to show that feeling wounded might be totally unnecessary.

And yes, you may be right about my author "friend". I think I have a tendency both to take too much, and to offer too much hope and comfort to others. So maybe it really is bad, and the silence is saying so. Or maybe not.

In any case, I myself would wonder, in such a case, "Ought I to feel badly, or is it unnecessary?". That I do stand by. Also: I did not know this was a romantic question: I had thought it was about a work partner, only. If there were romantic overtones, I guess I missed them.

Also, 36 in many translations is all about "brilliance wounded" and has everything to do with being wounded. In any case, I was speaking to the one (deepstillwater)who asked the question and did the reading: and to her , only.
 
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In any case, I think 22.6 is saying to you, that you wrote the invitation in simple, unadorned innocence, hence there is no blame. You are feeling wounded, but I think you ought to do as Trojan says: Ask the I Ching if you really OUGHT to be feeling so?

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Also, 36 in many translations is all about "brilliance wounded" and has everything to do with being wounded. In any case, I was speaking to the one (deepstillwater)who asked the question and did the reading: and to her , only.

I responded becasue you bought me into your post misrepresenting what I said IMO...Its easier just to say what you want to say without bringing me into it if you don't want me to pick up on it...


I am quite well aware of what 36 is about :confused: But I'm not going by rote learning I'm using my own judgement here that the whole wounding aspect for receiving 22.6 was very much over emphasised here IMO so I didn't focus much on 36. All we give is our views here nothing more. I gave mine.


If you would rather I didn't pick you up on what you said I said just write what you think....I'd much prefer that since I don't think you know what I think at all :D

(BTW there are other aspects to 36 than wounding...there is hiding, secrecy , all sorts. )


Thanks and Goodbye
 

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I responded becasue you bought me into your post misrepresenting what I said IMO...Its easier just to say what you want to say without bringing me into it if you don't want me to pick up on it...


I am quite well aware of what 36 is about :confused: But I'm not going by rote learning I'm using my own judgement here that the whole wounding aspect for receiving 22.6 was very much over emphasised here IMO so I didn't focus much on 36. All we give is our views here nothing more. I gave mine.


If you would rather I didn't pick you up on what you said I said just write what you think....I'd much prefer that since I don't think you know what I think at all :D

(BTW there are other aspects to 36 than wounding...there is hiding, secrecy , all sorts. )


Thanks and Goodbye
Yes, I think as she whom my response was aimed at found it apt, it is best to not bring each other in, and I was really just piggy-backing off what you said about re-questioning, not using you as a guide to my own response.

I think whether H36 is referred to as "Darkening of the Light" or "Brilliance Wounded" or "Wounded Brightness", in this context the questioner felt herself to be wounded (in her own words, "36 is of course myself, a little wounded".) by a lack of reply to her email. I wondered if she in fact ought to feel this way, and believe that to frame this to the I Ching is perfectly appropriate. Cheers.:p
 

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Just thought I'd throw in my view of 36..

I tend to agree with both foxx AND trojan in that I''ve found it to be nearly always about someone being both wounded AND hiding..

(And 22 in the context of people or feelings is just one of those hex for me..where somebody is usually pretending to be or feel something they are not, for the sake of appearance..)

I thought I'd share ;)
 

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Just thought I'd throw in my view of 36..

I tend to agree with both foxx AND trojan in that I''ve found it to be nearly always about someone being both wounded AND hiding..

(And 22 in the context of people or feelings is just one of those hex for me..where somebody is usually pretending to be or feel something they are not, for the sake of appearance..)

I thought I'd share ;)

As you know an answer is alot more that a couple of key words. My POV was that when theres one line changingit carries much import...and here it is specifically that there is no pretense. 36.6 here the fan yao is just a mirror image. Thats my own view...no one has to agree with it and all are entitled to their view.
 

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