Oppressed

[pakua]

Hi all,

Hmm, I'm impressed. And oppressed.

I've been having a sad experience with a friend recently, for no real reason that I could tell. But it occurred to me that someone else we both know may be causing problems.

So I asked is this other person the cause of the problems - answer 47.5

I take that as a yes.

 

[RindaR]

...agreed...

Rinda

 

[brian]

Kun--exhausting, lake above, water below. A dry lake, where all the water has drained away and gone below. Represented also as a tree encircled and confined by a mouth--a tree that has grown to the point that it has fully occupied its bounds and has fully depleted all that the earth had provided for it--it wanes, it dies, and is devoured.

Kun the devouring mouth, kun the nurturing soil, see how they are the same, as what gives comes to take, feeding on what it sustains.

Like all things kun is an end that serves as a beginning for new things. And yet kun is one of the most severe places one can encounter, filled with frustration, regret, restriction--to seek the positive side of this dark gua is to understand it well.

Growing upward, seeping downward, eventually reaching ones peak, the height of ones development, stagnation, decay and ruin come, through change we break the bounds that have been set, and as something new continue on further than possible.

A tree that can grow no more must itself change or be changed.

Kun;Jie Relief does not come easily to those who are confined and restricted. Typically exhaustion comes from too much or not enough, but it is the exhaustion that stems from neither of these that proves itself the most stubborn and trying. Knowing what one wishes to do, knowing that what one seeks is right--not able to reach ones goal, not able to fulfill ones purpose-exhausted by ones own effort and will, one finds relief and escapes this place by discovering a path never before seen.

Walking a path and encountering an obstacle, becoming entangled with that which you seek to overcome--this is truely the nature of kun. Wrestling with a complicated knot, becoming frustrated, growing weary, an endless cycle--becoming passive, changing ones nature, yet retaining ones purpose, slipping free with ease and going beyond the end of ones means.

 

[candid]

Hi Pakua,

Not enough info here to interpret that as a yes or no. Red sashes or purple knee bands refer to ministers, whose job it is to help. They either haven't yet arrived or they themselves are responsible for the injury, but this isn't determined automatically. In either case, the relating hex. is 40. So I'd read that as a 'let it go and be healed?.

 

[pakua]

Hi Brian,

Your words are beautiful and comforting. You really capture the essence of the feeling. Thank you.

Candid, later I asked about what's going on with that 3rd person and got 23 unchanging, so that's pretty clear I think.

This is all kind of humbling. Here I was thinking I was finally starting to make some headway in understanding Yi, and then out of the blue... big surprise. I didn't see anything coming. There were only positive hexes for a long while. Although last week there was an odd thing happened, and when I asked about what was it, I got 50.2.6. The texts about line 2 say no harm, don't worry about it, and line 6 is pretty positive, so I ignored it. And I ignored the relating hex too because I usually don't know what to do with it. This time I think I get what to do with it.

But it does seem to indicate that 50.2 can do more harm than is indicated in the texts.

 

[candid]

"But it does seem to indicate that 50.2 can do more harm than is indicated in the texts."

Yup. If we let it.

 

[pakua]

Candid, it took me all night, but I think I get you. Keep working at it. Thanks.

What I find fascinating is the apparent connection between 50.2 (envy of others) and 47.5 (oppressed by the minister) and then 23 (downfall).

And on reflection, it's obviously mostly my own fault. Big sigh.

I know I've read it here before, but having a bunch of great hexes doesn't necessarily mean much. One can still screw things up.

 

[candid]

Screwing up is an art form.

Consider 23 more as letting go of something rather than a downfall. Similar to 40, only 40 is more gentle and voluntary, whereas 23 leaves you no choice; it sort of rips it away. (ouch)

 

[Sparhawk]

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That's how I imagine a good bikini waxing...

Hmm, a new meaning for 23...

Legal Disclaimer: I'll say this here first: if I ever find a waxing or depilatory product being marketed as <font color="ff0000"><font size="+2">23</font></font> I'll sue!! There, now is copyrighted.

L

 

[candid]

Oh, and 23 also doesn't leave the wound unattended. Rather than beating ourselves up over the loss, we give ourselves a break, nurturing our way back to health and completeness. The result is a stronger and more fruitful being, as with pruning a rose bush or tree.

 

[candid]

Me thinks you're splitting hairs now, Luis.

 

[pakua]

A followup to this...

I asked recently about how it would be if I was in the vicinity of the person mentioned in the first post above, and got 62.3. Needless to say, I stayed away.

Amazing... talk about consistency.