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hi all,

a small exercise for all... since tomorrow will be a particular day for me.

so... I asked:
what do I have to expect tomorrow from YY? 58 2.4-> 3

well... my contribution about is:
I expect a minimal gesture from YY :rolleyes:

tomorrow evening I will update the topic with it's real and concrete meaning ;)

any answer are welcome
:bows:
 
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58 (double dui or mouth) suggests that on your special day you will be dining with YY. Line 1 concerns wealth, so something of value will be discussed or exchanged. Line 4 concerns friends, implying that the meeting will be intimate. And hexagram 3 (in one of its meanings) concerns recruitment or joining. What you may expect is a higher level of friendship.

Your description of the casting is somehow in error: 58.1.4 > 29. But never mind. I think 58.1.4 > 3 is a Freudian slip that reveals the true outcome.
 

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thank you Pacossin,
I've just correct the error.. you were right about. it's 58->3 with lines 2 and 4 moving
 

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I've just correct the error..

Line 4 says: "After ridding himself of mistakes a man has joy" -- further confirmation of my optimistic reading :) It's already coming true. I'm in suspense for tomorrow.
 

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nothing about the second line in connection with the forth? you answered about the first ;)

any way thank you
I'll update tomorrow
 

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58 (double dui or mouth) suggests that on your special day you will be dining with YY. Line 1 concerns wealth, so something of value will be discussed or exchanged. Line 4 concerns friends, implying that the meeting will be intimate. And hexagram 3 (in one of its meanings) concerns recruitment or joining. What you may expect is a higher level of friendship.

Your description of the casting is somehow in error: 58.1.4 > 29. But never mind. I think 58.1.4 > 3 is a Freudian slip that reveals the true outcome.

Tom he got 58.2.4 not 58.1.4 ! This is the second time recently you misread the answer, this is the second time I corrected you... he actually did get 58.2.4>3 so it was not a Freudian slip you were the one Freudian slipping.

If this happens again I will give you a detention, or lines...or something ! :rofl:
 
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hi all,

a small exercise for all... since tomorrow will be a particular day for me.

so... I asked:
what do I have to expect tomorrow from YY? 58 2.4-> 3

well... my contribution about is:
I expect a minimal gesture from YY :rolleyes:

tomorrow evening I will update the topic with it's real and concrete meaning ;)

any answer are welcome
:bows:

Heck all I see is kissing :eek: 58 may be two open lakes, I also find 58 to be open mouths...and open other things too.

I'm assuming this is a date with a romantic interest though


Hmmm well anyway it should be fun I think but with alot of uncertainty thrown in. maybe you don't really know where you are with one another (3) and also one or both of you isn't quite sure if its worth it (58.4) i think theres no guarantee of this continuing but it should be fun....and if kissing happens well it confirms my 58 open mouth theory

Hmm I find theres so much uncertainty in 58.4 it can be quite paralysing...so maybe you should take your chances when you can


58.4 can be a round of
shall i
shan't i
shall i
shan't i
shall i
shan't i



I look forward to hearing the full details tomorrow


BTW is there a prize for the closest answer ?
 

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Tom he got 58.2.4 not 58.1.4 ! This is the second time recently you misread the answer, this is the second time I corrected you... he actually did get 58.2.4>3 so it was not a Freudian slip you were the one Freudian slipping.

If this happens again I will give you a detention, or lines...or something ! :rofl:

thank you Pacossin,
I've just correct the error.. you were right about. it's 58->3 with lines 2 and 4 moving

my bad..... he wasn't wrong....
 

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oh i get it.... i think...you edited it later


maybe I'll let him off
 

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. . . maybe I'll let him off

And I was hoping to stay in after school with you :) Ginnie thinks of 58.2 as the hula hoop line.

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?p=125729#post125729

Nine in the second place means:
Sincere joyousness. Good fortune.
Remorse disappears.

Sincere is fu2, and is the same character as truth in hexagram 61's Inner Truth, suggesting commitment and loyalty. Line 2 is a dynamic place, in this context suggesting travel or dancing. Could tomorrow be Patro's birthday when he will be surrounded by a circle of friends?
 

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And I was hoping to stay in after school with you :) Ginnie thinks of 58.2 as the hula hoop line.

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?p=125729#post125729

Nine in the second place means:
Sincere joyousness. Good fortune.
Remorse disappears.

Sincere is fu2, and is the same character as truth in hexagram 61's Inner Truth, suggesting commitment and loyalty. Line 2 is a dynamic place, in this context suggesting travel or dancing. Could tomorrow be Patro's birthday when he will be surrounded by a circle of friends?

Patro asks what can he expect from YY tomorrow. For some reason I immediately assumed he was going on a date with a lady, Lady YY, but YY could be his granny for all I know, or his cat. However he says he expects a 'minimal gesture' from YY...hmmm well if its his birthday maybe its just a card.


I think at some point tomorrow Patro will be kissed though, possibly whilst hula hoop dancing
though I could be wrong...

but seriously no other hexagram signifies more exchange than 58 IMO. I find it rather bubblingly effusive so I'm not seeing a minimal gesture because 58 is about the opposite of stinginess, meagreness, of any kind


i hope Patro doesn't just get a text message !
 
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Patro asks what can he expect from YY tomorrow. For some reason I immediately assumed he was going on a date with a lady, Lady YY, but YY could be his granny for all I know, or his cat.

Patro has business interests and does designs. Maybe he is introducing a new product.
 

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well.... I thank you for having participated.... Here comes the reckoning.

as expected... just a simple gesture! a short message.

the only difference is that this time... she acted alone... she didn't wait for no one initiative to cover her action. this is not much, it's clear!...
but the way you express something is important... when a relation is castigated by a lots of barriers. this time she brake a new one!

anyway..... the second line 58, is about me and what I want concretely. the fourth line is what I get from others and how I'll live the moment.

described in line 4 is... the inability, it's talking about undecided people, they can't decide between "people<=>noble ideals" or "people<=>frivolous ideals".
related to a gesture... it's indicate a half one... one begin but not completed ;)
and this is what really happened. an half swing of a pendulum!

obviously... than we get involved with hex 3... the thought is linear....
hex 3... I think simply mean to find my/themselves at the beginning of the situation... while we expect to find ourselves half way or at the end of the event.
that's why the question is resolved in a nice "nothing". the gesture doesn't bring a real progress. we/I are still there.

while analizing the trigram we get this images:
lover and upper trigram of 58 stay for mouth and water.... while in 3 lover trigram indicate hand/finger also wood. and the upper trigram indicate ear and water
water has a similar valence like thoughts.
we must consider the nuclear sign given by hex 37... lover trigram eye, upper trigram thigh/arm
considering the lover trigram as the material one and the upper as the spiritual one.

tui-> mouth ---> .........k'an-> ear ......................................sun-> thigh/arm

58.............................3...................................nuclear=> 37

tui-> mouth -> ..........chen-> hand/finger ............................li-> eye

following this way... we will have in the spiritual level - the upper one - delivered(arm and thigh) words that whisper to my ear (water)

following this way... we will have in the material level - the lover one - words spoken out with fingers(written on wood) to read through the eyes.


so... today I asked again: what do I have to expect today from YY? 13->31
this mean that we will get together... just by looking the external image. but also not really... since the first line say something like: to realize a real union we must act in the light. well this is not our case... we can act only unseen.
sixth line say something like: it's just a momentary and exterior union, a kind of union realized under not conventional channels, a real union is missing.
and as always the lovely Yi is right!

than we got the evolution for the "after" in hex 31...indicate a renascence in attraction matter.

Pocossin, you ask about to see a designed article from me... well how can I attach an image in a pm? or give me your email so I can send it directly to you! I can't do it in forum.
 

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