Please help with a general advice question/reading?

[kdedeaux4]

Hi

I did a reading tonight asking the IC, "Please give me some insight or helpful information which would be useful for me through this time?"
I received hexagram 2 unchanging. I've read several posts in here on this hex and have looked around online for additional insight into it as well.... and now I'm really confused!! Amidst a myriad of thoughts and opinions, the only constant I found seems to be that this hex says to remain passive. I'm a pretty passive person in general, so I struggle to think that the message here is to work toward being more so...gosh, I'd be a doormat Also I read much about a spirituality aspect and also sexual energy, but . None of this makes sense to me!?!!

Any insight, thoughts, or ideas are greatly welcomed!:bows:

 

[lucia]

Hiya

Just a thought but your question is incredibly broad - a bit life and the universe and everything else!
Maybe narrowing it's scope might help perhaps into a particular area of your life. What do I need to know about......? work/self development/repeated mistakes or patterns/or whatever then it may be a little easier to relate the answer back to the question.

good luck with it

Lucia

 

[kdedeaux4]

GOSH!!! Gloomy...

Thank you so much for responding Lucia. I'm trying to move through a place of vast changes/confusion/suffering and I'm trying to keep my questions away from the actual issue so I might better focus on what I need to know or learn through this experience. After reading your response I wondered, maybe the IC still recognizes the real issues I'm facing, whether I phrase it about that or not? Who am I trying to fool? So, I took your advice and asked, What would help me to know or understand better through this struggle with my ex? In response, I received hexgram 36, lines 3 and 5 changing to 51. Oh my GOSH... Ouch
I am torn in all kinds of pieces about this and don't seem to be regaining any sense of peace regardless of my meditation and prayer efforts to just let go of it all whatever it is at this point...

 

[lucia]

That's a much better question 'cos it then makes your suffering something you can learn from - and it makes it easier to understand the answers.

I'll have a go but I'm no expert I'm sure others can do better.....

So it's been a bit of a shocking experience and you are wounded.

51 is shock and sudden energy but the ching advises not to let go of the sacrificial spoon and chalice - in other words try and keep your equilibrium

But line 3 offers a clue.. Bradford says that here we see the problem lies within ourselves but in rooting out the problem we should be gentle on ourselves just as we should be in dealing with the faults of others. We can't cure strong emotions and the blindness caused by them overnight but working towards a place of generousity of spirit leads in the right direction.

Line 5 tells you to trust in the unknown.. to trust that it's going to be alright in the future and that your 'brightness' isn't always going to be hiding. So keep your head down, believe in that future, aim for a bit of self-preservation and maintain your dignity - don't seek approval. If necessary maintain a bit of a front in the world just for now until it passes.

And on a non-i ching level (ie more my personal opinion and just a touch of ching answer) while doing the above work find practical things to keep you away from the source of your pain - get into something. It gets better.

But like I said I'm only practising so hopefully you'll get more experienced people to answer later.

hope that helps a little and take it easy...

Lucia

 

[kdedeaux4]

Lucia

Thank you for the insight and your time!!
Your objective mind looked at that response in a FAR better light than my currently very subjected and clouded mind ever could!! I saw only all horrible gloom and doom with even more shocking pain on the way, perhaps even worse than my current place....?!! And you actually found the brighter side!
Thank you so very much:bows:

 

[willowfox]

" What would help me to know or understand better through this struggle with my ex? " hex 36, lines 3 and 5 changing to 51

It suggests that you need to be firm and determined to sort the guy out, once and for all, but it warns to to be cautious in how you actually do it and to realize that you still have a lot of nonsense still to put up with him before you are 100% free.

So to hex 2, which suggests a need to listen to others concerning your problem, find people who can help you get past this situation, and get your thoughts about this situation clear in your head, about what to do and how you are going to do it etc.

 

[kdedeaux4]

Willowfox

Thank you for your help. I fear you are right about this "madness" not being completely finished yet. Not at all what I want to hear or think but I suppose that's why I post my answers regarding this mess; I know I'm struggling to see clearly and be firm and I somehow know I have to force myself to a broader vision through that in order to actually see and accept what's going on and be open to the right path through this time...or else it might never get better!!?!!?
Thank you so very much for sharing your insight:bows:

 

[mary f]

Willowfox's is my vision.

Now Lucia, are you sure you interpreted 36.3.5? It seems to me you are mentioning 51, that is the relating hexagram, not the original one.

Kdedeaux4, I would add that, while being firm and sure of your purposes, your reading warns you not to go into inferior quarreling. The latter wouldn't vanish your value(s).This is an important learning huh?

Cheers.

 

[lucia]

dios mio I'm not sure whether I should dignify this with a reply......

the story of line 3 of HEX 36 is about the capture of the enemy king and his forces. The wise leader (and I've forgotton my king names for now) kills the enemy king but doesn't massacre the enemy kings troops. This is usually viewed as a metaphor for dealing with your own internal problems relating to the question. Hence deal with the fundamental problem but be gentle on yourself as you should be with others faults. Only when you root out the internal are you in a sincere place to deal with the external....

The story of line 5 of HEX 36 is about another king who ends up in the enemy camp and has to pretend he is mad to survive. But he had to believe he would survive or I guess it wouldn't have been worth the effort. This is generally viewed as a metaphor for going along with things with trust that they will eventually work out and while keeping your integrity inside.

The whole of HEX 36 is about brightness hiding either being wounded or generally keeping your head down. HEX 51 is the context or modifier and is generally viewed as shock, or arousal.

But divination isn't a horse race. we don't take bets on who is the winner. The "vision" is ultimately that of the person asking the question because only they have the whole story. That in turn is about how much they are prepared to face themselves as much as it is about any sort of external problem.

Me personally, when I ask for help have been very lucky to have a good range of wise and informed responses which have then enabled me to think some more and arrive at some kind of clarity. That's why I like this forum after 25 years of using the ching alone.

Lucia

 

[kdedeaux4]

Thank you

Mary F., Lucia, and Willowfox,
Thank you!
Mary, you are so right that any quarreling at this point only lowers my own integrity and personal goals. Although it's been difficult at times, I gave that up awhile back in this situation. I choose my "battles" carefully and in this particular situation I can find no more reason to battle at all. It is self defeating on many levels This battle has become merely an internal one -as I intentionally choose not to battle anything, my resulting conflict is with myself...battling myself not to battle, if you will YES, this whole situation has become simply the HUGEST pain/transformational experience I have gone through in life to date....ughhh, I say, UGHHH and unfortunately it's not over yet. Apparently the only thing diminishing is my sanity

Lucia, thank you for the extended story version of this reading! It really adds to my ability to see the bigger picture and gain better overall understanding

 

[mary f]

It doesn't seem your sanity is diminishing.
All this pain will make you grow enormously.