Please help with different lines! 29.1.4 to 58

[petra33]

Dear friends,
I asked about how my situation with a guy is evolving from now.
We are not a couple and we don't speak very much at the moment.
He often avoid me. I don't understand if in some ways I make him unconfident.
I decided to keep the distance, but I honestly miss him. And I am worried about him (coz he has a lot of problems and he is alone to face them).

So, I got 29.1.4 to 58

The first line is really bad. But the 4th is quite good and 58 is not that bad.
But some text says that can be a "romantic triangle" (
Also, i often get this kind of anwers when I ask about us: depression in a way, and little and simple deeds that are becoming really important because they are coming from a sincere heart..

What do you think? I am simply going to find my serenity with or without him?

also, in this cast I have noticed that there are "water on water" that change on "lake on lake":there is a specific meaning on it??

Please, give me some advises..especially if you have experiences on this particular cast.

Thanks a lot and all the best.

 

[dragona]

hi, 29 is (for me) often about emotional overload, caring too much, jump in the situation and needs to swim through it the best way possible, taccling your fears also. 5th line to me speaks about openness, simplicity and sharing as it will lead to more communication of 58..so I would say you are apprehensive, perhaps both are, but simplifying things through open communication may lead to greater things, intimacy.

 

[petra33]

Thanks dragona!
yeas, probably you are right.....
I am trying to be "simple", to make everything easier..But probably the first line says that he feels too ashamed..despite we don't know really much, I know really private things about him. He told me those things ones when he was drunk. It's not my bad. That is why I am so worried for him. I try do forget what I know about his problems, but he doesn't...That is probably what the first line says: he doesn't know how to move on and to see me as a person that genuinely want to know him. He probably feels "naked" in front of me..I don't know....
Maybe I underestimate myself as well. I cannot believe that I can make someone so nervous. But if I am "nothing" for him, why to be so suspiciuos? We have a lot of friends in common that can help the communication, but he still keeps the distance..
I also asked what I am for him, and I got 10 unchanging..probably he is "tempted", but really scared too...He sees every thing in a complex and dangerous way...and he doesn't understand how simple are my desires...
I just would like a possibility...but probably we don't know how...
Do you think I have to wait that he gets more confidet with himself, or to cut him from my life, because he will never be ready?
Again, first line of 29 says that the misfortune is "stable"...IV line says that there is still a way to communicate, or it is too weak to win against the first one?

thanks a lot anyway
if you (or someone else) have other commets, please post )....and all the best.

 

[dragona]

You asked how YOUR situation is evolving and I think Yi is refering to yourself, especially in 29.1. 29.4 I see as an opened communication, Still another idea is suggested. The window is the place through which light enters the room. If in difficult times we want to enlighten someone, we must begin with that which is in itself lucid and proceed quite simply from that point on.
There is a window of opportunity there, yoou have to find a simple way of coming closer, sharing...perhaps you have some hobbies you do together, like sports? Perhaps communication over the phone would help him to open up a bit?
I think emphasis is here not to push and hex 10 is about careful conduct he is displaying towards you:
The situation is really difficult. That which is strongest and that which is weakest are close together. The weak follows behind the strong and worries it. The strong, however, acquiesces and does not hurt the weak, because the contact is in goof humor and harmless. In terms of a human situation, one is handling wild, intractable people. In such a case one's purpose will be achieved if one behaves with decorum. Pleasant manners succeed even with irritable people.
So keeping it casual, light and creating a comfortable atmosphere would lead to levelling things up for both, towards that image of 2 lakes we like so much.

You are not a couple you say...I think he feels he has made a fool out of him when he was drunk, so he is avoiding you...if you show it is not a big deal, just treat that episode casualy, perhaps he will relax arround you. Does he even know how you feel about him or suspecting it? You should keep your feelings under control for now, 29 is about dangerous plunge..do not let yourself get hurt more.
Take it easy, D.

 

[petra33]

25 (all changing lines ) to 46

thanks a lot for your advises dragona..and sorry for the late reply..

he knows I want to know him better...and he started to be "cold" with me..I actually think that he is trying to avoid me or something...maybe he doesn't know how to react with it...

in some ways is a progress, because he stopped to be aggressive...but maybe it's worst for me..
so I decided to keep the distance as well ignoring him...

but now I just met him and I don't really know what I have to think: I went out in a place where I knew he was not (because I am avoiding him), but some friends told him where I was and he came (he told me that)..I honestly don't think he came for me, but he could avoid to go there if he didn't want to see me..

I think we both are not able to manage our feelings..

I also asked if he is going to make any action to get closer to start a relatioship..
and I got 25 (with all changing lines) to 46..

If tomorrow I'm going out, I am sure to meet him (he is working in a place where all my friends are going); therefore I am thinking to stay at home to avoid to hurt myself..
I think he got feelings fo me, but they are difficult to understand..
it's so complicated..

but I am just thinking that I need to move on from this situation because if he's not able to face the situation for any reason (shyness, insecurety, immaturity, diffidence, love, hate etc etc), I should not waste time anymore...
but honestly I don't really want to quit

assuming that 25 is not "active" anymore , is 46 saying that he slowly will start to do something?
do you think that this toss is simply saying that he is not that into me and that's it?

Anybody have any experience with this toss? I never got a toss with all changing lines honestly..

thanks anyway and all the best.

 

[Lavalamp]

what was your question?

29.1
He is in a pit, he feels trapped in a life pattern.

29.4
He "opened the window" showing you this part of himself, and you gave him care in return, you fed him through the opening.

58
You can talk to each other, support and rest in each other, with success and good interaction.

I think he appreciates your acceptance of him despite what he is ashamed of in himself, and when you approach him of course his reaction will be somewhat wary, as if he doesn't like himself, why would you? But I think the reading says you could be good friends, if he understands you aren't there to judge him but that you accept and actually like him and don't want to give up on him just because he feels embarrassed. Perhaps you should tell him this directly.

 

[petra33]

thanks lavalamp!

yeah, your analisys is good..I don't really know if the toss say we can be good friends, but yes, I guess he is souspucious with me because he doesn't like himself that much..
he is doing a lot of stupid things, and I can just watch far from him..

I will try to speak to him, but it's really hard..
I also descovered that he said a lie last time: he didn't know that I was there..that make me really confused: i don't know if he wanted to talk about our common friend or he was just looking for an excuse to talk to me...

To be honest, I don't know if I am ready to be just a friend for him...BUT I also want to be really slow..

by the way, what do you think about my other tosses?....
anyway, maybe the best thing to do is to live my life in the best way and next time I see him, I can try to talk without aggressivity.

Thanks a lot a all the best to every body.