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Trojina

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I received this from a Ukrainian relative today. I have no idea how it works just passing it on. Apparently even if you don't play it and it is open in your browser it attacks Russian propaganda sites.

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"Chatting with the brothers. Alive, still fighting.

Found an article today:
https://www.unian.net/techno/reshae...moch-ukraine-pryamo-iz-brauzera-11722135.html

It's got the game 2084 in it.
https://playforukraine.live/
I think you've seen it at some point, when you play it, the site automatically launches a DDOS attack on Russian propaganda sites.

The DDOS attack happens even when you're not playing the game and the page is just open in your browser.

If you are willing and able to help, open this page on your phone or computer (computer is faster :)

If you want to share this link with your friends. By the way, the article is in Ukrainian, but you can translate it via google-translate.

No Putin - no war!

Peace and hugs from Ukraine! "




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Since the first war on this planet Fortune, I guess, got a role to play. Looser - Winner, she decides what please her, so I've understood it: no good or bad, only game. Game of chance. Whether being Eastern or Western, Southern or Northern: The name of the looser is War. The name of the winner is Love. My opinion here is that Russia should redraw and Ukraine should declare itself neutral and independent. But as long as none of these two necessities for peace is happening I feel solidarity with Trojina.
 

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Ukraine should declare itself neutral and independent.

I don't understand this

Ukraine is independent already.
Russia invaded it.
Russia needs to withdraw.

Nothing at all relies on Ukraine declaring itself independent since it already is independent. That is what it is fighting for, just to keep independence. This idea of declaring itself 'neutral' again I have no clue what you mean? It's not 'neutral' it is it's own country. Presumably by neutral you mean Ukraine should not aim to join NATO or EU. Well neither are forthcoming anyway but if they want to, as a free country they are free to do so.

What you are saying is like 'If Germany invaded Denmark then Denmark should 'declare itself neutral and independent'. That doesn't make sense does it? Denmark does not belong to Germany so it does not need to declare itself independent as it already is independent nor need it call itself 'neutral' since it need not make pacifying statements to superpowers who want to take it over.
My opinion here is that Russia should redraw and Ukraine should declare itself neutral and independent. But as long as none of these two necessities for peace is happening I feel solidarity with Trojina
Well I can't agree with you because you are implying it is 2 equal forces, as if only Ukraine just gave in and let Russia take over there would be peace. That's what you seem to be saying? This is not an equal fight. This is a dictator invading an independent country against the will of even a great deal of his own countrymen.

Do I misunderstand you?


Any solidarity in any case is not with me but with the Ukraine but I'm puzzled as it doesn't seem from what you say you have that because you keep saying they should declare themselves 'neutral' - but then I'm baffled because you don't realise they are independent already and that is what they are fighting to keep.


I mean thank you for your solidarity with me but I am so lost as to what you think is happening between Russia and Ukraine right now. Perhaps you explained in the other thread, maybe you mean 'independent' as in not leaning to western alliance nor Russian alliance but right now they don't have any choice.

Perhaps making promises about neutrality might be a short term and ineffective 'solution' to stop Putin's barbaric reign of terror but long term Ukraine will never accept loss of independence neither will it give up seeking alliance with the west and it has every right to as free country. Putin just isn't going to make any gains here neither for Russia, Ukraine nor anywhere else. He is a mad man.
 
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You missed the point here. Russia doesn't want Nato that close, simple as that. Russia wouldn't have to worry if Ukraine had avoided military forces that close to its borders. They have said that. But that won't allow them to attack Ukraine. Russians are humans too. They may dislike foreign forces that close. That's it. Ukrainians are humans too. They may dislike Russian forces that close. I'm not against Russia and I'm not against Ukraine. In this situation, I'm with Ukraine because it's attacked violently. Since the first war, there have only been losers and when I mention Fortune it's because wars seem to be chance games. "Will I succeed? Great! One piece more, and one more....". I'm not like the Russians and Ukrainians directly involved so You can say, and be right in, that I should keep my solidarity to myself. That I can't deny. It's up to me, not to You. I hope Russia will redraw because the third world war is close enough to me and no one is closer to me than me. STOP
 

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I understand your last post better.
 

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It occurred to me after I went to sleep that I used a wrong word: 'Stop' isn't correct English in the context I meant. 'Break' or 'End' would serve better. Meaning I'm tired and confused. You just go on. I understand Your engagement. Sorry for the tone in my postings.
 

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No problem. I started the thread purely to post the links provided which can bring down Russian propaganda sites and so help the Ukrainian effort in an infinitesimally tiny way. I wasn't intending to launch a discussion, I just want to help them.
 

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The links no longer work but apparently did have an impact.
 

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The links no longer work but apparently did have an impact.
According to their Twitter they're still going and now have an Instagram acct.
https://twitter.com/playforukraine1

I will confess I closed my browser tabs after finding out that participating in DDoS attacks is illegal in the U.S. Maybe "But it's anti-Russia!" is exculpatory? But also could your ISP tell what you're doing and ban you?

It was a fun game, too, added benefit to the satisfying :mischief: feeling.
 
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Oh wait - their Twitter says now it's playforukraine.life, not .live.
 

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Thanks for playing! I didn't play I just had it open in the browser.
 

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It seems to be back up again
 
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veavea

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I tried to play but doesn’t seem to do anything on my iPad? Maybe only works on a pc
 
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veavea

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Actually I would be worried about opening unknown links like this as it might not even be what it claims to be, but I did open it and try to play. I don’t know what it is though and that makes me uneasy.
 
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veavea

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“Since the first war on this planet Fortune, I guess, got a role to play. Looser - Winner, she decides what please her, so I've understood it: no good or bad, only game. Game of chance. Whether being Eastern or Western, Southern or Northern: The name of the looser is War. The name of the winner is Love. My opinion here is that Russia should redraw and Ukraine should declare itself neutral and independent. But as long as none of these two necessities for peace is happening I feel solidarity with Trojina.”

I don’t agree with this and there’s no justification for what Russia has done. None. Whatsoever. Not in any frame of reality, not in any dimension, none. And now that Russia has shown this aggression, more countries will want to join nato. I’m not arguing though, in fact I’m off… last time I came on clarity there was a big row about dragons (!) so there we go….!! Good luck all 🪆
 

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I think you were quoting sernevs but there's no quote marks so it looks like you're saying it yourself. Oh there is now but it's not clear who you are quoting

Actually I would be worried about opening unknown links like this as it might not even be what it claims to be, but I did open it and try to play. I don’t know what it is though and that makes me uneasy.
If there was a problem with it it wouldn't have been sent to me by a Ukrainian relative. I have had it open for a week so have my relatives. It does no harm except hopefully to Russian sites.
 

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