Purging Demons

[nicky_p]

Hello,

I was wondering if I could get some advice please?

There are some past events in my life that have come to the forefront of my mind when I don't really have the right time to deal with them again. It's nothing that is actually directly happening to me at the moment but devlopments on the periferals have the potential to bring me into contact with someone who I don't know if I want to face for one reason or another and I don't know what if anything I should do about it - physically or preparation mentally if that makes sense. One thing I do know is that I'm tired of this being an 'issue' anymore.

I asked the Yi for a general description of my 'demons' and recieved 27.2 - 41

From what I've read in the hex index this seems to be telling me that I'm not living enough in the moment - maybe the Yi is being a little tongue in cheek here with me because it sounds like it's saying 'you know the answer to this!' So maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill?!

I asked for advice on purging these demons and recieved 44.1.6 - 43

I think this is telling me to deal with things as they come up - nip them in the bud and then rise above them. I like the sound of 43 - breakthrough.

I'd really appreciate knowing what other people see.

Thank you
Love
Nicky
xx

 

[bruce]

Hi Nicky,

As I read it:

These demons can be described as parasites, who create in you a sense of dependency on them. In the process they suck life and self confidence from you. They do not shake loose on their own. You must go out to meet them and to take charge over yourself. Demons are cast out by ones own refusal to offer them a place to live: denying them any authority over you or in you. However, it is important to choose wisely the means to accomplish this. If you fight them directly you will likely be wounded in the process. The better means is to hold yourself aloof, detach yourself from them in your mind, letting them to go their own way without your cooperation. It is your right to keep what is yours and to stand for who you are. All you have to do is claim it.

 

[nicky_p]

Hi Bruce,

Thank you. What you say makes a lot of sense and I can see the dependancy. It's like these demons or parasites (I can see that and actually that makes it easier cos they're not as scary as 'demons'!) feed into fear by saying 'if you don't listen to me you'll not be able to cope if something happens' But that's part of the problem - nothing has actually happened at present and I end up spending so much time 'preparing' for something that 'might' happen and not enough time actually enjoying what 'is' happening now.

I think that might be what the danger of taking them on head on - you just get more sucked in and tangled up.

Love
Nicky
xx

 

[bruce]

Hi Nicky,

I believe this is a good example of how or when exercising 44 becomes exorcising. The Prince issues commands, and proclaims them. But, line 6 finds that fighting the demon directly proves too exhausting, and that, understanding penetrates deeper than a horn.

 

[bruce]

But be aware, the demon uses the same trick. Unless they're stupid demons, which many are. But I'd never underestimate a proper demon to rise to the level of my intellect, along with my ascension.

What is it about the seductress which incites a man? It's more than her hair, makeup, cleavage or even her attitude. It's something which stirs up from inside the man. How does she manage to do that? Note the quality of wind.

So, this influence works in both directions. Outsmarting the demon may not always work.

Shall I tell you how I deal with mine? I make friends with them.

 

[nicky_p]

Hi Bruce,

Good plan! After all, some of things they say have got an element of truth otherwise they wouldn't be able to get your attention in the first place. I guess it's just a question of deciding how much attention to give them.

Keep your friends close - keep your enemies closer type of thing.

Love
Nicky
xx

 

[my_key]

Hi Nicky

You might want to get hold of a book "The Voice of Knowledge" by Don Miguel Ruiz. Lots of good reading to back up teh content of Bruce's first post.
There is conflict in teh human mind between truth and what is not truth - Truth and lies. Believing in truth brings goodness, love and happiness. Believing and defending lies brings injustice and suffering in society and teh individual. The parasites / demons spread the lies and the poor old human mind just sucks them in like a vacuum cleaner.
Bruce's tactic of making friend with them is a great way to gain inner truth for him. You may need to paint your picture with different brush strokes.

Peace and love

Mike

 

[bruce]

The Tibetan Book of the Dead also sheds light on the nature of daemons. A reoccurring theme is that, benevolent appearances of gods and malevolent appearences of daemons are each manifestations of our own duality. Running to them or away from them leads to rebirth; along with our daemons.

 

[peace]

Nicky:

I don't agree with the making friends part.
Here's another book suggestion:

People of the Lie, by Scott Peck.

Good luck -
Rosalie

Also - it depends on what you mean by purging.
I always take a psychological look at things....
Yes, 44 seems to tell you some work needs to get done which involves a committed stand and resolution (43).

I'd ask more questions to get clarification on the exact nature of the "demons" and what you're responding to.

With 27.2 - 41, it seems there may be some issues about what you take in that you expect "nourishment" from - because this results from/in decrease (41).

I agree about "nipping them" - but I don't think you want them to come back, so you may have to go deeper.

Rosalie

 

[nicky_p]

hi

Thank you for your suggestions. I would really like to work on looking at each of the books suggested.

Love
Nicky
xx

 

[void]

I had been thinking about 27,2 lately. I noticed karchers view of it was quite different to nearly all others. He seems to say don't follow the usual route to nourishment, you are not or should not follow usual 'rules'. Others all seems to be more negative and say its not desirable you are not seeking nourishment correctly. Maybe there is really no judgememt involved, simply stating/reflecting what you're doing, the Yi seems to do this quite often I find.

I feel in this case maybe theres no real wish to purge these 'demons'. You're living off them, taking sustenance from them. They will cease to be demons when you don't want them for food anymore.

 

[heylise]

It could be that talking about your demons opened a door inside. You said in your first post, it was as if Yi was telling you: "you know the answer to this".
Something similar happened to me, opening something I could not even describe myself, and then all those tears. Streams of them, bringing lots of relief.

So what Bruce said, "making friends", was maybe allowing them to be the subject of your words. Touching them, and by doing so, bringing down an inner wall. There is so much we know, without our consciousness knowing we do. Every time we touch on that huge inner sea, we feel that life has big value.

LiSe

 

[bruce]

From the Lacori myth:

He fought the Firebird for hours with his sword and hammer. But when he and the giant bird both finally wearied from their respective wounds they were reduced to trading insults. Having fought each other to a draw, they sat exhausted, and in time their insults mellowed into banter, and they became friends, for in their fighting they had come to respect each other.