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maria22

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Okie...Simple question for I-ching...
"What are his feelings for ne?"
First Hex would be Hex 46-Pushing Upwards.
Seems like he kinda likes me BUT we are going no-where no matter what?Although we might "grow" together(?) still we go no where?
I don't know thats what I am getting...
And THEN our second hex is "Not knowing"...And I don't even know what I don't know...Wow that is a hard one...So I guess I am in a position of "learning" still?I am the "ignorant"...
That is not good....
 

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Okie...Simple question for I-ching...
"What are his feelings for ne?"
First Hex would be Hex 46-Pushing Upwards.
Seems like he kinda likes me BUT we are going no-where no matter what?Although we might "grow" together(?) still we go no where?
I don't know thats what I am getting...
And THEN our second hex is "Not knowing"...And I don't even know what I don't know...Wow that is a hard one...So I guess I am in a position of "learning" still?I am the "ignorant"...
That is not good....

Yes i think your answer is all about not knowing. with 46.3 here i get a certain sense of 'well here i am what next, whats the point'...with 46.6 'I'm not sure where I'm going or whats happening but i may stay around to see what develops' and as far as I'm concerned hex 4 echoes that.

And that seems fairly realistic in most unestablished relationships. Feelings aren't a 'once and for all ' thing are they, they never remain fixed.

And half the time I don't think people even know what they feel because of this..feelings not being fixed things by their very nature how can it be known with any certainty even by ones own self. Thats probably why so many people ask about others feeling for them here, becuase theres no anchor point with feelings, they dont have their own anchor so look to someone else to provide it...except that persons an unknown too, they're both at sea and always will be as feelings are fluid. Thats why water is always a symbol for feelings in astrology, tarot etc

I'd take this as he doesn't know for sure about how he feels, he goes along with it as it develops, the situation is one of not knowing. Thats not bad its just how things are. I think you have to play it by ear, nothing is fixed here.

I reckon, feelings being so fluid, longer term relationships actually come about through decisions not feelings. A person may sometimes hate her partner but has decided to put the continuity of the relationship above those temporary feelings. Similarly a person may decide a relationship is not viable and leave despite remaining fondness.

In light of that perhaps you might ask instead what decision he is likely to come to about you.....although given this answer he probably hasn't made his mind up.

Bear in mind of course i think so many women here ask what men are thinking because men generally aren't thinking much about the relationship at all, they just kind of 'do it' as it comes
 
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Hi Maria!

Absolutely agree with Trojan on the 'feelings' questions :bows: but I have a slightly more optimistic reading of the lines (46.3,6)

in terms of your post, I wouldn't necessarily see it as "going nowhere no matter what"
Rather, I tend to see it as something moving (46) through the darkness of Ignorance (4) and then the lines

46.3:
All obstructions that generally block progress fall away here. Things proceed
with remarkable ease. Unhesitatingly one follows this road, in order to profit
by one's success. Seen from without, everything seems to be in the best of
order. However, no promise of good fortune is added. It is a question how
long such unobstructed success can last. But it is wise not to yield to such
misgivings, because they only inhibit one's power. Instead, the point is to
profit by the propitiousness of time./QUOTE]

the time is good for the two of you but don't take this for granted for

46.6:
He who pushes upward blindly deludes himself. He knows only advance,
not retreat. But this means exhaustion. In such a case it is important to be
constantly mindful that one must be conscientious and consistent and must
remain so. Only thus does one become free of blind impulse, which is always
harmful./QUOTE]

This is a clear advice on how to avoid the follies of youth, if you be consistent and your feelings are steady there will be progress

from hex.4:
When the spring gushes forth, it does not know at
first where it will go. But its steady flow fills up the deep place blocking its
progress, and success is attained./QUOTE]

By the way, I always like it when I get 46, I find it largely an optimistic hex to get :)
And last, here is a comment Meng made on 46 (and the rest of the thread):

An old business mentor once told me, it's important for a tree to grow wide and deep as well as tall. 46 is mostly about vertical growth, but in order for that to occur in a lasting and stable way (i.e. not blowing over at the first wind storm, or washing away in the first heavy rain), vertical assent must be supported by stretching and digging; the work, in other words. The sweet by and by in the sky grows out of the dirty here and now./QUOTE]

http://www.onlineclarity.co.uk/friends/showthread.php?t=5874

cheers!
rodaki
 

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Yes i think your answer is all about not knowing. with 46.3 here i get a certain sense of 'well here i am what next, whats the point'...with 46.6 'I'm not sure where I'm going or whats happening but i may stay around to see what develops' and as far as I'm concerned hex 4 echoes that.

. Thats why water is always a symbol for feelings in astrology, tarot etc

I'd take this as he doesn't know for sure about how he feels, he goes along with it as it develops, the situation is one of not knowing. Thats not bad its just how things are. I think you have to play it by ear, nothing is fixed here.

I reckon, feelings being so fluid, longer term relationships actually come about through decisions not feelings. A person may sometimes hate her partner but has decided to put the continuity of the relationship above those temporary feelings. Similarly a person may decide a relationship is not viable and leave despite remaining fondness.

In light of that perhaps you might ask instead what decision he is likely to come to about you.....although given this answer he probably hasn't made his mind up.

Bear in mind of course i think so many women here ask what men are thinking because men generally aren't thinking much about the relationship at all, they just kind of 'do it' as it comes

Yes as a Pisces I know that one about feelings...
Anyways-Eh I guess I am gonna have to wait and see how it goes with him...I am not sure with what I feel either...I really don't know either.I guess I am gonna have to wait some more.
 

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